[How-to] Vista + OSX native dual boot on a PC w/ Vista multi-boot method by cbmkgd

[CLiDE FTW!!1]

I've installed OSX/Vista [RTM] with success using cbmkgd's method. Thanks guys!

[souljah119]

I've read through a lot of this thread and haven't really seen anyone else having this problem.

This may seem stupid.

But, after burning the JaS ISO that I downloaded to DVD, the DVD is unreadable and shows up as a blank disc when I insert it back into the drive.

I tried to boot with this cd, but it doesn't boot, just goes on loading windows as if nothing is in the drive.

 

I'm assuming the ISO is possibly corrupted or something? I'm not sure.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[cbmkgd]

This isn't really a thread about such problems.

 

Anyways... burn at low speed, on dvd-r or dvd+r (not dvd rw).

If any more problems, ask in osx installation thread or wherever appropriate.

Edited December 15, 2006 by cbmkgd

[kama]

hi friends..

 

i have windows XP and vista RC1 in my p4 system. ( 3.4GHz, 512 MB RAM ,SSE2,SSE3 supported )

 

now the normal vista bootloader loads my xp and vista.

 

i like to install mac 10.4.6 JAS in my system.

 

can u please tell how to do that.

 

as far as i understand from this post is :

 

1) downloading Acronis software and make one new boot loader ( OS selector ). then activate the vista and xp in that boot loader

 

2) create a empty partition for 10-15GB ( make it as FAT32 Primary )

 

3) install MAC OS in that empty partition ( make it as MAC OS XXXXX partition - while installing )

 

after this i have a doubt.. after installing this mac the system shows the same bootloader ( which contains xp and vista ) ???????

 

if yes.. then i have to make that MAC OS partition as primary.. then add this to OS selector

 

so.. now i have three OS in my boot loader ?

 

can u please guide

 

thx.. and eagerly expecting the replies

 

bye..

 

kamaraj

[dilnalomo]

if you want to boot vista+ osx only you can follow the steps i wrote in the first post, but if you want to boot xp+ vista + osx, you can try cbmkgd's steps. which one you wanna do?

[DRKRONNIN]

Moved from the osx + xp dual boot guide:

 

Im having no luck, As I said before I installed vista perfectly and followed all the direction to the letter but when I boot from the Osx86 dvd it goes to the gray screen and tells me to restart the computer. Has anyone else had this experience? Im having no luck I looked at the wiki again and someone did have success with my mobo with a prepatched 10.4.5 dvd I guess ill take a shot at it. When I get home ill test the 10.4.6 goatsecx dvd the jas 10.4.6 reseed has given me no luck. Could there be something in my bios that could be causing this hang up? Ill do a little more research (Dont want to give up) and get back to you guys.

 

UPDATE:

 

Hey I think I may have found the solution to my problem, I just read that I need to disable all usb ports on my comp in bios to make osx86 boot. If not Ill get the message that I have been recieving, Ill try this later tonight (Unfortunately I wont be able to test this until after 10PM) If this works Ill let you guys know and maybe help another eMachiner install without the headache. Okay here we go (Fingers Crossed)

FINAL UPDATE!!!!!!!

 

woooohooooooo oh ya oh ya

I disabled the usb in my bios settings and booted the osx dvd and IT WORKED!!! first I tried 10.4.8 and it hung so I rebooted and put in the 10.4.6 goatsecx dvd and it booted perfectly. Everything works fine I have no problems at all. It recognizes my onboard sound and video and my ethernet connection is fully functional.

