Trials of a windows user...

[steelehuskie]

Hey guys, first post

 

I'm not new to computers by any means, but I'm most definately new to OSX.

 

If I had the money I'd probably just buy a mac straight up. But I don't, so I'm trying to get this stuff working so I can play around and learn OSX for my own devices.

 

Hey, I might even like it.

 

I'm fairly experienced with Windows/Linux, and hacking around scripts/registry in those I can do, but this stuff is like being on another planet.

 

I've downloaded iatkos L2, and I'm able to boot the OS, but I can't seem to get video working, not even a bit.

 

If I use the Graphics Enabler, I get a little 'card not supported!' error in the upper left. Disable that, I get no video.

 

Enable the ATI drivers, I get 'card not supported!'. At one point I even had the thing bootlooping out of nowhere. I don't even know what i did to do that.

 

I keep reading these tutorials that are everywhere, and they're just confusing, I don't get it!

 

Hopefully somebody can clear this junk up for me so I can get to playing around with this thing

 

I've combed over the HCL and everything I have is pretty much compatible, so I can't figure out what's up.

 

Also, I have an OSX vm setup, which I was able to install fine with the iatkos L2 disk. So if there's a way I can use that to actually install the system on my PC, that'd be cool.

 

So, any input guys? I've been lurking this stuff for years now, never had a computer that matched up so close with the HCL until now!

[Foxic]

Hello mate, welcome to the forum.

 

First off, unless you get really stuck, ditch the distro. Use retail where possible (the hardware in your sig should be compatible no problem though I have no idea about ATi/AMD video cards)

 

Have a read of some of the Lion install methods. You generally need an external hard drive and/or a few usb sticks.

 

Use your existing VM machine to set up the external drive, this will involve copying the Lion install media to the external HDD/USB stick, along with a boot loader such as chameleon 2.1 or chimera.

 

Boot using the external drive, the boot loader will boot you into the installer, from there you can install Lion to your internal HDD.

 

Once installed, boot from the external drive again but this time when you're in the boot loader, choose to boot into your Lion installation on your internal HDD.

 

Install the boot loader to your internal hard drive so you no longer need the external drive in order to boot.

 

Customise your install with DSDT.am and kexts you get your hardware working properly, i.e. QE/CI for video, speedstep, C and P states for your processor etc.

 

If you just want to copy your VM to a native install you might be able to restore it to a partition using disk utility but I don't know for sure. I've never used an OS X vm.

 

I hope this helps.

[steelehuskie]

So by using the retail version of OSX, it should boot on my system in some sort of low res 2D mode right?

 

And from there I can add the kexts and DSDT files?

 

Would using [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] + the Lion.app work as well?

 

Does Lion even come in a retail disc package?

[steelehuskie]

I've got a question, I've kind of muddled my way through thus far...

 

If I have my video card in, does OSX have the capability to kind of run in a lower resolution until I get the proper driver for it?

 

Or does it basically work or not work depending on whether the video card driver is installed?

[steelehuskie]

I don't mean to keep tripleposting or whatever, but I figure it'd be good to follow through on this post.

 

Most people abandon these things fairly quickly.

 

But I have achieved semi-success, using the OSX Lion App + [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url]. Using the lion install on my VM, I built a bootable USB to install from.

 

I had to move the ATIX3000 and ATI6000 kexts to the root folder, and I used the PCIrootUID=0 flag for the installer. Booted and installed just fine.

 

However after running [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] to install my DSDT and stuff, I get a kernel panic upon reboot. Tells me I need to restart the machine.

 

Not sure what I did wrong, but I guess I'm going to start over from scratch and use trial and error when setting this stuff up. Any input?

 

The verbose input doesn't really tell me anything special honestly, I can't see where it's failing. I'll have some more info once I get home.

[Gringo Vermelho]

When you use tools like [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] and [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] you automatically limit yourself to getting help from other users who use [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] and [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url]. Maybe that's a good thing, xbeast users are probably in the majority these days.

 

Like yourself ("i clicked on something in xbeast, I don't know what happened and now I have a kernel panic"), I and the majority of experienced users here have absolutely no idea what these tools do and how they work because we have never used them.

 

Go to the TonyMacx86 forums and ask for help over there, they will know how to help you.

 

Netkas' blog is a good place to find information on how to get ATI cards to work.

[Foxic]

Boot into single user mode -s and delete the dsdt:

 

rm rf /Extra/dsdt.aml

 

restart

 

Then see what happens

[Hangten]

 

 

Here in the picture is what you should check for in your root, depending how polished off you want your system to run you might also be using an SSDT for cpu powermanagement...

 

Some stuff in the E/E folder is a simple drag and drop.

 

Also listing as much detailed info about what you have done so far (what is in your Extra/Extensions) would help get answers so members are on the same page and can reflect correct information on response.

 

Installing vanilla is the way to go so google "MyHack" and read. Its not that tonymac is not helpful but you need to grasp whats really happening so in the future updating and such doesn't .

[Alessandro17]

When you use tools like [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] and [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] you automatically limit yourself to getting help from other users who use [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] and [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url]. Maybe that's a good thing, xbeast users are probably in the majority these days.

 

Like yourself ("i clicked on something in xbeast, I don't know what happened and now I have a kernel panic"), I and the majority of experienced users here have absolutely no idea what these tools do and how they work because we have never used them.

 

Go to the TonyMacx86 forums and ask for help over there, they will know how to help you.

 

Very well said. And we should not help people who use *beast solutions. Once they make that choice, they should ask tonymacx86. Unless they are willing to change and use methods supported by us. Even a distro, because if we prefer retail, we have never said that supporting distros should be forbidden.

[Gringo Vermelho]

I don't know.. what are "methods supported by us"? Personally I can support retail + boot CD on hardware similar to my own and the few other hackintoshes I have installed and configured (counted on one hand). I can even guess things and be correct most of the time.

 

But I'm not worth much against a retail installation on AMD hardware, ATI video cards, anything with nforce or other non-Intel chipset...or anything with a Core i type CPU and X58 chipset and newer. Whether its tonybeast, distro or retail+boot CD.

 

I will help anyone I can when I feel like it, but I tend to ignore most posts that mention iATKOS and anythingbeast, especially if it's on hardware I don't know anything about.

 

Again (yes I know that I always say this) It's funny how the tools and install methods that are perceived as making it easy (ie the noob magnets) always turn out to cause the most problems. When something goes wrong, there is often a lot of things you have to undo that were put in place by these tools and methods.

 

Retail + boot CD is really the easiest way, but the problem is that you need a good bit of base knowledge before you come to realize that. I'm sure that I would run straight into the comforting arms of TonyMac if I was a noob arriving today.

[Alessandro17]

Again, we should only support retail and, to a lesser extent, distros.