AfxTwn Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Hi, I apologise if this has already been covered in the forum but I was wondering if a VMWare install of OSX was a good alternative for those of us who have trouble installing OSX natively on our systems? I have been trying for weeks to get OSX on my AMD PC with no success due to a boot0 error and so now I am considering downloading VMWare and installing OSX that way to run alongside my XP. I primarily want to use OSX to try out GarageBand (if I am convinced enough then I will go out and buy a proper mac along with iLife). I am not sure if I can run the iLife program in VMWare and I have read that VMWare can be sluggish but I would imagine that would depend on your system specs (I have an AMD 64 X2 4600+, ASRock ALiveNF5-eSATA2+R3.0 motherboard, 2GB of RAM, GeForce 6600 graphics and 2x SATA2 200GB hard drives). Could anyone advise me either way please. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/119319-vmware-a-viable-alternative-to-a-native-install/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espionage724 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 If u install OS X inside VMware i'm pretty sure you still need to have a supported CPU. Also it's an ok alternative but theres no CI/QE (which means no movies or games) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/119319-vmware-a-viable-alternative-to-a-native-install/#findComment-844996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
justsome Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 If u install OS X inside VMware i'm pretty sure you still need to have a supported CPU. Also it's an ok alternative but theres no CI/QE (which means no movies or games) I have no clue what CI/QE means but I can watch videos fine? Dunno about games haven't tried. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/119319-vmware-a-viable-alternative-to-a-native-install/#findComment-846364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdb424 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I have one on my macbook pro for fun. They are pretty much useless unfortunately. They donn't run well unless you have some major horses under the hood. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/119319-vmware-a-viable-alternative-to-a-native-install/#findComment-846407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alucard69 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I can say on the CPU remark that an earlier poster made is not entirely true. I have used VMware and it Simulates the CPU, so while you have a Dual-Core AMD VMware might use a virtual CPU that would work. I don't think you pick the CPU and I personally haven't ran VMware under an AMD system. I would say your best bet is to try it out and see if works out for you. You might also be able to find an already made Virtual Machine that has MAC OS X on it that you could use so you don't have to sit through installing the OS. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/119319-vmware-a-viable-alternative-to-a-native-install/#findComment-846412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdb424 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I might have an install with no internet, but working great. If anyone needs any "help" let me know. I'm not just going to give away the Virtual machine as that would be illegal, but I can offer help. Yea VMware emulates it's own CPU, and it emulates intel. The number one hint I can give when installing iatkos into vmware is to install with the operating system "other" and run it as "windows NT". Weird, but stops the kernel panics. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/119319-vmware-a-viable-alternative-to-a-native-install/#findComment-846421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lase Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I've found it to be incredibly slow so I installed 10.4.8 natively and it ran extremely faster :S Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/119319-vmware-a-viable-alternative-to-a-native-install/#findComment-846479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdb424 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Mine hangs, and has lots of problems. Installing it can be a huge accomplishment, just like installing it on a PC, only with worse results. lol. Someone will eventually hack VMware fusion to make the mac server option support mac desktop, and then port that option to other versions of vmware I assume, but that's a while away. My useless install! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/119319-vmware-a-viable-alternative-to-a-native-install/#findComment-846489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I can say on the CPU remark that an earlier poster made is not entirely true. I have used VMware and it Simulates the CPU, so while you have a Dual-Core AMD VMware might use a virtual CPU that would work. I don't think you pick the CPU and I personally haven't ran VMware under an AMD system. I would say your best bet is to try it out and see if works out for you. You might also be able to find an already made Virtual Machine that has MAC OS X on it that you could use so you don't have to sit through installing the OS. Sorry but that isn't right. VMware does not simulate a CPU it virtualizes it. So if you CPU isn't 64-bit or isn't SSE3 enabled it will show up as such in the guest. If you have a CPU that isn't supported directly by Apple then you will need to use a Hackintosh version e.g. JaS, iAtkos etc. If it is a supported CPU I have now posted instruction for using retail Leopard on VMware. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/119319-vmware-a-viable-alternative-to-a-native-install/#findComment-846961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdb424 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Sorry but that isn't right. VMware does not simulate a CPU it virtualizes it. So if you CPU isn't 64-bit or isn't SSE3 enabled it will show up as such in the guest. If you have a CPU that isn't supported directly by Apple then you will need to use a Hackintosh version e.g. JaS, iAtkos etc. If it is a supported CPU I have now posted instruction for using retail Leopard on VMware. I agree. The apple official disks won't work on VMware fusion in the mac though. lol Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/119319-vmware-a-viable-alternative-to-a-native-install/#findComment-847399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTS Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Mine hangs, and has lots of problems. Installing it can be a huge accomplishment, just like installing it on a PC, only with worse results. lol. Someone will eventually hack VMware fusion to make the mac server option support mac desktop, and then port that option to other versions of vmware I assume, but that's a while away. My useless install! -removed to save space- I'm away on holidays, thus away from my haxx0r'd Leopard install disks, but I found time to install the latest VMware Fusion 2 Beta. The Darwin/OS X VMware Tools is in /Library/Applications Support/VMware Fusion/isoimages/darwin.iso I've mounted it and ran the installer up to the point where it actually says install and it didn't moan about not being on Leopard Server. Could you try mounting the ISO in your VM, install VMware Tools and post results? EDIT: Scratch all that, just found Donk's thread. Damn and blast. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/119319-vmware-a-viable-alternative-to-a-native-install/#findComment-847504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdb424 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Mine bitched about it being not server edition on startup. No idea how to fix that. No fun to run, but a great deal of fun to get installed. lol Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/119319-vmware-a-viable-alternative-to-a-native-install/#findComment-847570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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