 

My specs

Emachine T3508

 

CPU: Intel® Celeron® D Processor 356

(3.33GHz, 533MHz FSB, 512KB L2 cache)

 

Chipset: ATI Radeon® Xpress 200

 

Memory: 512MB DDR (1 × 512MB) 400MHz (PC3200)

 

Hard Drive: 160GB (7200rpm, 2MB cache)

 

Optical Drives: 16x multiformat dual-layer DVD±RW (liteon)

 

Write max: 16x DVD±R, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD+RW, 4x DVD+R DL, 40x CD-R, 24x CD-RW

Read max: 16x DVD-ROM, 40x CD-ROM

 

Media Reader: 9-in-1 Digital Media Manager™ (Memory Stick®, Memory Stick Pro®, MultiMediaCard™, Secure Digital™, CompactFlash®, MicroDrive, SmartMedia, xD-Picture Card™, USB 2.0)

 

Video: ATI Radeon® X300-based integrated graphics

Up to 128MB of shared video memory

 

PCI-Express® (PCI-E x16) slot available

 

Sound: 6-channel (5.1) high-definition audio

 

Network: 10/100Mbps integrated Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 port)

Modem: 56K ITU v.92-ready fax/modem (RJ-11 port)

 

Peripherals: Standard multifunction keyboard, 2-button wheel mouse, amplified stereo speakers (USB powered)

 

Ports/Other: 5 USB 2.0 (1 in front, 4 in back), VGA external connector, serial port, parallel port, 2 PS/2 ports (keyboard and mouse), 5 audio ports (2 in front, 3 in back)

 

Hey dilnalomo time to update that success counter

 

BTW I have a suggestion to avoid further confusion from eMachine users in the future would you mind putting a not inside your tutorial that instructs them to disable all USB ports or the dvd wont boot. For eMachines you press F8 to get into the boot menu and F2 for bios.

 

In Bios

Advandced->USB->DISABLE->EXIT SAVING CHANGES

 

I would like to than you soo much for writting the guide everything was exactly as stated

[borisbadenov]

I have looked at several guides to help me install Vista alongside an existing install of XP and OSX using Acronis as my booter yet with each guide, none of them quite gave me the results I am looking for. I want to see all three OS'es listed in Acronis and boot from my selection. Here is what I did to achieve my goal.

 

I am basing my install here with having Acronis OS Selector already working, detecting my XP and OSX installs. To follow my guide, you will need to get this far on your own. You will also need a Linux Live CD, Knoppix ( http://www.knoppix.org/ ) is very good but any with a terminal will do. YOu will also need to have an empty drive/partition on your hard drive to install Vista.

 

1. In XP, run Acronis OS Selector and deactivate Acronis OS Selector (AOSS) leaving XP as the default OS to boot into and reboot. After rebootinginto XP, start Acronis Disk Director's Suite (ADDS), choose your XP drive, right click on it, select "explore" and then "hide". This will hide your XP drive and prevent Vista from incorportating it into it's boot menu If you do not do this, later, Acronis will show you a new Windows OS option and if you boot into that, nothing will happen and if you boot into your original, it will take you to the Vista bootloader where you would have to select XP or Vista, adding an extra step and we are here to let Acronis do it all for us. Follow this guide and you will be able to select both OS's from Acronis later. Then right click on the drive intended for your new Vista install and make that partition active. Close ADDS, and in your disk drive, place your XP Install disk and reboot.

 

2. When computer boots, you will want to boot into the XP Install disk (hit the apropriate "F" key or select this option in BIOS), select the option to install XP, format the partion you will want to install Vista on and when it asks you to format your partition, choose NTFS (quick). After a quick format, it will copy XP files to your partition.

 

3. This is important. Once the XP installer has finished copying files onto your drive, it will restart your computer. As it shuts down, you MUST boot into BIOS. Change your date to read 12-31-2099. We will reset this at the end but this gets us around the 30 day limitation of Vista. Also, replace the XP Install disk with that of Vista and let your computer boot from this disk now.

 

4. When the Vista installer loads up, install Vista on the partition that you just formatted with the XP installer and had files copied onto. When you choose this partition, the Vista installer will have a pop-up that says old windows files will be copied to the "window.old" folder. That is good; click OK and continue the install.

