YureZzZ Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 First of all, maybe this is the wrong place to post, sorry for that. But I think guys here mostly concerned about the hardware, which is what I really need now. Preamble Yes I wanna buy MacBook (like there are people who doesn't on this forum). But I can't get it in my country - the cheapest model (old white non-aluminum non-pro) in official resellers stores cost around 1200-1300$. BTW, it is Russia. I needed a less than 14" laptop. (If it is 13" or more it is not comfortable to have it in my bag - which is making those computers NOT portable, so NOT laptops anymore.) So when I've got some money I've bought asus eee pc 900 lappy. Like it very much for it's price and size. Amble But as a Mac OS fan I wanted to install it. Here I'll skip lots of info on what I was trying to make it work on that machine (yeah, I even tried to patch/compile the kernel myself to make it work with my laptop's CPU which is <1GHz) And now, thanx to the Voodoo kernel team!!!, I have working Leopard on my, you can say weak, laptop. Yeah, it works without that annoying timing problem. BUT... (he-he there is always a fly in your jam can ) But I have no working internal sound (alc662 ver1), no ethenet(Atheros L2 Fast Ethernet) and no WiFi (Atheros AR5007EG). Which made me really sad ans sleepless(browsing the net in order to find a way to fix those things) for a few days... Now, I realised that if I can't get those parts to work - I wont just give up like I did before. I'll try some other stuff: -WiFi can be fixed with buying that famous Dell wireless card - which is nearly impossible in my country. -Soundcard - here is idea of the workaround - I'll try to buy the smallest usb sound card (like the ones used for skype) with just one mic input and one output - and I'll fit it inside the laptop case. -Ethernet - still have no ideas how to fix that. Maybe USB-ethernet card fitted inside the case. Maybe I'll use virtual machine under Mac OS, which will have some sort of small linux distro with drivers for it. This virtual machine idea is kinda good. Imagine you have all the internet related stuff inside the virtual machine - no viruses, no attacks, no more work for LittleSnitch(stopping unwanted traffic from some shareware programs, you know ). Of course this will eat up the system resources, but - hey! do you really do something massive and browse at the same time? Now when I told you all of this, maybe you can give me your ideas on the topic. All comments are highly welcome! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khan_Man Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 There is a thread that claims to have Atheros AR5007EG working, not well but working. You might want to check that out. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=138351 No wireless on a netbook would be very bad. USB sound is a good plan. Virtuallization would be deadly slow. Khan Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1013368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnaClocker Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 Shoulda gotten a Dell Mini9.. Just about everything is working on it now. Only thing you need to replace is the SSD because the one Dell ships with it won't wake from sleep, but replacements are cheap, and faster than the original anyways.. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1013435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YureZzZ Posted December 25, 2008 Author Share Posted December 25, 2008 Shoulda gotten a Dell Mini9.. Just about everything is working on it now. Only thing you need to replace is the SSD because the one Dell ships with it won't wake from sleep, but replacements are cheap, and faster than the original anyways.. There were no other netbooks in the market when I bought my eee. Next time when I have money I'll buy something more compatible, or MacBook But for now I have to get this baby working! No wireless on a netbook would be very bad. USB sound is a good plan. Virtuallization would be deadly slow. Wireless is not much needed for now, I mostly suffer without ethernet. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1013436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YureZzZ Posted December 25, 2008 Author Share Posted December 25, 2008 Virtualization method - Bad news Parallels doesn't support hardware which doesn't have drivers installed in Mac OS... Looking for another solution. For the network I guess the only way is to get that Dell wireless card + small router, so I can connect normal ethernet to it when I need. For the sound I've found another solution - bluetooth stereo headset. This way I don't need to hack laptop much + I can use it with my nokia Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1013743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick14 Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 Get a Vostro 1310 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1013926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.C. Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 MSI Wind..everything OOTB. except Mic that is Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1013942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YureZzZ Posted December 25, 2008 Author Share Posted December 25, 2008 Is it possible to strip Leo down to 4 gigs? Or how to mount /System to another disk? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1014034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick14 Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 Yes but get IPC instead Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1014085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YureZzZ Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 Yes but get IPC instead IPC as an other laptop? Nope, thanx I'm not giving up on this one. And how do I strip it down? Xslimmer+Monolingual freed around 1 Gb. Need more. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1014172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnaClocker Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 4gb? No.. 4.5gb, I've heard of it being done with large sacrifices. I got down to 5.5 no problem. As for Parallels, get version 3, it works fine on an Atom CPU. