Wayland Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Check this out: http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail...c_id=mwbfroogle I have been looking it up, and it says UNIVERSAL in the details. Does this mean that Mac and PC can run the same card? It's on the macmall and on the pc sites. Here are the details: RADEON X1950 XTX RADEON X1950 XTX MacMall Part#: 7114180 Mfr.Part#: 100-435843 Manufacturer: ATI Click here to visit our ATI store. Usually Ships: Call Us Platform: Universal Availability: Place your order today and be one of the first to receive this product when it arrives! Your Price: $515.99 RADEON X1950 XTX ----------- When looking at the other graphics cards on the macmall website: For the Radeon 9600 Pro PC & Mac Edition it is listed as: Platform: Universal Now let's look at: Radeon 9200 128MB PCI Mac Edition for G3, G4 or G5 Platform: Macintosh ------------------------ So they are listing it as universal! So one would assume that means it will work in both... and if it doesn't, you can simply return it because false advertising would apply. Now I found this listing on froogle. IF you go to searh and type in x1950 in the search you will get this: ATI RADEON X1950 XTX RADEON X1950 XTX MacMall Part #7114180 Mfg. Part #100-435843 PC & Mac $515.99 ------------- So it is listed as Pc and Mac.... the only card I have seen like this yet. So one does wonder... are there drivers included? Performance Reviews: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html...W50aHVzaWFzdA== http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_ra...tx_performance/ http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q3/radeo...tx/index.x?pg=1 Summary: It's under the Nvidia Quad... but I have seen other reviews where the crossfire x1950 xtx wins over the Quad SLI. However I dunno if the crossfire will work in Mac... Crossfire: There are two differences in the cards, the crossfire chip does make it different, but enough to cause problems??? I dunno Check out these images of it up close. Does ANYONE know if this will effect compatibility? So you need one Crossfire and one normal, so multi-compatibility looks good. I like the cable combining. Seems better than the SLI cable. It seemed like too much going through that little guy http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=287&a...xpert&pid=3 Crossfire details, confirmed. There are two cards. Crossfire x1950 xtx card: Man # 100-435846 x1950 xtx card: #100-435843 ---- I also saw this one too: H195XTX512DVN-R <- (Monarch Computer's Images and GearLive and enthusiast.hardocp.com) It looks like at least one card is completely different. Look at these pics: http://www.firingsquad.com/media/article_image.asp/1977/01 http://www.firingsquad.com/media/article_image.asp/1977/02 Also there is a nice review in there as well. Video Review: http://digitallifetv.com/blogs/digitallife...8/24/19409.aspx These guys are kinda weird, but I watched it to see the card. BTW... the voltage requirements are reported LOWER than Nvidia cards. That' Deffinetelly good! Release Date: September 14th UPDATE: I have contacted ATI for more details about this product that was not listed on any site. Particularly pertaining to our situation here Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/26766-universal-video-card-ati-x1950-xtx-crossfire/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayland Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 Anyone have an ideas on this? I figure it to be somewhat big news Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/26766-universal-video-card-ati-x1950-xtx-crossfire/#findComment-182046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottleNeckKiller Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I have a sound card that said it support Mac OS X and Window. I installed the card and Mac OS X driver and it turned out to be a big disappointment. The card will work on a real Mac OS X but not on a hackintosh. And for your graphic card, it may work and it may not work on a hackintosh. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/26766-universal-video-card-ati-x1950-xtx-crossfire/#findComment-182143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacMartin Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I have a sound card that said it support Mac OS X and Window.I installed the card and Mac OS X driver and it turned out to be a big disappointment. The card will work on a real Mac OS X but not on a hackintosh. And for your graphic card, it may work and it may not work on a hackintosh. There's a big difference between th ATI-card and your soundcard: the slot is uses. The ATI-card uses PCIe, which is supported bij OSX x86. Your soundcard is a PCI-card, which is support by OSX, but just for the PPC-platform. Back on-topic: I don't think it will work with the ATI-card. They're able to build a card with bios and efi, but the mobo forces the choice, and that's before booting OSX. My idea is based on BootCamp. When the 'bios' was chosen by booting the OS, the original Mac-version of the videocard wouldn't work. Otherwise, when booting XP on a Mac, there was no bios found at the videocard. ATI would just benefit by a universal card by the fact that they just need to produce one card. An that's much cheaper than produce 2 different ones, which for 90% use the same circuits. Just my Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/26766-universal-video-card-ati-x1950-xtx-crossfire/#findComment-182191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayland Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 There's a big difference between th ATI-card and your soundcard: the slot is uses. The ATI-card uses PCIe, which is supported bij OSX x86. Your soundcard is a PCI-card, which is support by OSX, but just for the PPC-platform. Back on-topic: I don't think it will work with the ATI-card. They're able to build a card with bios and efi, but the mobo forces the choice, and that's before booting OSX. My idea is based on BootCamp. When the 'bios' was chosen by booting the OS, the original Mac-version of the videocard wouldn't work. Otherwise, when booting XP on a Mac, there was no bios found at the videocard. ATI would just benefit by a universal card by the fact that they just need to produce one card. An that's much cheaper than produce 2 different ones, which for 90% use the same circuits. Just my I totally agree with you on this one. It does seem like it probley won't be 100% compatible right away, but it sure does have some great potential! I have heard some of the 1900's have a large amount of success and I think that with some work these will work too. Of course there might be some issues, but I think if there's a shot, it's with these cards! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/26766-universal-video-card-ati-x1950-xtx-crossfire/#findComment-182284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayland Posted September 12, 2006 Author Share Posted September 12, 2006 UPDATE!!! Ati gave me a response... very typical though: We have responded to your issue. Solution: I saw that on Macmall they labeled it as Universal platform, able to work in OSX and Pc, is that true? Does that also apply to the crossfire card? The Radeon® X1950 series of products that are currently available supports PC only. We do not have the Radeon® X1950 card that works on both PC and MAC. Will there be updated drivers included with either card, or will the ones in OSx 10.4.7 work with the new card? We do not have any MAC drivers available for RADEON X1950 series as we do not have the particular model for MAC support. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/26766-universal-video-card-ati-x1950-xtx-crossfire/#findComment-187204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellair Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I hope my future X1900GT will be compatible with the JaS 10.4.7 as I will rebuild my pc config just to have a solid machine (based on Crusoe) and dualboot (Win+Mac) or triple boot (Win+Mac+Linux) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/26766-universal-video-card-ati-x1950-xtx-crossfire/#findComment-187233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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