systimax Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I have tried all to ghost the drive so in case i mess something up i can just slip in a second hard drive. Is there a trick im missing. On superDuper there is a check box that says make disk bootable and it still wont boot. I havnt had luck with superduper either. As a second Qustion is there a prog that acts like ghost where it will image the drive to a file? And not just do drive to drive copy? thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/45424-superdupercarboncopy-on-osx86/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmatose Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I have tried all to ghost the drive so in case i mess something up i can just slip in a second hard drive. Is there a trick im missing. On superDuper there is a check box that says make disk bootable and it still wont boot. I havnt had luck with superduper either. As a second Qustion is there a prog that acts like ghost where it will image the drive to a file? And not just do drive to drive copy? thanks Norton Ghost. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/45424-superdupercarboncopy-on-osx86/#findComment-325000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecker Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Read the SuperDuper tutorial. It is really easy to understand once you read about the different possiblities. You can either: -create a sparse image, which you can use to recover your system via diskutils from the boot DVD. -create a full backup of your drive on another partition or drive. The fact that SuperDuper makes the partition/drive "bootable" does not mean that you can boot from it. This must be defined in your bootmanger, whatever that may be. If you made a full copy onto a second hard drive, you will still have to setup an MBR so you can boot from there. This can be done withing OSX with fdisk. hecker Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/45424-superdupercarboncopy-on-osx86/#findComment-325041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Baron Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 -create a sparse image, which you can use to recover your system via diskutils from the boot DVD. There's a problem with that. If you search around you'll find that DiskUtil on the DVD is not fully functional (it's an Apple mistake), meaning it won't let you image a drive from it. The DiskUtil that gets installed works perfectly so you have to use f8 on boot, then type mach_kernel rdisk=diskXsX where diskXsX is your bootable backup disk/partition. You can then boot up, and use SuperDuper to copy everything back to your primary OS X partition. hth, The Baron Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/45424-superdupercarboncopy-on-osx86/#findComment-325043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecker Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 (edited) There's a problem with that. If you search around you'll find that DiskUtil on the DVD is not fully functional (it's an Apple mistake), meaning it won't let you image a drive from it. The DiskUtil that gets installed works perfectly so you have to use f8 on boot, then type mach_kernel rdisk=diskXsX where diskXsX is your bootable backup disk/partition. You can then boot up, and use SuperDuper to copy everything back to your primary OS X partition. Thank's for the update, Baron. I was not aware of such a problem. I personally have several images of my system plus an extra partition that I always keep up-to-date as a last resort. It's the fastest and easiest way to recover a broken system. hecker Edited March 16, 2007 by hecker Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/45424-superdupercarboncopy-on-osx86/#findComment-325053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Baron Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 The problem is with the drag'n'drop of images, I did a few backup recovery attempts and coundn't get it to work at all. There is an Apple bug report here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303694 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/45424-superdupercarboncopy-on-osx86/#findComment-325065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecker Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 (edited) The problem is with the drag'n'drop of images, I did a few backup recovery attempts and coundn't get it to work at all. There is an Apple bug report here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303694 Wow, I consider this a serious bug. I wonder why they haven't fixed it yet. Not everyone has "spare" macs just lying around to recover from, *chuckle*. hecker Edited March 16, 2007 by hecker Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/45424-superdupercarboncopy-on-osx86/#findComment-325082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
systimax Posted March 16, 2007 Author Share Posted March 16, 2007 So Symantec Ghost and Acronis true image work with Mac and Os X? I didnt relize that had hfs support Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/45424-superdupercarboncopy-on-osx86/#findComment-325228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VooD Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I just use norton ghost in raw mode copy. But in that mode unless you previously zeroed your drive your backup will be VERY large, as few compression is possible. On the contrary if you start with a zeroed drive (completly full with 00 00 00 00) the Norton Ghost compression will be huge, and a installed system won´t be any larger than a 1.5gb .gho file. The problem you still have to write the entire disk when you want to restore using that image....very slow process unless you keep your system disk in a ~10 gb partition and the rest of applications in an different one. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/45424-superdupercarboncopy-on-osx86/#findComment-325242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecker Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Maybe you should consider creating a dedicated partition for backing up purposes, bro. It has the advantage that you can boot from it directly. hecker Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/45424-superdupercarboncopy-on-osx86/#findComment-325249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLucster Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 The DiskUtil that gets installed works perfectly so you have to use f8 on boot, then type mach_kernel rdisk=diskXsX where diskXsX is your bootable backup disk/partition. For some reason passing rdisk didn't work, I had to use mach_kernel rd=diskXsX. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/45424-superdupercarboncopy-on-osx86/#findComment-419736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asesino de la ilusion Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I use Acronis true image to clone OSX iPC for one disk to another of more capacity. it work perfect. I try with super duper and copy cloner, but i cant boot without dvd. i try all the methods to boot without it. But is more easy to clone with acronis true image, you can have it using hiren boot 9.7. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/45424-superdupercarboncopy-on-osx86/#findComment-1206115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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