slowdiver Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Hi, I am following the things around the ALC 88x-HD Audio-Chips for a year now. First, we got it to run with the azalia.kext, but no input - then with an old applehda.kext for both in and output, now some are trying with the azalia again. but no definite guide yet. if you search for it, you just get to much information. to much newbies with to much questions. lets put our knowledge together for every single alc-chip with guides. what kext is being used, what info.plists are altered, what way etc. - maybe we get a document for the genius-bar this way, if the community works together. to start (and please correct me): 1. nobody got 5 or even 7.1 sound with the azalia-line til now. 2. there are just a few with a *working* line in. 3. sound out seems to be fully supported a) including a working soundbar only with the azalia-kext, while you get in and out-support only with the old applehda.kext yet (but the volumebar does not work this way) 4. azalia.kext is given up by apple with 10.4.4 5. only working applehda.kexts are those before 10.4.4 6. nobody got a applehda.kext working later than 10.4.4, 10.4.4-10.4.7 seem to be useless for alc-users. hope we manage to gather information for a guide, i could post how to get a working in and out with intel915 mainboards, applehda.kext and alc880s. but this information is from somebody else - and it would be great, if he or she could post it here - and the others could participate by throwing in their new information for all the other alcs. end would be a definite guide which lists 1. alc model 2. type of modification 3. possible url to an altered kext 4. todos finally we could end up with putting all this together to an installer like the one for the ati-graphicscards. -------- 1st responses: ALC882 + working SoundOut on green plug with Azalia.kext(edited with 27d88086 & 10ec0882) - SoundIN & SPDIF Not working even with the old HDA.kext ( That SHOWS the LineIN & SPDIF, but is not working). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene204 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Nice and good Idea... ALC882, working SoundOut on green plug with Azalia.kext(edited with 27d88086 & 10ec0882) SoundIN & SPDIF Not working even with the old HDA.kext ( That SHOWS the LineIN & SPDIF, but is not working). Trying around with AC97 did not working here too. Bye.. Rene I have a look to other Threads for finding a solution. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-184001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublej Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 you say noone got 5.1 sound til now? does that mean that someone has got it to work. i still just have two channels, so please direct me to the forum page if there is a solution for the alc882. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-185343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene204 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Hi, think that is not "noone" in case on "no one"... the only thing that work with an ALC882 is Sound Out (2 Channel). But it looks like that no one is interest in this Thread now... Rene Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-185441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowdiver Posted September 13, 2006 Author Share Posted September 13, 2006 Hi, think that is not "noone" in case on "no one"... right. But it looks like that no one is interest in this Thread now... sad, but true (considering this as *bump* for the next 3 days) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-187955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldiar Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Hey, i´ve got an "Realtek HD Audio", too. It´s in my ASUS A6JC pro60. How to fix the problem to get sound? I didn´t found an vendor ID or so in dxdiag. Hope to hear of you too! (maybe you can speak german?) mfg Christian, 17, Germany(Hessia) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-188052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 i´ve got an "Realtek HD Audio", too. It´s in my ASUS A6JC pro60. How to fix the problem to get sound? I didn´t found an vendor ID or so in dxdiag. Try the following guide. It will help you find your vendor and device id's (see the appendix) and hopefully get you some sound: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=18642 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-188061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK.Xscape Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 so is there a kext i can just drop in or do i have to do all that? ive got it to work with just a kext but now i cant find the page where i got the kext from. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-202228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Serena Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Okay! I did some research, and my HP Pavilion a1328x has an ATI RC410 northbridge and an ATI IXP450 southbridge. The Genius Bar thread for the Realtek ALC882 lists the Vendor ID for the Microsoft HD Audio Bus (0x27d8), which I don't have. The Vendor ID that's predefined in the AppleAzaliaController.kext is for the Intel chipset, again, I don't have it. I'm currently working on finding a Vendor ID to use in the IOPCIPrimaryMatch key, and I'm assuming its the one for the ATI IXP450 that I want to use. In Windows XP MCE2005, there is no Microsoft hardware listed anywhere in the Computer Management Console. Northbridge: ATI RC410 Southbridge: ATI IXP450 Sound: Realtek HD Audio (ID 0x10EC 0883 Confirmed) Findings for PCI Bus: ICH6: 0x2668 8086 ICH7: 0x27d8 8086 ESB2: 0x269a 8086 ATI SB450: 0x437b 1002 Considering "SB450" probably means "SouthBridge ixp450" its a pretty good bet that one will work. I'll boot into FreeBSD to confirm some questions about my hardware first. