juan0r Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 My AMD Sempron 3000 system works just fine (10.4.5 - latest security update). Sound works, lan works, usb works and my Connect3D ATi Radeon 9550 is detected and (i think) accelerated after a slight modification of the *9700.kext. I (as I guess all ATi users) have the wellknown mousetearing but a free license from Boinx made it bareable. Now to my question. I know I dont have a highend system but from the database of Xbench I tend to think that my Xbench score is unusually low? Could someone with a comparable system specs (see below) make a benchmark and post the results so I have a viable value to compare with. CPU: AMD Sempron 3000 (shows as 4 Ghz in about this mac for some reason) Chipset: VIA K8M800, VIA SATA (Working with 10.4.3 kext) Graphics: AGP X8 Connect3D ATi Radeon 9550 256Mb (memory correctly detected but listed as PCI card) Xbench: Results 26.79 System Info Xbench Version 1.2 System Version 10.4.5 (8G1454) Physical RAM 768 MB Model ADP2,1 Drive Type ST3120026A CPU Test 62.21 GCD Loop 100.72 5.31 Mops/sec Floating Point Basic 74.44 1.77 Gflop/sec vecLib FFT 37.95 1.25 Gflop/sec Floating Point Library 68.56 11.94 Mops/sec Thread Test 62.98 Computation 45.26 916.82 Kops/sec, 4 threads Lock Contention 103.53 4.45 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads Memory Test 57.27 System 46.67 Allocate 139.24 511.35 Kalloc/sec Fill 33.09 1608.68 MB/sec Copy 37.21 768.62 MB/sec Stream 74.08 Copy 72.88 1505.37 MB/sec Scale 72.74 1502.85 MB/sec Add 75.38 1605.72 MB/sec Triad 75.41 1613.23 MB/sec Quartz Graphics Test 18.54 Line 24.83 1.65 Klines/sec [50% alpha] Rectangle 8.51 2.54 Krects/sec [50% alpha] Circle 14.02 1.14 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha] Bezier 56.40 1.42 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha] Text 43.89 2.75 Kchars/sec OpenGL Graphics Test 55.09 Spinning Squares 55.09 69.89 frames/sec User Interface Test 8.23 Elements 8.23 37.76 refresh/sec Disk Test 54.79 Sequential 101.48 Uncached Write 106.61 65.46 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 98.93 55.97 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 91.81 26.87 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 110.65 55.61 MB/sec [256K blocks] Random 37.53 Uncached Write 13.34 1.41 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 74.98 24.00 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 92.07 0.65 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 134.95 25.04 MB/sec [256K blocks] Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11155-unusually-low-xbench-scores/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Install the developer tools, run Quartz Debug (in Developer/Applications/Performance Tools/), go to the Tools menu and select Beam Syncing or Hit Command-B, turn it off. Rerun and look at User Interface and Quartz tests. Keep the App running, it resets it every time you close it btw... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11155-unusually-low-xbench-scores/#findComment-69760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan0r Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Thanks! Did it and gained double perfomance in userinterface tests and improved quartz test. Still I'm only at 33.3something all in all. Is this what should be expected from my hardware or are there any other obviouse bottlenecks? Also is there a way to permanently disable the beamsyncing? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11155-unusually-low-xbench-scores/#findComment-69788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Results 80.22 System Info Xbench Version 1.2 System Version 10.4.5 (8G1454) Physical RAM 1024 MB Model ADP2,1 Drive Type WDC WD800JB-00CRA1 CPU Test 63.97 GCD Loop 90.31 4.76 Mops/sec Floating Point Basic 72.91 1.73 Gflop/sec vecLib FFT 46.79 1.54 Gflop/sec Floating Point Library 61.07 10.63 Mops/sec Thread Test 89.08 Computation 77.42 1.57 Mops/sec, 4 threads Lock Contention 104.86 4.51 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads Memory Test 103.38 System 81.65 Allocate 50.73 186.29 Kalloc/sec Fill 122.96 5978.67 MB/sec Copy 112.37 2321.00 MB/sec Stream 140.90 Copy 136.13 2811.73 MB/sec Scale 134.62 2781.14 MB/sec Add 147.63 3144.89 MB/sec Triad 146.18 3127.06 MB/sec Quartz Graphics Test 90.89 Line 92.55 6.16 Klines/sec [50% alpha] Rectangle 84.37 25.19 Krects/sec [50% alpha] Circle 84.56 6.89 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha] Bezier 92.00 2.32 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha] Text 103.55 6.48 Kchars/sec OpenGL Graphics Test 78.74 Spinning Squares 78.74 99.89 frames/sec User Interface Test 114.90 Elements 114.90 527.32 refresh/sec Disk Test 54.59 Sequential 80.85 Uncached Write 72.60 44.57 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 81.02 45.84 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 82.49 24.14 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 89.03 44.74 MB/sec [256K blocks] Random 41.21 Uncached Write 15.43 1.63 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 76.73 24.56 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 90.58 0.64 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 122.03 22.64 MB/sec [256K blocks] These are my results from the other night, my specs are; 2.8 Prescott @ 3.05GHz 1gb Dual Channel ddr ram ati 9800SE 128mb card 7200rpm 80GB ATA drive I also wouldnt put too much value into the results from xBench, how's the system feel? Does anything feel slow, like graphics or copying files or using itunes? Looking at your post again, it looks like you biggest problem is the memeory speed. Which should not slow down your using the system for everyday stuff... Remember the PowerPC chips has seriously slow memory buses too. And no, there's no way I know of turning it off. Since I rarely shut down my system now its not much a problem for me, but perhaps someone else has a suggestiong to disable the beam sync thing without having to open the app and all that. