chiefsalami Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Anyone had a look at OpenOSX's Wintel 2.1.1? It's a universal binary and is supposed to run at very good speeds on the iMac Core Duo. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pu7o Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 That's just a pretty GUI around QEMU. You get the exact same speeds with WinTel as you get with the free Q. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-64159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefsalami Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 Strange, because I tried Q and when I tried to start up a new virtual machine I had just created, it would just crash. It didn't seem to work on my new iMac Intel. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-64319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Strange, because I tried Q and when I tried to start up a new virtual machine I had just created, it would just crash. It didn't seem to work on my new iMac Intel. You need to download the latest unstable build. Beware that Windows XP setup doesn't work under Q yet. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-64332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefsalami Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 Yep, you're right. I just figured out that I needed the "unstable" build for it to work on the iMac. Thanks, Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-64345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Nonny Moose Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 You mean Opan OSX WinTel? From what I've heard, it's evilly slow and only parts of it are universal. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-64448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJägermeister Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 That's just a pretty GUI around QEMU. You get the exact same speeds with WinTel as you get with the free Q. It's Bochs not Qemu and it's only fast enough for W95 or DOS. http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?sh...c=7034&hl=bochs EDIT: Pu7o, you are right they replaced Bochs with QEMU now Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-64555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny_T Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Whatever you do, do not touch OpenOS X stuff with a barge pole. Read the reviews about them at e.g. macupdate.com or versiontracker.com - they just repackage OSS and sell it along with really shoddy user support. If you want to pay anything for QEMU or Bochs, just donate to the OSS projects themselves. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-64625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJägermeister Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 OpenOSX (they aren't "open") is making money by selling open-source software with a GUI or other small modifications. This is legal but not really cool. Fink Relations with OpenOSX: http://fink.sourceforge.net/pr/openosx.php Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-64632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
torncanvas Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 It's Bochs not Qemu and it's only fast enough for W95 or DOS.http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?sh...c=7034&hl=bochs EDIT: Pu7o, you are right they replaced Bochs with QEMU now Yeah, it's built on QEMU. Doesn't have other changes though that QEMU doesn't have? Or is it all straight up QEMU? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-64891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pu7o Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 It is all "straight up QEMU". Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-64992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefsalami Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 It's Bochs not Qemu and it's only fast enough for W95 or DOS.http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?sh...c=7034&hl=bochs EDIT: Pu7o, you are right they replaced Bochs with QEMU now Supposedly it runs native on the Intel Macs and I guess it's universal because they claim they can run Windows XP at near-native speeds. Check it out here: www.openosx.com/wintel Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-65010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny_T Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 What they claim and what the reality is are two very different things. It is native only in the sense that the front end is supposedly compiled as an UB. Just read the reviews around the web about WinTel and forget it - the guy selling it is a complete charlatan. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-65376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJägermeister Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Supposedly it runs native on the Intel Macs and I guess it's universal because they claim they can run Windows XP at near-native speeds. Check it out here: www.openosx.com/wintel It never run near-native speed, that's utopia. OpenOSX haven't done anything for the bochs or qemu code itself, they only made GUIs. It runs like qemu without kqemu accelerator module in Linux or MS: slow. Use Q if you want it, it's the same and it's free. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-65403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciparis Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 You need to download the latest unstable build. Beware that Windows XP setup doesn't work under Q yet. It doesn't work under WinTel either -- no surprise since it's just the same open source package passed off as their own. Not only did they contribute nothing to the product they're trying to make money off of, they can't supply a version able to install XP until Q's author fixes the bugs in Qemu under OS X x86 (so they can rip that off as well). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-65738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefsalami Posted March 1, 2006 Author Share Posted March 1, 2006 Interesting thoughts, guys. I have been using Q, which is flakey, but does work in the end. Right now I have only been able to go through the process for Windows 2000, since the XP install does not work. But I am going to dig up a version of XP I had installed through Virtual PC and see if I can use the "convert" ability that Q has to have a running version of XP working. Then I want to use it's files for WINE, and hopefully have more complete support for programs running natively within OS X. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-66461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny_T Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Here is one description of how to get XP running under Q on the intel Macs: The workaround: Get the windows version of QEMU, and create a guest PC in that. You can then transfer that image to the Intel Mac, and it will work!! The main problem was that I only have an old Pentium 3 650 Mhz PC, and to install XP, it took... wait for it.... 9.5 hours!!!!!!! BUT, it was worth it, and I now have XP running on my Core Duo. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-66502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefsalami Posted March 1, 2006 Author Share Posted March 1, 2006 yikes... I have a late-model PC that will do it a lot faster. I was going to get it going through VPC to Q, but using QEMU is also a very good idea. Thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-66607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuruu Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 just because i was curious, i tried openosx 2.1.1 and it is dog slow... and it says it is MacBochs Version 2.2.5 with a wrapper... nothing special at all... one day we will have fast emulation, right? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-76815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpolster2005 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Wow what a rip off WinTel is. Its based on open source they shouldnt be allowed to charge for it cause open source is free software. dont they have to provide you with a free download if they want to call it open source Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10284-how-about-wintel-211/#findComment-94417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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