 

5. During the install, Vista will reboot several times and this will take a while to install Vista

 

6. After Vista is installed, go to Control_Panel >> User Accounts>> turn off User Account Control (for now)

 

7. Remove the Vista install disk, replace it with the Linux Live-CD and reboot into it.

 

8. In Linux, fire up a terminal, go to root, (in knoppix just type in su ) then you need to deactivate the vista partition and reactivate XP partition.

So, type "fdisk /dev/sda" (substituting sda for your drive, if ata, most likely hda) (and all commands without quotes)

type "p" to list the partitions and note that the active (vista) partition will have an asterix next to it

then type "a" to change the activation followed by the number of your vista partition. This will deactivate the vista drive

Type "a" again, followed by the partition number of your XP drive, this will now activate your XP install again so we can boot back into it.

 

9. Once back inside XP, start up Aconis Disk Director Suite, unhide your XP install. Then, on the new Vista drive, right click >> Explore. In the pop-up window click the little "+" to reveal the partition's directories.

 

10. Scroll to find "boot.ini.saved"; right click it to rename it, remove the ".saved" part so it is now just "boot.ini" and close the window, saving the changes.

 

11. Exit ADDS and fire up Aconis OS Selector. Now your OS Selector should see all three systems listed but it will list Vista as XP but this is easy enough to rename, just right click it to rename it anything you want.

 

12. You will need to reboot your system one more time and boot right into BIOS. You need to reset your date to the present and now your Vista install will be good for 92 years, enough time for Microsoft to get it right. And when you go back into Vista, you can safely reset the user accounts to "On" if you wish.

 

13. Enjoy. I hope this helps.

[cbmkgd]

In how many threads have you spammed this tutorial?

 

Anyways... just a comment about the points below:

 

2. When computer boots, you will want to boot into the XP Install disk (hit the apropriate "F" key or select this option in BIOS), select the option to install XP, format the partion you will want to install Vista on and when it asks you to format your partition, choose NTFS (quick). After a quick format, it will copy XP files to your partition.

 

3. This is important. Once the XP installer has finished copying files onto your drive, it will restart your computer. (...) Also, replace the XP Install disk with that of Vista and let your computer boot from this disk now.

 

You obviously haven't taken the time to read my part of the guide where I've shown the pre-installation of WinXP isn't necessary at all. Just install Vista from its installation DVD, and when it's over, copy there the files ntdetect.com, ntldr and a modified boot.ini.

 

Have you actually read dilnalomo's guide and mine that follows before posting?

Edited February 5, 2007 by cbmkgd

[borisbadenov]

You know, I did read your guide and it did NOT work out for me. I read several different articles and nothing worked. In the best of cases, when using Acronis, it would lump Vista and XP together as one bootable OS and then inside of the windows boot loader, I would have to switch between vista and XP What I wanted was a separate option for each OS. I was just trying to share my info.

 

Sorry for wanting to contribute

 

 

In how many threads have you spammed this tutorial?

 

Anyways... just a comment about the points below:

You obviously haven't taken the time to read my part of the guide where I've shown the pre-installation of WinXP isn't necessary at all. Just install Vista from its installation DVD, and when it's over, copy there the files ntdetect.com, ntldr and a modified boot.ini.

 

Have you actually read dilnalomo's guide and mine that follows before posting?

Edited February 6, 2007 by borisbadenov

[cbmkgd]

In the best of cases, when using Acronis, it would lump Vista and XP together as one bootable OS and then inside of the windows boot loader, I would have to switch between vista and XP

With my guide, you probably forgot to hide the other Windows partition before installing vista, or not made the target partition active, or both.

 

There's already at least two tutorials in this thread (my own mistake), and now three, so I'm trying to suggest that you make your own discussion with your tutorial, to serve better the people who use your guide.

 

Sorry if I came off too hard, my apologies.

