Swad Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I just finished reading a great review of Aperture (Apple's new photo workflow app) at Ars. The first and last paragraphs: Apple has cojones. Let's not pretend otherwise. Jumping headfirst into the fully mature digital imaging market requires the shameless bravado of a one-legged man at a butt-kicking contest or any number of contestants on So You Think You Can Dance? What's at risk is not only cold, hard cash, but more importantly, their reputation as a software innovator. Maybe by 2.0 Apple will have the foundation sorted out. At this stage Aperture is a big, expensive misfire and considering the hefty price tag, I can't think of a reason to recommend it. Reading this review, you may think I sound jaded, but I am genuinely angry for those who shelled out US$500 for a program that promised professional results and failed to deliver. Thanks for coming out Aperture, now get off the stage. Ouch! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5405-is-aperture-a-horrible-flop/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
emamg5 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Review is a tad harsh - i think it great for what its trying to do. Improve raw workflow. Its not a photoshop killer or anything - great way to bring in a set of shots, sort them, print out contact sheets for customers, etc. For someone that shoots like hundreds of pics a day in a studio I think its a great way to increase productivity. Am concerned about the RAW import quality that is spoken about in the review though - that should be easily patchable and not something to wait for 2.0 for. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5405-is-aperture-a-horrible-flop/#findComment-34790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakman Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 And there are more reviews that diss Aperture, which is really a bummer, also because I (and everyone) expected so much of this program Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5405-is-aperture-a-horrible-flop/#findComment-34801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrana Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Review is a tad harsh - i think it great for what its trying to do. Improve raw workflow. Its not a photoshop killer or anything - great way to bring in a set of shots, sort them, print out contact sheets for customers, etc. For someone that shoots like hundreds of pics a day in a studio I think its a great way to increase productivity. Am concerned about the RAW import quality that is spoken about in the review though - that should be easily patchable and not something to wait for 2.0 for. You are right, it -is- targetted to someone who needs to go through hundreds of pics a day... Also, it is a 1.0 Apple app. It'll keep getting better, although that review has definite valid points. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5405-is-aperture-a-horrible-flop/#findComment-34914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 Ars follow up review: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/apps/aperture-followup.ars Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5405-is-aperture-a-horrible-flop/#findComment-36483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kday Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I watched all the flash demo movies of Aperture at apple.com. It looks pretty cool with the Core Graphics eye candy and all, and there is a lot of good ideas on organizing photos for digital photographers. For an example, it can analyze photos... and if the photos aer of the same subject, the program will determine that and automatically group them (I'm not sure exactly how this works). To me, Aperture looks like Picasa 2 with a few extra features. While these few extra features look really cool (especially for professional digital photographers), apparently they don't work as they should. I am an amateur photographer and I use iPhoto on my Mac and Picasa 2 on my PC. I like them both, but prefer Picasa 2. I have training in Grapic design, so I know the Adobe products inside and out. I haven't tried Aperture yet, but it looks very appealing to me. I'm sure it will eventually replace my Picasa 2/iPhoto combination. I use Picasa 2 to organize my RAW images, and it works REALLY well. Picasa 2 used to only display 1 color with my RAW images, but the latest release now displays them in full color. iPhoto on the other hand is horrible buggy with RAW images. I was quite surprised to see that Aperture doesn't support the Digital Negative (DNG) format. For the level of software, I would expect this. For now, I will just use the Picasa and iPhoto to organize my images, and Photoshop CS2 for RAW and image adjustments. The new RAW editor in Photoshop CS2 is smooth, easy to use, and a dream to work with. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5405-is-aperture-a-horrible-flop/#findComment-36521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrana Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Aperture is quite a bit more powerful than Picasa.... They both have a similar basic subset of features, but that is about it. I do like Picasa, though. Although, I'll stick to the same process as you with Picasa and then Photoshop. Maybe after 10.4.x and the RAW improvements in OS X I'll give Aperture a try. Don't want to go too OT. But is ACR part of CS2? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5405-is-aperture-a-horrible-flop/#findComment-36527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kday Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Adobe Camera Raw is part of CS2. It contains LOTS of new features that weren't in the previous downloadable plugin. Might want to check it out. Supports DNG too, but since I don't have a camera that supports it, I can't try that out. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5405-is-aperture-a-horrible-flop/#findComment-36670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrana Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Thanks, great info kday. I am getting a Panasonic LX1 soon that has RAW support so I was wondering. Goin to wait on trying Aperture until they update OS X RAW support. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5405-is-aperture-a-horrible-flop/#findComment-36721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrana Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 I did get my LX1, and RAW support is nice. It just sort of sucks that Picasa can't read Panasonic RAW files. Only CS2 can for me on Mac or PC, but maybe I'll give Aperture a go anyway... As for DNG support, Adobe does have a free RAW to DNG converter on their site. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5405-is-aperture-a-horrible-flop/#findComment-38640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pants Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 as a photographer for a newspaper, aperture is next to useless... no cmyk is a big deal... Also, the curves function is essential to me, as is an accurate histogram... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5405-is-aperture-a-horrible-flop/#findComment-38798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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