idioteque Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I saw the Wiki was changed from default 1024 to 1280x1024x32 at the HCL HCL How did this person change the mode ? kind regards Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnFEST Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I saw the Wiki was changed from default 1024 to 1280x1024x32 at the HCL HCL How did this person change the mode ? kind regards <{POST_SNAPBACK}> At boot press a key to show the prompt then type the code below and press enter: -v "Graphics Mode"="1280x1024x32" It should now load in 1280x1024 glory. If someone knows how to make it boot at a higher res than that, I'd be very happy to hear about it Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
idioteque Posted August 19, 2005 Author Share Posted August 19, 2005 thats what i thought and I tried that but that doesnt work for me I have a Geforce 4200 Ti with 64 Mb. the ?video give me all kinds of VESA 3.0 resolutions > 1024. If I choose 1280x1024x32 ot 1600x1200x16 I get the resolution but only at 256 ( 8bit) colors Can anyone help me ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simania_NL Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 thats what i thought and I tried that but that doesnt work for me I have a Geforce 4200 Ti with 64 Mb. the ?video give me all kinds of VESA 3.0 resolutions > 1024. If I choose 1280x1024x32 ot 1600x1200x16 I get the resolution but only at 256 ( 8bit) colors Can anyone help me ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can edit the following file so that you don't have to type all the time: /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.Boot.plist add: <key>Graphics Mode</key> <string>1280x1024x32@70</string> "Means 1280 x 1024 at 32 bit colors at 70 Hz" Change the resoution as you like, be carefull with the Hz! Good luck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
idioteque Posted August 19, 2005 Author Share Posted August 19, 2005 Uhh yes, ok but why does it go into 8bit mode when I specified 16 ?? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
idioteque Posted August 19, 2005 Author Share Posted August 19, 2005 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>Kernel</key> <string>mach_kernel</string> <key>Kernel Flags</key> <string></string> <key>Boot Graphics</key> <string>Yes</string> <key>Graphics Mode</key> <string>1024x768x32</string> <string>1280x1024x32</string> <string>1600x1200x16</string> </dict> </plist> this doesnt do anything with me no extra resolutions or refresh rates at display properties Who knows whats wrong ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonkersaurus Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>Kernel</key> <string>mach_kernel</string> <key>Kernel Flags</key> <string></string> <key>Boot Graphics</key> <string>Yes</string> <key>Graphics Mode</key> <string>1024x768x32</string> <string>1280x1024x32</string> <string>1600x1200x16</string> </dict> </plist> this doesnt do anything with me no extra resolutions or refresh rates at display properties Who knows whats wrong ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> geforce 4 ti cards only work at a maximum of 1024x768 without going to 8 bit colour. well thats in my experience anyway Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 I tried graphic mode = 1280x1024x32 for so many times but it never worked while ?video said it was vesa 3.0 and supported the res. So i forget about it and accepted it would never work. But after installing the 3 patches from maxxuss finally it change the res tot 1280 It seems it needs something more then a supported vidcard btw from al the patches coregraphics wouldnt work, the would. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
idioteque Posted August 19, 2005 Author Share Posted August 19, 2005 I tried graphic mode = 1280x1024x32 for so many times but it never worked while ?video said it was vesa 3.0 and supported the res. So i forget about it and accepted it would never work. But after installing the 3 patches from maxxuss finally it change the res tot 1280 It seems it needs something more then a supported vidcard btw from al the patches coregraphics wouldnt work, the would. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I installed those pathes too, I can run Itunes and Msn PPC now. but still no 1280 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Im doubting now, just it it didnt work but the second time it would. I made a type error (graphic instead of graphics) and maybe it is hit case sensitive. Try again a mistake is easy made. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 After trawling through some forums of graphics issue's not going above 1024x768 I have found that some people who own a mac and use a standard PC monitor have the same issue. They have found that if they cut off the pins that send the signal for the plug and pray component of the monitor it gives them all the resolutions as the os can not work out what type of monitor it is. I have the feeling that this also effects us. If anyone is interested I will check through my history and post up the links... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
idioteque Posted August 20, 2005 Author Share Posted August 20, 2005 Thx for the info, mm that's weird cause I have a 19" Philips that can do 1600x1200@85 HZ. The other option would be to leave the monitor turned off untill Tiger has booted:D or have a boot option or write a kext for this ( except I'm not a big BSD guru ) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
