Jared Kipe Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 This is more of an update to this thread, but I have seen many people suffer from this problem but never find my thread. http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?sh...752entry63752 I will skip the part that has already been said on that thread. Here lies the instructions for booting without a cd off your hard drive after a fresh install of 10.4.4 or even 10.4.5 (I've done both) Obtain a copy of the Darwin 8.0.1 boot CD from http://opendarwin.org/ burn it to a CD. Boot off the cd, you'll press enter twice, once to see boot options second time to start the booting from the CD. @ Which device.... shell <return> @shell (you'll need to know what disk you're going to be using, for me and I hope everyone its disk0) fdisk -u /dev/rdisk0 <return> y <return> fdisk -e /dev/rdisk0 <return> print <return> (this is to find which volume your HFS+ is, for me its 1) flag 1 <return> write <return> quit <return> reboot <return>(take out the CD) At this point you'll see the dreaded grey underscore. Let it sit for a little while, it will pull up the darwin bootloader, again let it sit and it should boot your 10.4.4 or 10.4.5 install. Have yourself a cookie, probably wouldn't hurt to repair permissions, since we do that enough around here. Cheers (and someone PM me a freaking ac97.kext, I think I deserve my cookie ) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinc Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 The download's pretty big, but this looks promising. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Kipe Posted February 26, 2006 Author Share Posted February 26, 2006 Guess I'm kinda spoiled with my cable internet, I downloaded the CD in about 2 min. Maybe thats the sound of the server getting hit as people go to look for that CD image. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggleface Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 ..... At this point you'll see the dreaded grey underscore. Let it sit for a little while, it will pull up the darwin bootloader, again let it sit and it should boot your 10.4.4 or 10.4.5 install. .... Thanks for your suggestions! Okay so done all that! ...i had to boot the Darwin CD and do everything in Vmware, targetting an actual hard drive, (rdisk0s2) cuz my laptop Toshiba M45 can't boot the Darwin CD or Mac install disc) Anyways, now... When I boot my computer now (native) I get the blinking cursor... how long do I have to wait for the Darwin Bootloader to load??? Already waited 5 minutes and counting... doesn't look like its working... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Kipe Posted February 26, 2006 Author Share Posted February 26, 2006 Sounds like it isn't. But there are other problems for running it in VMWARE, you need the whole applesmbios file thing. This bootloader is for a naitive install I don't know what will happen in vmware, I've never used it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggleface Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Sounds like it isn't. But there are other problems for running it in VMWARE, you need the whole applesmbios file thing. This bootloader is for a naitive install I don't know what will happen in vmware, I've never used it. yeps im doing a native install... except i can't install native cuz my cd drive gives an apple.com.plist error from booting a cd (darwin can't seem to find the cd)... anyways, i was using vmware mounting my entire hd as the harddrive within vmware so its still technically native... ur instructions outlined exectuted perfectly - the mbr on my hd really changed... i get a blinking cursor when i reboot (natively) but yet... i can't boot into mac... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrunix Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Why don't you try directly 10.4.5 : works fine? MacOSX 10.4.4DVD Final ppf with 10.4.5 update : you need a DVD iso found at Dem's... you obtain : Mac OS X 10.4.5 (8G1454) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Kipe Posted February 26, 2006 Author Share Posted February 26, 2006 A problem I had with 10.4.5, I can't get the monitor to resize from inside OSX, only manually through editing the boot.plist. Is that changed with this install? Otherwise I'm gonna recomend that the person I give this computer to stays with 10.4.4. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggleface Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 don't think i'll try to attempt 10.4.5 update atm until i get 10.4.4 workin... ...about to give up... after 4 days of nothing to see... dunno y the jas 10.4.3 is so easy to install and 10.4.4 is just soooo difficult and can't seem to boot... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Kipe Posted February 26, 2006 Author Share Posted February 26, 2006 giggle, PM me your hardware please I'll see what I can do. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleSoft Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Does your suggestion here work with a dual boot situation? