SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 11, 2025 Author Share Posted April 11, 2025 (edited) I feel like everyone is trying to get me to use their favorite bootloader, and I'd like to say that I'm taking the chameleon bootloader idea seriously (old software usually runs better on this computer, for some reason), now where can I find chameleon tutorials that don't have dead links? edit: and also preferably make sense? Edited April 11, 2025 by SevenTheAppleKitty Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted April 11, 2025 Share Posted April 11, 2025 On 3/20/2025 at 8:31 PM, Slice said: My computer #4 in the signature is still useful no matter what dortania may say. 4. GA 965P-S1, E6300 Conroe, Radeon HD5570, ALC888, OS⌘ 10.11.6 (15G22010), Clover 4928. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 11, 2025 Author Share Posted April 11, 2025 is anyone going to actually help me with chameleon or are they just going to ask me to use clover/opencore/whatever complicated modern bootloader they want me to use Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 11, 2025 Author Share Posted April 11, 2025 11 minutes ago, verdazil said: With Chameleon you will not be able to install and use systems newer than macOS Yosemite (10.10). This is a very old system that does not support modern hardware and software. ...So, exactly what I was hoping for? This is old hardware (and I'm insistent on trying to run (Mountain) lion) so the bootloader should be perfect in this case? Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeveedee Posted April 11, 2025 Share Posted April 11, 2025 9 hours ago, SevenTheAppleKitty said: I feel like everyone is trying to get me to use their favorite bootloader... No. You're asking questions of people who created their hackintosh solutions before there were manuals. There is more information about hacking available now than at any other time in history - it's all there for you to find. You started this thread with the title "How do I start hackintoshing?" but it doesn't seem to me that you want advice or are open to other opinions. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLVNUB Posted April 11, 2025 Share Posted April 11, 2025 I've NOT Read Thru The Thread Just Skimmed It, I'd Be Inclined to use one of the distro's As That Is Usually Guaranteed To Install here try this https://archive.org/details/iatkosv2 Install Snow Leopard ( I love The Spotted Cat ) it's a starting point, never used that distro it should give you a bootable system ( I Think ) After You Install It. If You Don't Have A DVD Writer, No Problem Use Disk Utility To Transfer The Iso Image To USB Good Luck Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 12, 2025 Author Share Posted April 12, 2025 12 hours ago, STLVNUB said: I've NOT Read Thru The Thread Just Skimmed It, I'd Be Inclined to use one of the distro's As That Is Usually Guaranteed To Install here try this https://archive.org/details/iatkosv2 Install Snow Leopard ( I love The Spotted Cat ) it's a starting point, never used that distro it should give you a bootable system ( I Think ) After You Install It. If You Don't Have A DVD Writer, No Problem Use Disk Utility To Transfer The Iso Image To USB Good Luck The info about the distros not working are in a different thread, so you wouldn't have seen this anyway, but I HAVE tried iATkOS before, and it froze on startup, like every other distro... won't hurt trying again though! 18 hours ago, deeveedee said: No. You're asking questions of people who created their hackintosh solutions before there were manuals. There is more information about hacking available now than at any other time in history - it's all there for you to find. You started this thread with the title "How do I start hackintoshing?" but it doesn't seem to me that you want advice or are open to other opinions. Eh, fair enough. it still felt like everyone was ignoring me entirely though :v Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 12, 2025 Author Share Posted April 12, 2025 14 hours ago, STLVNUB said: I'd Be Inclined to use one of the distro's As Tried to use the distros again (My laptop doesn't see distro's boot disks as bootable, so I boot them with ventoy), and both iDeneb 1.3 and the iATKOS version you suggested simply "Still waiting for root device"d 10 minutes ago, eSaF said: Not to appear dismissive or flippant to your requests but personally I have forgotten how to install old MacOS on Legacy machines although my first successful install was with S/Leopard with Chameleon. Lel. I can sort of relate on just outright forgetting how to do something tech related. 12 minutes ago, eSaF said: BTW my first attempts of installing and running S/L all those years ago were fraught with more reinstalls and more crashes than Ayrton Senna, it was a steep learning curve. Basically how all tech misadventures work with this laptop! (I'm still internally wondering how i could install windows 10, despite it being basically impossible and pretty useless to do so :P) Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 12, 2025 Author Share Posted April 12, 2025 15 minutes ago, eSaF said: I don't think anyone here is aiming to discourage you but trying to offer valid info so that you will make a viable decision the best way forward. At the end of the day all I wish is good luck and hope a good ending. once again, fair enough. I'd still prefer to use chameleon, just for making this laptop truly era accurate, but if it runs OS X, it's still a hackintosh regardless of the bootloader! Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Hosehead Posted April 12, 2025 Share Posted April 12, 2025 6 hours ago, SevenTheAppleKitty said: wondering how i could install windows 10 I recently put Windows 10 on an old laptop that had Windows 7 by using an install DVD. It makes me appreciate MacOS but if you want games, well.... Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 12, 2025 Author Share Posted April 12, 2025 32 minutes ago, Mac Hosehead said: I recently put Windows 10 on an old laptop that had Windows 7 by using an install DVD. It makes me appreciate MacOS but if you want games, well.... Bit offtopic, but I have tried that, but it just bluescreens on boot. (my hypothesis is from driver issues?) windows 8 (not even 8.1!) is the newest that this system can take without causing the installer to immediately BSOD. when I said "wondering how", I was more saying wondering how I can force it to install Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 13, 2025 Author Share Posted April 13, 2025 (edited) How do I check what version of the install media do I have? I'm trying to apply patches but there are different versions for the updates that the OS got Might just try the 10.8.0 version :v for the sake of thread continuity, I asked about an issue causing a crash from "Still waiting for root device" here. Edited April 14, 2025 by SevenTheAppleKitty Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaneee Posted April 14, 2025 Share Posted April 14, 2025 If you're booting an installer via USB then "still waiting for root device" is the USB... If it's USB3 this can generally be fixed with GenericUSBXHCI.kext 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 14, 2025 Author Share Posted April 14, 2025 Just now, Shaneee said: If you're booting an installer via USB then "still waiting for root device" is the USB... If it's USB3 this can generally be fixed with GenericUSBXHCI.kext Seems like iATKOS doesn't have this preincluded, but i managed to get past the issue by just actually following the guide. ....it now kernel panics instead additional note: I just booted it for another time to write down the KP... and it booted to the installer correctly? what the scallop? So... er... Does anybody happen to know where the iATKOS welcome music is stored? I don't want to get jumpscared by turkish jazz if the audio kexts are working correctly Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 14, 2025 Author Share Posted April 14, 2025 Update: Turns out the problem didn't magically fix itself, the installer is just unpredictably unstable. I'm able to randomly get kernel panics during startup, or while the computer is already running, and it's never the same Yeah, I'd rather something that KPs predictably, not when It just feels like it Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 15, 2025 Author Share Posted April 15, 2025 I made a iATKOS Lion USB and it hasn't kernel paniced, currently installing, will check which components are working (Hopefully the Nvidia driver support so i can plug in another monitor) Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 15, 2025 Author Share Posted April 15, 2025 Update: It kernel panics on startup, but loads just fine in safe mode (aka -v -f -x), assuming safe mode didn't disable the related drivers, audio and the external display ports don't work. Haven't tested ethernet but i doubt it works Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 15, 2025 Author Share Posted April 15, 2025 While it boots just fine with -x alone, I'd still like to see if the drivers I selected during install (If I didn't know which one would be the best fit, I'd just guess) Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
larsane Posted April 15, 2025 Share Posted April 15, 2025 "Hey Mac, I get what you mean about the challenges of running macOS on older hardware. It's a tricky process! I’ve heard good things about Sierra and High Sierra, too. They seem to have better compatibility with older systems. If you have any tips for getting installed DVDs to work smoothly, I’d love to hear them! Good luck with your Hackintosh journey!" Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaneee Posted April 15, 2025 Share Posted April 15, 2025 What is the kernel panic? We can't help diagnose it without knowing what's causing it. Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 15, 2025 Author Share Posted April 15, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, Shaneee said: What is the kernel panic? We can't help diagnose it without knowing what's causing it. the panic itself has way too much registers for me to type (I have to type it all since the screen is way too dim for my camera to pick up), so I'll just go from when the debugger gets called ("error: failed to open PCI device" happens before the kernel panic, but I doubt it's related) Spoiler Debugger called: <panic> Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address 0xffffff807fecbb00 : 0xffffff8000220702 0xffffff807fecbb80 : 0xffffff80002c266d 0xffffff807fecbd20 : 0xffffff80002d7a1d 0xffffff807fecbd40 : 0xffffff80002b3777 0xffffff807fecbe40 : 0xffffff7f81258baa 0xffffff807fecbe60 : 0xffffff7f8125a807 0xffffff807fecbeb0 : 0xffffff8000627068 0xffffff807fecbf30 : 0xffffff8000627389 0xffffff807fecbf70 : 0xffffff8000625f6f 0xffffff807fecbfb0 : 0xffffff8000820057 Kernel Extensions in backtrace: org.voodoo.driver.VoodooHDA(2.7.3)[E5C6E3AE-FEC6-33D5-B526-5706F1C442CB]@0xffffff7f81257000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily(1.8.3fc11)[1CDD779E-DB25-3983-83EE-37357B7EFB78]@0xffffff7f8122d000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6.7)[6D54F06A-46B7-37FC-AF22-DE68DC18A1A3]@0xffffff7f80735000 BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task Boot args: boot-uuid=1BBEFE63-BE63-35B5-9A51-05AE3881147C rd=*uuid Mac OS version: 11C74 Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 11.2.0: Tue Aug 9 20:54:00 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1699.24.8-1/RELEASE_X86_64 Kernel UUID: 59275DFA-10C0-30B3-9E26-F7B5DFB1A432 System model name: MacPro3,1 (Mac-F42C88C8) System uptime in nanoseconds: 27115673411 I'm no mac scientist, but it looks like OS X doesn't like one of the audio drivers. Edited April 15, 2025 by SevenTheAppleKitty Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaneee Posted April 15, 2025 Share Posted April 15, 2025 The issue is VoodooHDA. Remove that for now. Also you don't need to report your post for it to get approved. It'll be approved when a moderator sees it. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 15, 2025 Author Share Posted April 15, 2025 6 minutes ago, Shaneee said: Also you don't need to report your post for it to get approved. It'll be approved when a moderator sees it. Sorry, I'm quite impatient. Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 15, 2025 Author Share Posted April 15, 2025 (edited) on another note, how would i remove the unruly kext? I can't find the extensions folder on the hard drive edit: disregard, didn't look far enough Edited April 15, 2025 by SevenTheAppleKitty Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenTheAppleKitty Posted April 15, 2025 Author Share Posted April 15, 2025 I removed the voodoo audio KExt, and it happily boots now! granted the only additional functionality is it recognising my USB headphones and playing audio through it, it still doesn't detect my external display and it still doesn't connect to the internet Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/360792-how-do-i-start-hackintoshing/page/2/#findComment-2831592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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