idioteque Posted August 20, 2005 Author Share Posted August 20, 2005 3 solutions to the problem: 1 You may be able to fix the problem by leaving your monitor off until Tiger has finished loading, stopping Plug and Play from detecting the monitor. 2if your monitor supports BNC inputs, try plugging your monitor in using these instead. This will disable the Plug and Play support that seems to be causing the problems. 3 You can try physically removing pin 15 from your D-SUB monitor connector. This will have the same effect as using a BNC cable as this pin is used for Plug and Play support. You will, of course, almost certainly void your monitor's warranty by doing this. The pins on the cable are numbered as following: .....\ 1 2 3 4 5 /..... .....\ 6 7 8 9 10 /.... \ 11 12 13 14 15 / If you don't want to pull apart your monitor's signal cable, get a monitor signal extension cable and take out those pins instead. This may cause degraded 2D display because the longer lead will allow for more interference. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 3 solutions to the problem: 1 You may be able to fix the problem by leaving your monitor off until Tiger has finished loading, stopping Plug and Play from detecting the monitor. 2if your monitor supports BNC inputs, try plugging your monitor in using these instead. This will disable the Plug and Play support that seems to be causing the problems. 3 You can try physically removing pin 15 from your D-SUB monitor connector. This will have the same effect as using a BNC cable as this pin is used for Plug and Play support. You will, of course, almost certainly void your monitor's warranty by doing this. The pins on the cable are numbered as following: .....\ 1 2 3 4 5 /..... .....\ 6 7 8 9 10 /.... \ 11 12 13 14 15 / If you don't want to pull apart your monitor's signal cable, get a monitor signal extension cable and take out those pins instead. This may cause degraded 2D display because the longer lead will allow for more interference. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah thats what I was getting at ... nice work! BTW does the disconnection of the monitor really work? Have not needed to reboot in over a week! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
idioteque Posted August 20, 2005 Author Share Posted August 20, 2005 Yeah thats what I was getting at ... nice work!BTW does the disconnection of the monitor really work? Have not needed to reboot in over a week! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> mm not for me, the crashing i mean. Various apps keep crashing, not able to quit or force quit them. grap, system profiler, msn messenge, to name a few. got a SSE2 machine using the SSE3 patches. gonna check the monistors stuff later Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-3967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphxks Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Im doubting now, just it it didnt work but the second time it would. I made a type error (graphic instead of graphics) and maybe it is hit case sensitive. Try again a mistake is easy made. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My experience was that "Graphics Mode" is indeed case sensitive, the first letter of each word has to be upper case. Cheers! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-4386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enb14 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 I got a 6800GT with a intel D915PCY so it is vesa 3 but I can't go further than 1280x1024x32@60 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-4421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevir Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 I have a gf4 ti-4200 (64mb) in my laptop - and I am forced into 16-bit color at 1280x1024, so not too bad. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-4503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
idioteque Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 not turning on the monitor has no effect Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-4814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 not turning on the monitor has no effect <{POST_SNAPBACK}> here also not Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-4849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
idioteque Posted August 21, 2005 Author Share Posted August 21, 2005 So the big question remains, Why when VESA 3.0 is met, the resolution will not change ? Is it a kext or something else? perhaps a test with a Mac Geforce in a PC and then a boot so see if it works. It willproblable not work in the txt part, but as soon as the GUI is loaded, one should get an image ??? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-4880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
juneyong Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 i have a GeforceFx5200 on my computer. OS X runs in 1024x768. i go upto 1280x1024 @60hz by passing "Graphics Mode"="1280x1024x32@60" during boot process,but its not run. how could OS X runs in 1280x1024? Display: Type: VGA-Compatible Controller Bus: PCI Vendor: nVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID: 0x0322 Revision ID: 0x00a1 Kernel Extension Info: No Kext Loaded Displays: Resolution: 1024 x 768 Depth: 32-bit Color Core Image: Not Supported Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Not Supported Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-5763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I have a geforce 6600gt pcix card that is working very nicely in 1280x1024... All i did was mod the com.apple.boot (not the right file name but you get the drift) and add the lines Graphics Mode 1280x1024x32 There is a thread somewhere on here that tells you what to do. In my case if i ever put the @60 or @75 after the graphics mode my pc would crack it on next boot. If this ever happens to you just manually type in the graphics mode option at darwin boot. ie: "Graphics Mode"="1280x1024x32" and hit enter... it should work fine then Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-5779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
juneyong Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 thx sanfu! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-5854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmen Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 In my situation... Neither "Graphics Mode"="1280x1024x32" nor editing in the /Library/Preferences/... works for my Ti-4200 card... If I edit the com.Apple.Boot.plist file, it will boot into 1280 x 1024 x 8 only... but then if I boot up and type ?video, it does show up 1280 x 1024 x 16... But by typing into "Graphics Mode"="1280x1024x16", it will still boot up with mono color... Any help here? 1240x800 is too Big for me... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/516-nvidia-ti4200-1280x1024x32-how/#findComment-13159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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