vbetts Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Yeah, this dell won't cut it.Xbench score was 27.And that was without the graphics, and opengl test(My chip doesn't work with it) But, it will be an AMD machine.Perferably, an AMD AM2 CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ SAPPHIRE Radeon X1600XT 256MB Crossfire ready(Not using crossfire right now) HITACHI 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive Benq 16x DVD/R POWMAX PSDE480 ATX 480W Power Supply So, does this all sound good? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Sounds fine, except: I've seen a few problems getting OSX to work on a 3800. Also, some Athlon's including the 3800 suffer a "stuttering" problem that is solved by turning off one of the cores. Which reduces performance. Perform a search as follows and read the results: keyword: 3800 forums: all result type: posts Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-151936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted July 29, 2006 Author Share Posted July 29, 2006 So, if I use both cores for Mac, there will be problems...Hmm....Kind of pointless to get a dual core cpu then.... What about the Pentium D and the Intel core duo? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-151946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Core Duo also has problems. Dual core Pentium D's work fine. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-151948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiasdas Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Just wondering, why would you think of getting anything other than the core 2 duo? I mean, it blows all of the other cpu's away and its not expensive at all. It also overclocks amazingly with simple air cooling. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-151988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted July 30, 2006 Author Share Posted July 30, 2006 Just wondering, why would you think of getting anything other than the core 2 duo? I mean, it blows all of the other cpu's away and its not expensive at all. It also overclocks amazingly with simple air cooling. Not exspensive?Are you kidding me?the 1.6 ghz Duo core is $245 on newegg, which is one of the cheapest stores online to get them.Plus, The FSB and the L1 and L2 cach are lower on the Intel Core Duo than it is on the AMD Athlon X2.And only 32 bit cpu. I want a system to run the Mac, and windows with dual cores. If it comes down to it, I'll have to get a Pentium D system. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-152112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poofyhairguy Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 What about the Pentium D and the Intel core duo? My D works great. Just buy the right motherboard (spend some time on that part) and you will spank real Macs. My Xbench score is 117. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-152126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1976 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 My D works great. Just buy the right motherboard (spend some time on that part) and you will spank real Macs. My Xbench score is 117. I'be been reading a whole lot about this XBench program. Question: Where do you get it? Is it Universal? How do you read the results? Can someone post a screenshot of it? Thanks a lot. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-152955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 I'be been reading a whole lot about this XBench program. Question: Where do you get it? Is it Universal? How do you read the results? Can someone post a screenshot of it? Thanks a lot. A Google search for "xbench" brought it up as the first item. It is Universal. http://www.xbench.com/ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-152972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1976 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 A Google search for "xbench" brought it up as the first item. It is Universal. http://www.xbench.com/ Damn! I'm low! DAMN LOW! How do I improve this? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-152977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiasdas Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Not exspensive?Are you kidding me?the 1.6 ghz Duo core is $245 on newegg, which is one of the cheapest stores online to get them.Plus, The FSB and the L1 and L2 cach are lower on the Intel Core Duo than it is on the AMD Athlon X2.And only 32 bit cpu. I want a system to run the Mac, and windows with dual cores. If it comes down to it, I'll have to get a Pentium D system. Um, did I say core duo? No. I said Core 2 duo. You know, the new chips intel just released that are faster than anything AMD offers? The ones that overclock very very very well on stock cooling? The ones that start at $183? Have you researched them at all? I guess not. http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2802 Lets start on your questions: The FSB is more than ANY AMD on the market, with an L2 cache of 2 MB. (Up to 4MB if you get the x6600, which is the best value it looks like) They are ALL 64 bit. They are the successor to Pentium D. Do some research before you spout off with NO knowledge. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-153152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1976 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Um, did I say core duo? No. I said Core 2 duo. You know, the new chips intel just released that are faster than anything AMD offers? The ones that overclock very very very well on stock cooling? The ones that start at $183? Have you researched them at all? I guess not. $183? Where? Do you have a link? Please, let me know. I paid almost $250 for my Pentium D 3.2... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-153154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiasdas Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I linked the article. They haven't yet hit stores in bulk, just keep your eyes open. BTW, sucks you bought your CPU right before they dropped the prices. An Intel Pentium D 945 3.4 Ghz is only 163 now. Here are more articles: Review - http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/cor..._out_athlon_64/ http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2795 Price - http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/cor..._64/page10.html http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2802 This is one of those things you just want to wait for. Shouldnt be more than a week or two before they are available. In the words of Tomshardware.com: "First of all let me sort the facts: As soon as Core 2 Duo hits the market, it will... * be the fastest x86 processor (both single and dual core models) * make the Pentium D and all predecessors look like antiques * be the clear choice for performance users despite its rather expensive price * outperform the complete Athlon 64 family (X2 and FX) in all areas, including gaming, where AMD has traditionally been very strong * consume less energy than other standard desktop processors * transform the whole Intel platform from an energy-hungry beast to a reasonable solution that is competitive in terms of performance per Watt" BTW: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819116239 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-153178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdtvboy Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Do some research before you spout off with NO knowledge. Well, I've done quite a bit of research, and it's not clear at all whether Core 2 Duo will work smoothly on the old hacked kernel. If you are building a machine today and you want the most reliable system with peripherals functioning 'out of the box', Pentium Ds and 945G motherboards are the way to go. I just built a system yesterday based on a Pentium D 840 and Intel D945GPM. After I got the latest bios, I did a native install (10.4.6 MyZ) to a SATA hard drive, and everything worked on first boot except audio, which is an issue on almost any system (Xbench score=105 without making any optimization effort). This MB/CPU combo is less than $200 with a rebate from tigerdirect. That's less than the cheapest Conroe you can order today because of short supply. I also have a Conroe E6400 on order for use in a separate Windoze system. It was $271 shipped. Not cheap. So please don't encourage everyone to buy Conroe for Hackintosh. It's expensive and unproven, and the OSX-suitable motherboard selection is extremely limited. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-153698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiasdas Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Very true. It is not a proven platform yet, because it is just being released, but for a processor, it is simply the fastest, and is not that expensive. Since it runs the same x86 architecture as the older intel cpus, I doubt it would have much difficulty. And hopefully people arent trying to build new expensive computers around a hacked operating system, with hopes that everything will work perfectly. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/22952-planning-on-building-a-mac-x86/#findComment-153805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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