MyPetFrog Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 PROBLEM WITH A PC GTX 285 card causing lockups! I have read around and around and can't seem to find a solution. Snow Leopard install went perfectly, Kakewalk install and Multiboot install all good. 10.6.8. Booting in 64bit. Have followed all guidelines in the various websites and rest of installation seems fine. However the system seems to be hanging when I use the GFX card! The system hangs both when just playing back a simple HD Video, and when using Adobe Premiere CS5.5 and it's GPU rendering I installed an XFX 1GB GTX 285 pc card and although the install went fine (GIGABYTE GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3) and all parts of SL working fine, whenever the GFX card is 'stressed' it just hangs...within about 30-60 seconds of playing a HD video, or playback on a Adobe Pemiere timeline. So as it hangs on video playback it doesn;t seem like a CUDA driver issue. I have to reset, even the keyboard hangs. To try and troubleshoot I borrowed a friends EVGA official MAC version of the GTX 285 and tried that and premiere works fine, video plays back fine....doesn't hang etc even after 20minutes of a timeline render!! Put the PC XFX card back in and it hangs within 20seconds! Doesn't seem to be getting hot at all as happens very quickly after starting the render/playback, fans spinning fine. Same power to both cards, installed in same socket. Only difference is ones a Mac version and one a PC version! HELP! If it helps diagnosis, the PC XFX also shows link speed at only 2.5GT/s whereas the EVGA Mac one says 5GT/s so not sure what's happend there. (both link x16 lane) Can anyone offer any advice? Any ideas? Do I have to do anything special to get the PC card to work? What have I missed? It's doing my head in! Many Thanks. PS: I'm not sure if I'm hearing things but it's almost like there's an increase in fan noise JUST before it hangs.... they whoosh for a split second then it hangs... sound seems to continue to run as the video plays, but the display completely locks and computer is completely unresponsive and needs a reset.. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/267316-nvidia-gtx-285-problem-crashing-on-gigabyte-ga-z68mx-ud2h-b3/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Vermelho Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 First try installing the latest nvidia drivers for Snow Leopard and see if that fixes it: http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-macosx...f01-driver.html If not, and if you're using Chameleon GraphicsEnabler, you can try dumping the ROM from your friend's GTX 285 and use Chameleon to load it. This will override your card's own ROM. I can't promise that this will fix your issues but I know that this little trick has been used successfully on many Hackintoshes with 8600 GT video cards. Maybe it will work for you too. Add UseNvidiaROM=Yes and VBIOS=Yes to your Boot.plist, place the ROM in /Extra and name it vendorID_deviceID.rom. (ie 10de_05e3.rom..if 05e3 is indeed the device ID of your card..I just did a quick google, make sure you use the correct one). Chameleon 2.0 Boothelp.txt: http://forge.voodooprojects.org/p/chameleo...oc/BootHelp.txt It might be useful for comparison if you could dump the ROM from your own card as well and zip and attach both ROMs here. Use the full editor to attach files. On Windows you can use GPU-Z: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/ - Click the icon that looks like an IC. I'm not sure if your friend's GTX 285 Mac edition must be running OS X when you dump the ROM..in order to get the OS X specific bits...hopefully someone will post here and confirm..or not. I'll look around and see if I can find something you can use on OS X. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/267316-nvidia-gtx-285-problem-crashing-on-gigabyte-ga-z68mx-ud2h-b3/#findComment-1745310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rominator Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Mac EFI rome are very simple. The first half of ROM is a standard PC BIOS, the second half EFI. For MOST purposes, the Mac drivers use the PC BIOS part. It is only for the initial boot screens and initializing card that EFI is used. Once the EFI hands off the card to regular drivers, it runs on PC BIOS part. I have attached the mac 285 ROM. You may have luck trying what Gringo has suggested. DO NOT FLASH THIS ROM ONTO A REGULAR GTX285 !!!! It won't fit, plain and simple. I created a PC BIOS only Mac GTX285 ROM for use on GTX260/275 cards but nobody ever reached down and found a set...so nobody ever tried it. Would solve many issues that you currently use NVCAP to fix, but everybody gets squeamish at the word "flash". Anyhow, try the method Gringo mentions. mac285.rom.zip Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/267316-nvidia-gtx-285-problem-crashing-on-gigabyte-ga-z68mx-ud2h-b3/#findComment-1748451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPetFrog Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Mac EFI rome are very simple. The first half of ROM is a standard PC BIOS, the