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THE NEXT MAC OS X PANTHER

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Taliking to my teacher who is a devloper on the kernel and he was telling me that there will be a new release of a compltley diffrent kernel. THere getiing ready to switch from tiger to panther. Panther kernel supossedly blows away tiger kernel as far as speed is concerned. Also more stability with drivers and non MAC hardware.

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Taliking to my teacher who is a devloper on the kernel and he was telling me that there will be a new release of a compltley diffrent kernel. THere getiing ready to switch from tiger to panther. Panther kernel supossedly blows away tiger kernel as far as speed is concerned. Also more stability with drivers and non MAC hardware.

 

Do you mean Leopard? Panther for x86 was only internally developed.

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Yes, the OSx will and has been working on non MAC hardware drivers. Thats why your seing this big craze right now. Not because of the hardware but because of the software . All the hardware is to me is Pretty thats it and too expensive.

C'mon, man. Look at my sig. I know that already. Wow. ;)

 

OS X is illegally running on generic hardware at the moment with the use of hex edits, mostly, and the occasional custom driver. The question I was asking was whether the OP was implying that Apple would make Leopard officially available for generic, non-Apple, x86 systems (i.e.: Dell, et al).

 

EDIT: ROFL, OK, so you are the OP. :) OK, so did you mean that, based on your information, Apple's going to make OS X available for generic x86 systems?

heem
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ASk yourself that question ???? I will find out for sure but I am assuming yes there gonna see what people are doing with this and realize there is money to be made. Second, Im pretty sure of this because they are trying to intigrate with active directory . Well if they are going to do that then Corporations arent gonna buy the hardware for servers and the OS. Too much money , think about it companies have one main goal?? PROFIT

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ASk yourself that question ???? I will find out for sure but I am assuming yes there gonna see what people are doing with this and realize there is money to be made. Second, Im pretty sure of this because they are trying to intigrate with active directory . Well if they are going to do that then Corporations arent gonna buy the hardware for servers and the OS. Too much money , think about it companies have one main goal?? PROFIT

 

 

But I wonder if Apple is worried about existing Mac computer users stopping buying Apple computers which have high margins where Apple makes $500-$1000. Instead, they buy a less expensive PC and pay Apple $100 per year for MacOS X, essentially not paying Apple the $500-$1000 every 3 to 5 years.

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ASk yourself that question ???? I will find out for sure but I am assuming yes there gonna see what people are doing with this and realize there is money to be made. Second, Im pretty sure of this because they are trying to intigrate with active directory . Well if they are going to do that then Corporations arent gonna buy the hardware for servers and the OS. Too much money , think about it companies have one main goal?? PROFIT

Oh, I'm fairly certain that Apple will make OS X available on generic systems at some point, but that's just informed speculation and wishful thinking; however, you said:

Taliking to my teacher who is a devloper on the (OS X) kernel and he was telling me that there will be a new release of a compltley diffrent kernel. THere getiing ready to switch from tiger to panther. Panther kernel supossedly blows away tiger kernel as far as speed is concerned. Also more stability with drivers and non MAC hardware.

What I, and everyone else, wants to know is did your teacher, an OS X kernel developer, tell you that Apple will make the OS installable on generic hardware, from the likes of Dell, with the release Leopard?

 

Please man, just a simple yes or no would suffice. :D

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about this

i misunderstood smth?

Man... Apple hasn't may any statements. That story was based PURELY on speculation.

 

Apple hasn't updated x86 Darwin in a while, but that could mean anything, including the possibility that they're switching to another kernel, as the OP (and others, here, and in the industry) have pointed-out.

 

Besides which, getting OS X to run on generic hardware isn't contingent upon having access to the kernel sources.

 

Let's review a bit, shall we:

 

1) Rumours persisted, for years, that Apple was parallel developing OS X to run on the x86 architecture. It was almost universally dismissed as an urban legend, and preposterous.

 

2) Leading up to the x86 Transition Announcement, the rumours of it were dismissed as a preposterous urban legend.

 

3) Afterward, the inevitability of OSX86 being hacked to run on generic HW were dismissed as preposterous and technically impossible.

 

4) Who here remembers the recent New Yorker story, about the contingency plan the US military had in place, to use nuclear weapons against Iran, and how the US government said it was just that - a contingency plan? Contingency plans exist for a very good reason: prudent planning.

 

Apple, a publically traded company, can't officially formulate a contingency plan to release OS X for generic hardware: such information constitutes a trade secret that, if publically known, could undermine Apple's strategic interests and profitability. You can be sure, however, that such a plan exists, if only in the mind of Steve Jobs and, perhaps, a cadre of his most intimate confidants.

 

In any case, there is a ton of circumstantial evidence that suggests OS X will be released eventually. Only time will tell; however, those that say "never", are usually never right.

EgoDeath
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you know that they recently made the kernal closed source right?

so remember the hype about in 10.5 they plan to implement the windows API directly into the kernal to run win apps natively?

 

I figure they would have to make the kernal closed source to do this (kinda obvious..)

 

so does this prove that rumour?

 

Edit: ok i just realised that we are talking about the same thing, it would be cool if it where true though..

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Again, though: Apple hasn't said anything. That Mac World article was speculation, based on the fact that Apple hasn't updated the Darwin sources for a long time. Mac World concluded, based on the afore mentioned fact, that Apple must be planning on closing the kernel. That's not a news story, that's opinion.

 

Once again: Apple has not made a public statement saying anything.

heem
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Yea no problem I will find that out for you on monday. But I just have to voice my opinon some more and that is I really think Mac is trying to make there software for non mac hardware. Too many companies getting invoved especially Microsoft. As much as micro{censored} does not want this to happen there trying to push all these Vista media players and tests, etc. The point is we all know microsoft is a monopoly and always will be but that does not mean that the mac os and microsoft can't work together as they are now. Yea apple is not saying anything because there smart. They want these hacked versions out there and people just like my self will start to appreciate the operating system for what its worth. Each OS has its flaws just as comparing as well with linux. I dont see why they would not release a straight os , people still will by there hardware. That wont change anything I have to admit I would love the neiwest Mac laptop it just looks cool thats the only reason because I certainly dont like the specs for those prices . There just trying to gear the next generation ready .

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