Dewdman42 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I am starting to wonder if I am missing some aspect in my install. I recently submitted a Geekbench result to their website. When I was looking around for comparisons I found someone else with the same cpu and overclock getting a significantly better result. When I looked closer I could see that his system was identified as being a 64bit platform, but mine was identified as being a 32bit platform. For some reason I thought I was 64bit already. I'm beginning to think that perhaps there is some configuration I am missing out on to make sure I'm running Leopard at 64bit. Does anyone know anything about this or more about how Geekbench would identify my system as 32bit vs the other guy's being identified as 64bit? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I am starting to wonder if I am missing some aspect in my install. I recently submitted a Geekbench result to their website. When I was looking around for comparisons I found someone else with the same cpu and overclock getting a significantly better result. When I looked closer I could see that his system was identified as being a 64bit platform, but mine was identified as being a 32bit platform. For some reason I thought I was 64bit already. I'm beginning to think that perhaps there is some configuration I am missing out on to make sure I'm running Leopard at 64bit. Does anyone know anything about this or more about how Geekbench would identify my system as 32bit vs the other guy's being identified as 64bit? Unless you have paid for it Geekbench only runs the 32bit tests, as well Leopard is a 32/64bit mixed system it can run 64bit binaries but the vast majority of programs you can get for it are only 32bit. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/#findComment-806447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 Ah, that explains it. So in theory if I pay for Geekbench I might see a better number. No worries..thanks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/#findComment-806452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Ah, that explains it. So in theory if I pay for Geekbench I might see a better number. No worries..thanks. Definitely I get a little lower than you on a 32bit and around 67?? for 64bit you would probably get about 68?? as it seems to scale linearly with cpu speed in my experience using it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/#findComment-806466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 I am getting around 6400 with 32bit and the other guy with similar cpu was getting 6800, so not insignificant, especially since mine is overclocked a little higher than his. The two biggest areas of improvement under 64bit are integers and streaming Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/#findComment-806467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacUser2525 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I am getting around 6400 with 32bit and the other buy with similar cpu was getting 6800, so not insignificant. the two biggest areas of improvement under 64bit are integers and streaming Exactly the 64bit instructions do better in those areas of the test. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/#findComment-806468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitallysick Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 switch to a 64bit kernel modbin kernel i did, works great Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/#findComment-806567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gujal Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 switch to a 64bit kernel modbin kernel i did, works great That is for amd64 CPUs. Vanilla kernel works fine on EM64T CPUs such as Q6600 which Dewdman42 uses Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/#findComment-806594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 I've always wondered what the modbin kernel is for. Anyway, right now I'm using netkas sleepkernel and I think I'll stick with that for now. Thanks for the clarification guys. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/#findComment-806638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitallysick Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I run the modbin kernel and i have a core2duo intel, before with vanilla i couldn't run geekbench 64, i changed to modbin and now i can without issue. try it and see Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/#findComment-807066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 well since I don't have geekbench64 because I haven't paid for it, I can't run that test anyway. That's interesting about modbin though. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/#findComment-807317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitallysick Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Here ya go, when it asks to purchase just hit either cancel or quit it should still run without issue. If you can run this, then you have the 64bit kernel, if not, then you need modbin, it will improve your overall score Geekbench 64 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/#findComment-807384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 Holy smokes batman. My Geekbench score soared to 7221 with the 64bit version of geekbench. I guess modbin kernel, whatever that is, is not necessary for me. So I guess this simply means that clean 64bit apps will run faster on my machine than the 32bit apps, which most of them probably still are. Its all good. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/#findComment-807407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gujal Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Simplest test is to run the included Chess Game and go into Activity Monitor and see if Chess is running in 64 bit mode. It is the only 64 bit app to be bundled with the OS (I may be wrong) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/113863-64bit-vs-32bit-osx86/#findComment-807506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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