Edited February 6, 2007 by cbmkgd

[DRKRONNIN]

Hey Guys, its been a few weeks since I began to running a Osx+Vista dual boot on my machine and I have a few harware issues I would like to resolve. The first as I said in my earlier posts is that I had to disable my onboard USB to boot the Osx86 dvd and even after the installation Osx86 wont boot if my onboard USB is on. I read that I had to disable "USB Legacy" in Bios in order to get it to work correctly but it still doesnt boot. This is a minor inconvience because now everytime I want to work in OSx86 I have to go into bios in disable USB. The other problem Im having is stability issues inside of OSx86. Sometimes OSx86 boots and doesnt recogize my keyboard and mouse so when I move the mouse or press keys nothing happens. This problem also cropped up during my OSx86 installation as well. It seems that whenever I hit the Capslock button more than twice or so OSx86 stops responding to my keyboard and mouse and just freezes, I know the software is still running beacuse the cursor is still blinking on the screen. I'm using the stock eMachines keyboard with OSx86. Is there anyway I can boot into osx with usb support? and do you guys have any ideas on how I can solve my hardware issue? Thanks in advance for all your help.

[cbmkgd]

These may all be related.

You might have better help if you ask in the hardware subforum, post-installation subforum, or osx installation subforum, in its own thread.

Also searching the forums and/or the wiki might reveal similar problems and possible solutions found by others.

Edited February 13, 2007 by cbmkgd

[cbmkgd]

Newer version, Acronis Disk Director 10.0.2160, is now Vista compatible, including its Acronis OS Selector.

 

So once you update, you can dismiss my hack in post #2 (which unfortunately I can't edit...)

 

(I'll soon update my osx icon patch tool)

Edited March 4, 2007 by cbmkgd

[hurka]

And it is available at your usual torrent store...

[failurbydesign]

since Acronis Disk Director 10.0.2160 is vista ready, can i set up a partition and follow the xp guide to install the osx to dual boot with my vista...BTW..my vista was a clean install...

[cbmkgd]

AOSS should save any bootsector info about vista (or xp); so if Acronis did it right, disabling AOSS and chosing to return control to Vista's bootloader should work to get back to original settings if you desire.

In that case, under the assumption that Vista compatibility is met, then you should be able to follow dinalomo's guide and let AOSS take control of OSX after its install.

 

Note though that I haven't tested this compatibility yet, hence the 'if's', but Acronis would be quite stupid to put Vista logos in AOSS and have a bad implementation for it...

 

Since your Vista is already there, you could install Acronis Disk Director, then OS Selector.

Then create the primary partition for osx, etc... (check din's guide).

[failurbydesign]

the only bust is that i need that boot.ini.saved, i dont want to go through the trouble of backing up my pc, to install xp to install vista (and all my other programs) just to install the osx....also i have a fat32 partition, and when i load my 10.4.6 dvd in, on the screen while its loading, i get a box with a circle line through it..whats that all about?

[cbmkgd]

First time trying to install osx?

 

This isn't a dual-boot problem, it's specifically a osx one, might be a hardware incompatibility.

 

Consult wiki's hcl to check hardware compatibility lists.

 

Or search forum; sometimes this circle with a line is referred as the "forbidden" sign or (funily) as the "no smoking sign", "no enter sign", etc.

[failurbydesign]

yea its weird, b4 when i first tried to install, i got that error, the after a few tries it works, now with my new setup i get that...bummer...also i looked at the site, i have a gateway and my motherboard is a d915gse..

Edited March 7, 2007 by failurbydesign

[failurbydesign]

BUMP

[cbmkgd]

You'd have better result asking this specific non-dualboot question in its own thread, in the OSx86 Installation subforum.

Then, people with similar hardware can link you to the proper solution.

[Detosx]

I was thrilled to read the the new version of Acronis OS supports Vista. However, when I installed it, it didn't detect Vista. I put your boot.ini in the root of the C drive/Vista but still no joy. It detects OS X perfectly. The only get around was to mess around with partition manager at each boot up, maing vista or OS X active and the default boot. Only takes a minute but... frustrating.