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11155-unusually-low-xbench-scores/#findComment-69851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiberia Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 my xbench scores around 40-45, in 10.4.3, 10.4.4 and 10.4.5. However, my machine feels nice and fast (faster than windows running on the same machine). I wouldn't worry about it too much. Like Bug said, as long as your system isn't dragging, as long as it feels fast, then don't put too much faith in statistics. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11155-unusually-low-xbench-scores/#findComment-69855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan0r Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Thanks for all replies. My problem is that the system does feel a bit lagged. It's certainly slower graphicswise compared to Windows XP. It turned a bit better after I turned the beamsync off and also (maybe a placebo effect) after enabling Quartz 2D Extreme. Still it's sort of laggy. When I compare my results with yours I see the biggest differance in the userinterface and quartz tests, leading me to belive its a problem with my graphics adapter. Alltho I see you also have a Radeon (a 9800 compared to my 9550). Are there any other tests I can perfom to find out if I have activated the ati-driver as far as it can be without the atiframebuffer thing everyone is talking about? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11155-unusually-low-xbench-scores/#findComment-69865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouch Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Xbench scores on intel are seriously flawed - i'm running a macbook pro 1.83 with 1gig RAM and i only get about 50. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11155-unusually-low-xbench-scores/#findComment-69870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Check in the System Profiler, look under Graphics to see if QE CI are enabled. That'll tell you right there if your card is actually accelerating anything. Since it's a 9550 you might have to edit the ATI9700 kext file, there are threads on how to do it. Its not hard at all, I'm editing the kext's and plist files daily to try to get rid of the mouse tearing. Just some advice: BACK UP THE FILES when you edit anything. That way you can start in single user mode (-s on startup params) and change them back if you get a black screen or a kernel panic. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11155-unusually-low-xbench-scores/#findComment-69872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan0r Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 I edited the appropriate kext and got both CI and QE working so I assume I did it right. I guess I'll have to wait for the openati projects framebuffer to really experiance full acceleration, but so do we all with ATi adapters I guess. Is the startup log saved anywhere? I try to read the info there but I get to the GUI so fast that I miss alot each time. I tried finding it in /var/logs but to no avail. I think I see something about displayfamily in the messages but just after that I boot into GUI. Maybe that can give me some sort of clue. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11155-unusually-low-xbench-scores/#findComment-69936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjr1028 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 xbench itself is subpar. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11155-unusually-low-xbench-scores/#findComment-69939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Can any of you explain the factors that influence the "User Interface Test?" In the two examples here, we have one machine at 114 and the other at 8. Mine's always been closer to the 8. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11155-unusually-low-xbench-scores/#findComment-69951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marliwahoo Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 It looks like quartz/open gl are really dragging you down. The rest of the numbers are good. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11155-unusually-low-xbench-scores/#findComment-70035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maq Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 my xbench disk test scores are horrendous..somewhere around 1 - I stopped the test because it was taking so long Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11155-unusually-low-xbench-scores/#findComment-70365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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