mek21 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Governments have been secretly tracking the app activity of an unknown number of people using Apple and Google smartphones, US Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) revealed today. Data transmitted to Google and Apple includes metadata "detailing which app received a notification and when, as well as the phone and associated Apple or Google account to which that notification was intended to be delivered," Wyden wrote. Sometimes data shared may include "unencrypted content, which could range from backend directives for the app to the actual text displayed to a user in an app notification," Wyden warned. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/12/apple-admits-to-secretly-giving-governments-push-notification-data/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcaneRhapsody Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Well, there's nothing new about that. I've always known that all the big tech companies work with the government. It would be strange if they just decided not to use such a convenient surveillance tool. Is it good or bad? IDK really. Depends on how they use the data. Hope they don't get too much of it. However, I don't really know how to control the data they are able to get from my devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhys216 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Clearly bad. Gov. using big tech to subvert constitutional restraints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spakk Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 12/7/2023 at 5:50 PM, mek21 said: Governments have been secretly tracking the app activity of an unknown number of people using Apple and Google smartphones, US Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) revealed today. Data transmitted to Google and Apple includes metadata "detailing which app received a notification and when, as well as the phone and associated Apple or Google account to which that notification was intended to be delivered," Wyden wrote. Sometimes data shared may include "unencrypted content, which could range from backend directives for the app to the actual text displayed to a user in an app notification," Wyden warned. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/12/apple-admits-to-secretly-giving-governments-push-notification-data/ What you are writing here has been known to us for a very long time. There is an older article here: https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-nsa-uses-powerful-toolbox-in-effort-to-spy-on-global-networks-a-940969.html https://www.diepresse.com/1449768/nsa-mitlesen-durch-die-hintertuer (article in german language), but there are also older articles. The fact is that all US companies are obligated to ensure that any hardware or software manufactured or programmed by US companies can only leave the US continent if they maintain a backdoor for the US intelligence services. Otherwise, they won't receive government clearance to export or sell their products abroad. You can now imagine the reasons for their worldwide presence around the clock to tyrannize and terrorize all countries on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mek21 Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 On 1/17/2024 at 10:37 PM, spakk said: What you are writing here has been known to us for a very long time. There is an older article here: https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-nsa-uses-powerful-toolbox-in-effort-to-spy-on-global-networks-a-940969.html https://www.diepresse.com/1449768/nsa-mitlesen-durch-die-hintertuer (article in german language), but there are also older articles. The fact is that all US companies are obligated to ensure that any hardware or software manufactured or programmed by US companies can only leave the US continent if they maintain a backdoor for the US intelligence services. Otherwise, they won't receive government clearance to export or sell their products abroad. You can now imagine the reasons for their worldwide presence around the clock to tyrannize and terrorize all countries on earth. This would not preclude any company truly interested in privacy from developing an independent offshore company to avoid US restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spakk Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/23/2024 at 5:40 PM, mek21 said: This would not preclude any company truly interested in privacy from developing an independent offshore company to avoid US restrictions. What I wrote above was expressed by the US intelligence agency at some point; it does not originate from me. Unfortunately, the harsh reality doesn't always appear as colorful as one might like to imagine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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