 

My setup is... my laptop came with Vista and a rescue partition. I shrank the Vista partition in half, then shunted the rescue partition over to the right, in front of that I put a 102mb fat16 partition to which I installed Acronis OS. I then formatted the new middle partition as FAT32 and installed OS X.

 

In other words: Vista/OS X/Acronis/HP Rescue.

 

Not sure where I am going wrong. Any pointers welcome. :censored2:

[cbmkgd]

I put your boot.ini in the root of the C drive/Vista but still no joy. It detects OS X perfectly.

Too bad the new AOSS didn't detect Vista; I guess Acronis has to tweak it a bit.

But if you want to use my trick from post #2, it's not only the boot.ini that you must put in the root, but also ntldr and ntdetect.com.

 

Also, you could present your problem at the Acronis Disk Director forum.

 

Alternatively, you could let go of AOSS and use the osx darwin bootloader instead, or the Vista bootloader (helped by bcedit or other vista loader utility). You might have to repair some thing here in there; refer to devilhood's guide.

[Detosx]

Too bad the new AOSS didn't detect Vista; I guess Acronis has to tweak it a bit.

But if you want to use my trick from post #2, it's not only the boot.ini that you must put in the root, but also ntldr and ntdetect.com.

 

Also, you could present your problem at the Acronis Disk Director forum.

 

Alternatively, you could let go of AOSS and use the osx darwin bootloader instead, or the Vista bootloader (helped by bcedit or other vista loader utility). You might have to repair some thing here in there; refer to devilhood's guide.

Thanks cbmkgd, yep, I will revert to what I have done on my other computer and put the XP files in as per your original post. Odd that Acronis isn't seeing Vista. I will have a look at their forums.

 

As a work around I was letting Acronis OS boot up and then, depending on which operating system I wanted to boot,

 

1) I would click on Properties

2) and then click on Partition

3) and make the operating system that I wanted to boot up 'Active'

4) click on Apply

5) and then OK and then click on Boot - Acronis then boots the active partition if that's how you set it up.

 

Sounds a bit involved but it's about six seconds of mouse clicks and might be helpful to those who have got this far and who don't own XP. Now, why you WANT to boot up Vista in the first place is another matter altogether. It is soooo slow and HP should have known better than to fill the laptop I bought with so much HP and Vista bloat on only 512MB of memory. The hard drive is constantly trying to compensate with virtual memory. Way to to kill a hard drive, HP! Of course I will upgrade the memory to 1.5gigs but OS X is very fast on 512mb by way of comparison, on a computer it wasn't specifically designed to run on. I mean, good on MS for trying but there's backwards compatibility and there is just plain backwards!

Edited March 18, 2007 by Detosx

[JuanP.]

Hi there I am New on the forum so

Here it is

I am triying to run MAC OsX 10.4.6 on

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Core Venice

Supports MMX (+), 3DNOW (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64.

Biostar MOBO model C51MCP51

Chipset GeForce 6100

1 GB RAM DDR PC 3200

1 PCI SCSI card

2 SCSI hard drives 17 GB Cheetah 10.000 rpm

1 IDE 40 GB Samsumg drive

External usb DVD RW

ATI RADEON X700 Graphics card

 

I made a partition on my IDE drive and installed MAC OsX 10.4.6 on it

 

Then i went to the next step created the boot meni with the Chain0 File. But that gave me problems right away it kept looping to the boot menu until you hit F8 and select the partition to boot were MAC OsX is iantalled.

 

That looked good until in the midle of the Apple Screen showed a Sign like the Do not Disconect from the ipods and stayed that way for ever.

 

I restarted and initialezed using the -V command and when it stopped loading displayed a message that sain STILL WAITING FOR ROOT DEVICE

Please if anyone can help me i woul very much appreciate