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1014179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YureZzZ Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 4gb? No.. 4.5gb, I've heard of it being done with large sacrifices. I got down to 5.5 no problem. As for Parallels, get version 3, it works fine on an Atom CPU. Tell me how did you do that? Parallels work fine on my Celeron M ULV (not Atom), but it doesn't want to recognize hardware which Leopard doesn't recognize itself. So no luck. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1014185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xomp Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Helloski, I am how you say.... Russian Guyovitz!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1014202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YureZzZ Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 Vodka and the bear on the chain... Yah, Yah, Das Ist Fantastisch! Wundernischen! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1014318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnaClocker Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I don't know man, even on my desktop Atom machine where the CPU comes up as "Unknown", Parallels 3 works like a champ, no problems. Parallels 4 says no, due to not having VTx.. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1014366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YureZzZ Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 I think we don't really got same point. What I mean is that lets say you don't have working kexts for your lan. Then you install Linux in your virtual machine WITH drivers for it and you can use it inside it. When I run Parallels it says something like - if you wanna add hardware to your virtual machine - find the kext for it. Isn't it? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1014394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick14 Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 IPC as an other laptop? Nope, thanx I'm not giving up on this one. And how do I strip it down? Xslimmer+Monolingual freed around 1 Gb. Need more. IPC Is an installer Disc like kalyway But you can delete xcode and And printer drivers Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1014566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YureZzZ Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 So it is going to be Live version of mac os? No thanks, I want my settings, and it also is slower than installed mac. So "no-go". Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1014580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YureZzZ Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 Strange - just when I started to digg seriously about getting this lappy to work - guess what? I received money which is enough to buy Msi Wind. So what do you think - should I? Or maybe I can still make eee pc works flawless? So far I got the plan for getting it work. I need: to install 1.8" SATA HDD inside to install different ultra small sound card, like skype headset inside to replace my wifi card with dell's wifi to buy usb ethernet card All of this is going to be like half or even more than half of the wind price.... thinking.... Update: Xbench scores are almost the same (when I use USB HDD)... even more thinking... He-he netbook without a net... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1015140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YureZzZ Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 It seems that I've found solution for the slow SSD. It is software RAID (fake RAID) 0 array of usb flash disks I'll try that when I got some flash disks. Or maybe SSD disks also. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1016923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick14 Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Strange - just when I started to digg seriously about getting this lappy to work - guess what? I received money which is enough to buy Msi Wind. So what do you think - should I? Or maybe I can still make eee pc works flawless? So far I got the plan for getting it work. I need: to install 1.8" SATA HDD inside to install different ultra small sound card, like skype headset inside to replace my wifi card with dell's wifi to buy usb ethernet card All of this is going to be like half or even more than half of the wind price.... thinking.... Update: Xbench scores are almost the same (when I use USB HDD)... even more thinking... He-he netbook without a net... Do it Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1016967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 will the dell mini 12 rund good as the dell mini 9 ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1017069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YureZzZ Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Do it What exactly? Get Wind? Or hack my eee? RAID is working only on HDD or SSD, not usb disks. Can't boot from it though.... Looking for another ideas. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1017141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnaClocker Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 will the dell mini 12 rund good as the dell mini 9 ? No. The Mini12 has it's ram hard soldered to the board. It's stuck at 1GB and cannot be upgraded. The Mini9 runs 2gb of ram just fine, normal 2GB SoDIMMs. The Mini12 has a GMA500 video chipset, OS X does not support that, there are no drivers for it, no Mac has ever used a GMA500. The Mini9 uses standard GMA950 video. Just like some of the MacBooks, and the Mac Mini. It works great. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1017341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 ok thank you very much.. so i get me a dell mini 9 and a new ssd drive (so sleep works), do i need a 1.8 or 2.5 SSD ? THX Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/142816-the-cheapest-and-the-smallest-macbook-ever/#findComment-1017471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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