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-202380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 The Genius Bar thread is for ALC 882. You seem to have ALC 883. The Appendix to that thread tells you how to find the two sets of vendor/device id's you need - 0x10ec0883 being the first one. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=18642 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-202385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Serena Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 The Genius Bar thread is for ALC 882. You seem to have ALC 883. The Appendix to that thread tells you how to find the two sets of vendor/device id's you need - 0x10ec0883 being the first one. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=18642 Yes, I have the ALC883, but as I also said the keys provided there for the IOPCIPrimaryMatch make my system FAIL TO BOOT. Anyways, FreeBSD seems to use /boot/kernel/snd_atiixp.ko for my sound on this machine. I'm going to try the ATI SB450 device ID now. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-202397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Yes, I have the ALC883, but as I also said the keys provided there for the IOPCIPrimaryMatch make my system FAIL TO BOOT The keys for IOPCIPrimaryMatch for YOUR computer can be found in Step B of the Appendix of that guide. It tells you to go into Windows and look up the vendor id and device id of the audio controller chip. Using those values, you build a new "key" to place in IOPCIPrimaryMatch. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-202403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Serena Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Working for Audio Output Only! Can we add another possible string to the thread in the Genius Bar? ATI IXP450 Southbridge Chipset with ALC883: IOPCIPrimaryMatch: 0x437b1002 Known OEM Models: HP Pavilion a1328x Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-202405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Can we add another possible string to the thread in the Genius Bar? The thread in the Genius Bar clearly says that for other audio chips, to go to the Appendix in that thread and determine the new correct string values. From my answer above: The keys for IOPCIPrimaryMatch for YOUR computer can be found in Step B of the Appendix of that guide. It tells you to go into Windows and look up the vendor id and device id of the audio controller chip. Using those values, you build a new "key" to place in IOPCIPrimaryMatch. Working for Audio Output Only! Yes, most of the audio hacks only succeed in achieving audio out. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-202407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genix Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Does this work for non HD Realtek? I have ALC850. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-202452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luissillo Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Do you know how to make sound work on a Elitegroup P4VXAS 1.1 Motherboard. I think the chipset is VIA-3058.Thanks a lot Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-202627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveskunk Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 ok guys:) finally made it to work;p as i wrote before a got acl0883 and numbers are:0x10ec0833 and 27d88086. trick is to modify first AppleAzaliaAudio.kext/info.plist.change <key>IOHDAudioCodecVendorID</key> <string>0x10ec0883</string> note: ofcourse if your vendorId is 10ec and device id 0883.u can check it in xp/devicemanager/details. screenshots on this forum. then delete: Extensions.kextcache and Extensions.mkext. then open terminal,type: sudo -s then cd /System/Library/Extensions/ then chmod -R 755 AppleAzaliaAudio.kext then chown -R root:wheel AppleAzaliaAudio.kext then kextcache -k /System/Library/Extensions kextload /System/Library/Extensions/AppleAzaliaAudio.kext at this point u should get kext succesfuly loaded reboot after reboot i changed appleAzaliaAudio/contents/plugins/AppleAzaliaController/info.plist to replace witch my hex number: find <key>IOPCIPrimaryMatch</key> <string>0x284b88086</string> and replaced string with my value: 0x27D88086 once again screen shots can b found on this forum then u have to delete: Extensions.kextcache and Extensions.mkext. then open terminal,type: sudo -s then cd /System/Library/Extensions/AppleAzaliaAudio.kext/Contents/PlugIns/ then chmod -R 755 AppleAzaliaController.kext then chown -R root:wheel AppleAzaliaController.kext then kextcache -k /System/Library/Extensions kextload /System/Library/Extensions/AppleAzaliaAudio.kext once again at this point u should get kext succesfuly loaded reboot and that's it. it worked 4 me.hope it will help somebody.spent over 12h managing net and audio to work but finally it's working.i'm going to have a rest...;d Enjoy Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-239353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntsmkfob Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hi braveskunk, what version of OS X did you do this on? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/27015-realtek-hd-audio-lets-start-making-a-definite-guide-for-the-genius-bar/#findComment-239453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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