Chrono86 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Who else has the problem of Mac OS X taking FOREVER to load? If you did and fixed it how did you do it? I've tried deleting the TPM file and booting with platform=(x86pc or acpi) and nothing seems to have helped. Any other ideas would be much appreciated to solve this problem. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Funk Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Mac boots slow has hell normally! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-8861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrono86 Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 Ok well that wasn't very productive, if you read the posts here lots of people claim it boots in as little as 30 seconds. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-8866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefffromdc Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 mine boots SO slow without platform=x86pc , but decently fast with it. unfortunately platform=x86pc disables my ps2 keyboard and mouse, so it's really of no use to me. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-8888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazor Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Mine boots very slow without platform=x86pc and panics with it. when i start up with -v, i get a message directly after the long pause where nothing is loaded from disc etc which contains something with IOKitWaitQuiet(): failed or similar. Tell me where the boot log is and I will give the whole error message. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-11678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffyWithTeeth Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Get to the boot options prompt, and do ? to see the options. Somewhere there should be about "Quiet boot", or similar. Try disabling that. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-11883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazor Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 yeah, but the error scrolls away to fast, i.e. the login window appears closely after that. isnt there any way to view the boot log, like in the console app? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-11944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathdude1284 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 I didn't apply anything and it loads pretty fast. It's probably one of the drivers and stuff trying to load but failing... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-11948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteice Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Run dmesg from a terminal, that's a log of the kernel's startup, but the error might occur after the kernel hands control over to launchd, at which point I have no idea about logging. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-11961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Hi, my installation also takes some time to startup. The main problem seams to be just after this message: AppleIntelPIIXPATA: ICH6 ATA/100 (CMD 0x1f0, CTR 0x3f4, IRQ 14, BM 0xffa0) AppleIntelPIIXPATA: 80-conductor cable not detected on primary channel Then nothings happening for some time and then: Still waiting for root device The again nothings happening for some time... Then the rest of the boot is quit speedy. I don't know what these messages actually mean. I am running a RSRock P4Dual-915GL MOBO, and the harddisk is set to "master" and OSX is installed on 3th partition, windows on 1st, 2nd is just formatted NTFS. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-12850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tek Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Hi, my installation also takes some time to startup. The main problem seams to be just after this message: AppleIntelPIIXPATA: ICH6 ATA/100 (CMD 0x1f0, CTR 0x3f4, IRQ 14, BM 0xffa0) AppleIntelPIIXPATA: 80-conductor cable not detected on primary channel Then nothings happening for some time and then: Still waiting for root device The again nothings happening for some time... Then the rest of the boot is quit speedy. I don't know what these messages actually mean. I am running a RSRock P4Dual-915GL MOBO, and the harddisk is set to "master" and OSX is installed on 3th partition, windows on 1st, 2nd is just formatted NTFS. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> '80-conductor cable not detected on primary channel' Why don't you get an 80 conductor IDE cable so that you're not running at ATA33 speeds? Replacing the cable may be all you need to do. You could go up to ATA133 speeds if you do. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-12861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Just FYI about people claiming that it's normal to boot slowly, on one of my PCs it boots in as little as 15 seconds (From the Darwin boot loader to actually being able to use OSX). On another computer it takes 20-25 seconds (A lot of stuff has been installed...) It sounds like you guys have the non-DMA issue/waiting for root device problem. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-13196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Just FYI about people claiming that it's normal to boot slowly, on one of my PCs it boots in as little as 15 seconds (From the Darwin boot loader to actually being able to use OSX). On another computer it takes 20-25 seconds (A lot of stuff has been installed...) It sounds like you guys have the non-DMA issue/waiting for root device problem. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree, my installation boots fast as well, I was amazed a few times to get the GUI back so fast after a reboot. So these issues must be elsewhere in local host configurations. If you can, do a native install with the patched DVD (Release 1 ppf) and you should be able to use ACPI too. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-13242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shriek Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Ok, I can install it in a partition a dual boot it in 30 minutes or so.... but then hell comes: it takes at least another 10-20 minutes to boot into Aqua... (I always use the -v because othewise I would have to wait too long and wouldn't know if it is at least loading) But the worst is that once on Aqua it is too slow to function.... slower than my PearPC emulation on a XP1500+ with 512MB RAM! (I'm using a Turion64 MT32 with 1GB RAM)... I tried to erase the AppleTPM extension and the ATI drivers and whenever I do this I won't be able to boot again (it just hangs or at least it is taking much longer then 20 minutes)... I tried also to "unpatch" the CoreGraphics because I have a SSE3 capable CPU but It also freezes the computer while booting. Usually it freezes in somekind of display failure... I will try to write it down... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-13367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucan#n# Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 I had a similar problem on my Acer Ferrari 4005 (Turion 64 2ghz)...I tried a native install on a 8 gb partition firstly with the <dd> mode using <tiger-x86.img> and configuring boot with the chain0 method...and then trying to install native with the marklar patched DVD...In the first case It takes half an hour to boot, OSX is unusable and the HDD is permanently in use...In the second case it tries to boot from DVD but it freezes after entering in graphics mode (i.e the splash screen). Could a USB HDD fix the problem? Has anyone tried it?? thanks ACER Ferrari 4005 Wlmi AMD Turion64 2ghz 1024 Mb DDR333 Graphics: ATI Radeon x700 PCIe Chipset : ATI XPRESS 200 HDD : 100Gb ATA100 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-16896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shriek Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 I had a similar problem on my Acer Ferrari 4005 (Turion 64 2ghz)...I tried a native install on a 8 gb partition firstly with the <dd> mode using <tiger-x86.img> and configuring boot with the chain0 method...and then trying to install native with the marklar patched DVD...In the first case It takes half an hour to boot, OSX is unusable and the HDD is permanently in use...In the second case it tries to boot from DVD but it freezes after entering in graphics mode (i.e the splash screen).Could a USB HDD fix the problem? Has anyone tried it?? thanks ACER Ferrari 4005 Wlmi AMD Turion64 2ghz 1024 Mb DDR333 Graphics: ATI Radeon x700 PCIe Chipset : ATI XPRESS 200 HDD : 100Gb ATA100 I have a USB HDD, but since I can't boot from it (there must be a glitch on my AMI BIOS that can only boot from a USB pendrive) I can't try it... I'll report as soon as I can install it... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-16991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishedfly Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 I have an AMD 64 3000+ socket 939 venice core, MSI RS480 motherboard, 1 gig of 3200 ram. It takes about 1 hour to get a response after i click something. Anyone know the problem or a boot setting i can do to make it faster. I've been checking on it every hour since last night and right now im just getting into finder. Im really hoping that after i delete the file for the chip, it will be much faster. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-18960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteice Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Try booting into single-user mode - hit the space bar at the Darwin boot screen and enter -s. Once it boots, run the 3 commands shown in the info message (/sbin/fsck -y && /sbin/mount -uw / && sh /etc/rc), then: rm -rf /System/Library/Extensions/AppleTPMACPI.kext rm -f /System/Library/Extensions/Extensions.mkext rm -f /System/Library/Extensions/Extensions.cache shutdown -r now Once it goes to the Darwin boot screen again, hit space and type platform=X86PC Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-18973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shriek Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Try booting into single-user mode - hit the space bar at the Darwin boot screen and enter -s. Once it boots, run the 3 commands shown in the info message (/sbin/fsck -y && /sbin/mount -uw / && sh /etc/rc), then: rm -rf /System/Library/Extensions/AppleTPMACPI.kext rm -f /System/Library/Extensions/Extensions.mkext rm -f /System/Library/Extensions/Extensions.cache shutdown -r now Once it goes to the Darwin boot screen again, hit space and type platform=X86PC Well, I deleted the TPM extension... (not the other 2) but as I have read untill now the problem might be with the chipset (in my case it is a ATI chipset) I'll try to delete the other two files also... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-18977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteice Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Yeah, it would be best to delete the other 2 files as well, the driver may be cached in them and still load. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-19055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie94 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Slow boot for me on my Toshiba L30-105 in signature... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-790990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
felsmann Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Slow boot here, on a Gigabyte P35 and Geforce 8600 GTS. What I found was that it has something to do with the video drivers. I know this because I tried three different video cards to get one that worked well with QE... Anyway in the process, every time I did not have a driver installed for the video card and booted in low resolution, it was FAST! 15 sec from Darwin max. Once I installed kexts for vide card, it stops in the middle of the boot to think for about a minute and then it continues to install to a fast stable machine. Small price to pay I guess. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/1436-post-here-if-you-boot-slow/#findComment-1015491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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