dixit Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 So now that I finally got OSX 10.4.8 installed on my Dell GX270 and working fully with my AGP nVidia GeForce 6200 card with QE/CI I wanted to take a raw image of this before I start attempting to throw anything else on there like the new recent 10.4.10 update package I saw. Acronis was an option, but it really doesnt work the best, as it sees the HD as the entire size and attempts to image that entire HD not just the used space. So for example if I have a 80gig HD for my OSX partition, and after the install it only uses about 6gig, it attempts to image the entire 80gig, and writes an 80gig file with no compression. So its very time consuming, about 2hrs for the image process. Anyone can recommend something better that works quicker? Where it only images the used portion instead of bit by bit the entire HD. Thanks Dixit Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/58699-best-imagingghostcloning-software-to-use/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
rschultz101 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 1. super duper,... 2. carbon copy cloner recommend having extra partitions for backup os,... anybody knows how to add an entry for the startup ?? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/58699-best-imagingghostcloning-software-to-use/#findComment-418769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dixit Posted August 1, 2007 Author Share Posted August 1, 2007 This Super Duper looks pretty good, question cause i couldnt find it on their website, it says its bootable, does it burn the image directly to a DVD or something? Or does it create a bootCD where one can start that and then just pick where the image file is? I gotta look more into Carbon Copy Cloner, looked at that earlier and that seem more complicated to me. Dixit Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/58699-best-imagingghostcloning-software-to-use/#findComment-418801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmkgd Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Acronis (...) sees the HD as the entire size and attempts to image that entire HD not just the used space. So for example if I have a 80gig HD for my OSX partition, and after the install it only uses about 6gig, it attempts to image the entire 80gig, and writes an 80gig file with no compression. If you're talking about Acronis TrueImage, you probably do not use it right. When you say it "attempts to image that entire HD", I guess you meant "partition", and not "HD"; or if you do mean that you have an 80GB disk used wholly for osx, then you might need to image the partition rather than the whole disk. But beforehand, you have to zero out the empty space, using osx diskutility. Then, when you use trueimage using a normal compression in the options, it will more or less compress your 6GB used space to about 3GB, depending on what you've installed. If you don't zero out the empty space, it will be more than that. And for me, it doesn't last more than 30 minutes usually (more than 6gb used). Good luck. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/58699-best-imagingghostcloning-software-to-use/#findComment-418830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dixit Posted August 1, 2007 Author Share Posted August 1, 2007 If you're talking about Acronis TrueImage, you probably do not use it right. When you say it "attempts to image that entire HD", I guess you meant "partition", and not "HD"; or if you do mean that you have an 80GB disk used wholly for osx, then you might need to image the partition rather than the whole disk. But beforehand, you have to zero out the empty space, using osx diskutility. Then, when you use trueimage using a normal compression in the options, it will more or less compress your 6GB used space to about 3GB, depending on what you've installed. If you don't zero out the empty space, it will be more than that. And for me, it doesn't last more than 30 minutes usually (more than 6gb used). Good luck. I think you probably found my problem, never zeroed out the freespace when I installed it, it just did sort of a quick format. Im going to zero out the freespace now and see how it works with Acronis. To clarify, yes my OSX partition is my entire 80gig on this drive. So when I ask Acronis to image it, it does, but even though I only used about 6gigs of the drive by OSX, it wrote a 12gig image file using High compression, which Im sure is because I didnt zero out the free space. That backup took about 60mins, and the restore (which I tested) took about 37mins. Thanks again. Dixit Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/58699-best-imagingghostcloning-software-to-use/#findComment-418839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dixit Posted August 1, 2007 Author Share Posted August 1, 2007 Thanks again cbmkgd, I cleaned out the freespace and my image went from 12.5gig to 2gig only. The image time is about 30mins to backup and about the same for the restore, so thats manageable. Thanks Dixit Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/58699-best-imagingghostcloning-software-to-use/#findComment-418899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmkgd Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 fyi, 'normal' compression is usually quite sufficient, and can take less time; higher compression than that often isn't worth the additional time. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/58699-best-imagingghostcloning-software-to-use/#findComment-418904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danyel Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Hi Dixit: I know it's kinda old but I use Norton Ghost 2003 to make backup of my partitions for work (Windows) and personal use (OSx86). This is how I setup dual-boot systems on desktops and laptops. Right now, I'm using Dell Inspiron 1300 with OSx86 10.4.6 (Full QE/CI Support) along with Windows XP on the same laptop. First, I installed OSx86 using DVD, then I used Ghost to copy Windows image onto the unused partition. --danyel Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/58699-best-imagingghostcloning-software-to-use/#findComment-418909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dixit Posted August 1, 2007 Author Share Posted August 1, 2007 fyi, 'normal' compression is usually quite sufficient, and can take less time; higher compression than that often isn't worth the additional time. Yeap agree there and thats what I used. Dixit Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/58699-best-imagingghostcloning-software-to-use/#findComment-418937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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