second half EFI. For MOST purposes, the Mac drivers use the PC BIOS part. It is only for the initial boot screens and initializing card that EFI is used. Once the EFI hands off the card to regular drivers, it runs on PC BIOS part. I have attached the mac 285 ROM. You may have luck trying what Gringo has suggested. DO NOT FLASH THIS ROM ONTO A REGULAR GTX285 !!!! It won't fit, plain and simple. I created a PC BIOS only Mac GTX285 ROM for use on GTX260/275 cards but nobody ever reached down and found a set...so nobody ever tried it. Would solve many issues that you currently use NVCAP to fix, but everybody gets squeamish at the word "flash". Anyhow, try the method Gringo mentions. That's great guys, thanks. Will give it a whirl and report back! thanks again Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/267316-nvidia-gtx-285-problem-crashing-on-gigabyte-ga-z68mx-ud2h-b3/#findComment-1748462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluthz Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 My GTX 285 also show linkspeed at 2.5 GT/sec I have a Asus P5QPro mobo GeForce GTX 285: Name: NVDA,Display-B Type: Display Controller Driver Installed: Yes MSI: Yes Bus: PCI Slot: Slot-1 Vendor ID: 0x10de Device ID: 0x05e3 Subsystem Vendor ID: 0x10de Subsystem ID: 0x0010 ROM Revision: xx.xx.xx - internal Revision ID: 0x00a1 Link Width: x16 Link Speed: 2.5 GT/s All benchmarks tells me that it is running optimal, so I don't think it's an issue. CineBench 11.5 gives me 29.7FPS which is normal for GTX 285. The card is blazing fast and have no issues either. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/267316-nvidia-gtx-285-problem-crashing-on-gigabyte-ga-z68mx-ud2h-b3/#findComment-1748581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenor Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 My GTX 285 also show linkspeed at 2.5 GT/secI have a Asus P5QPro mobo GeForce GTX 285: Name: NVDA,Display-B Type: Display Controller Driver Installed: Yes MSI: Yes Bus: PCI Slot: Slot-1 Vendor ID: 0x10de Device ID: 0x05e3 Subsystem Vendor ID: 0x10de Subsystem ID: 0x0010 ROM Revision: xx.xx.xx - internal Revision ID: 0x00a1 Link Width: x16 Link Speed: 2.5 GT/s All benchmarks tells me that it is running optimal, so I don't think it's an issue. CineBench 11.5 gives me 29.7FPS which is normal for GTX 285. The card is blazing fast and have no issues either. My link speed 2.5 gt/sec. too but CineBench 11.5 gives 44.4 fps. Difference is I'm using lion and cpu is i7 2600k Is the cpu effect score or lion makes this difference? I'm happy to score but I want to know which test program is gives true graphics performance? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/267316-nvidia-gtx-285-problem-crashing-on-gigabyte-ga-z68mx-ud2h-b3/#findComment-1749294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rominator Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 My link speed 2.5 gt/sec. too butCineBench 11.5 gives 44.4 fps. Difference is I'm using lion and cpu is i7 2600k Is the cpu effect score or lion makes this difference? I'm happy to score but I want to know which test program is gives true graphics performance? Yet another reason for someone to find the guts to flash. The link speed is set in BIOS. I worked with Netkas on this...he claims that the speed is set dynamically, but I am 85% certain that if you use the Mac 285 BIOS, you will get 5.0 instead of 2.5. If anyone with some bravery happens by, let me know, i'll give you the ROM to try. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/267316-nvidia-gtx-285-problem-crashing-on-gigabyte-ga-z68mx-ud2h-b3/#findComment-1750565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenor Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Yet another reason for someone to find the guts to flash. The link speed is set in BIOS. I worked with Netkas on this...he claims that the speed is set dynamically, but I am 85% certain that if you use the Mac 285 BIOS, you will get 5.0 instead of 2.5. If anyone with some bravery happens by, let me know, i'll give you the ROM to try. If this rom will effect my brightness control I want to try it. Because my brightness control work but it's effects little. I'm using xfx gtx285 with cinema display 23'' Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/267316-nvidia-gtx-285-problem-crashing-on-gigabyte-ga-z68mx-ud2h-b3/#findComment-1753396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluthz Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 My link speed 2.5 gt/sec. too butCineBench 11.5 gives 44.4 fps. Difference is I'm using lion and cpu is i7 2600k Is the cpu effect score or lion makes this difference? I'm happy to score but I want to know which test program is gives true graphics performance? You could try nova bench, which is free too. as for CB11.5 results, I have a C2Duo E8500,@3.67GHz which is why you score higher. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/267316-nvidia-gtx-285-problem-crashing-on-gigabyte-ga-z68mx-ud2h-b3/#findComment-1754465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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