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Kipe Posted February 26, 2006 Author Share Posted February 26, 2006 Maybe, mine waits for a while so if you press a button durring th Darwin thing you might be able to do rd=disk0s2 or whatever your windows disk and partition number is. You'll have to try, I'm not dual booting this. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleSoft Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Ok just out of curiosity do you know of how to dual boot 10.4.4? Or a tutorial to do it. I couldn't find one for 10.4.4 on the wiki. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canglan Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Thank you Jared Kipe for helping us on this issue. Actually, I was reading the comments on d.e.m.o.n.o.i.d last night, and found that people already got a simple working solution for it. If you still stuck on a blank screen (no bootloader), go search for "Hiren's Boot CD", and use Boot Magic for the first boot. It will boot into Mac OS X for you, after that you don't even need Boot Magic anymore, it will just automatically boot it for you. I personally haven't tried this method yet because I'm stilling waiting for the incremental PPF patch for 10.4.4->10.4.5, but from the comments on d.e.m.o.n.o.i.d, it looks very promosing. So go try it. :-) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggleface Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 yay! figured out how to write a new darwin bootloader! after searching through the forums, one solution works! use these commands: bless -device /dev/diskXsY -startupfile /usr/standalone/i386/boot bless -folder /Volumes/macosx-10.4.4 -bootBlockFile /usr/standalone/i386/boot1h -setBoot tested and it works http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=9553&hl= you need a working 10.4.3 on one partition somewhere (or vmware) and the commands targets the 10.4.4 and writes a brand new darwin bootloader! after that, you just need to install an os selector (acronis or hiren's boot cd) to choose between windows and mac and works like a charm Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinc Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I've tried the first thing the OP suggested, didn't work Then I tried the Boot Magic, didn't work (but it wasn't my first boot after a fresh install) I dunno what to do anymore. I've edited my boot.plist and everything but nada. It only works with the F8 trick. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Kipe Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 I have Hiren's Boot CD, and already tried Boot Magic, didn't work for me. This did, so who knows maybe different hardware and what not. Sill have the problem that doesn't let me use more than one chip of RAM on my board. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinc Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I think I've found something here: http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=10313 Maybe doing a bless while in the darwin boot cd will work, but how do you unbless that EFI stuff? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Bear Helms Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I installed a boot manager in replacement of the MBR from one of Hiren's partition programs that is text only. I forgot which one. Anyhow, it let me replace the MBR with a very crude boot manager that simply prompts "HD1/1...." and adds dots for whatever timeout you set. Also, it can be set to always prompt, always assume a default, whichever you prefer. I have XP on HD1/1 (default) and press 2 for HD1/2 which is OS X 10.4.4, and press 3 for the small partition with 10.4.3 on it. I really need a way to boot an install DVD despite there being valid OS X partitions on the hard drive. Right now the best I've managed is a Boot: prompt I can't talk to because the damned I/O for USB keyboards isn't working at that stage of booting... I have no PS/2 keyboard... argh! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Kipe Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 How can you not boot off an install DVD after installing? Ususally if you press F8 while the computer is posting, you can select the boot drive. I've always been able to boot of a CD/DVD. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiddude Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Ok it never says anything about 10.4.4 rebooting automatically after it installs on the partition you chose. After it restarts it gives me a can't boot system error. My system info is below. I have no problem booting to 10.4.3 but I don't get the selection in the startup disk preference of my other drive. I have even blessed it and still nothing. If I do bless it and it does decide to startup from the 10.4.4 drive I get that system error right before it has a chance to go to the darwin options. It is right after the bios finishes its onscreen info. Is this error because it is trying to boot into EFI? How do I switch it to use the darwin boot loader or whatever it is called. Do I have to use the Darwin installer disk and boot from that to create the darwin boot loader? Can I do this from 10.4.3 somehow?? I have the 10.4.4 patches and have the Please help if you can I would really like to get this running and do some testing with it. boiddude AMD 3500+ ASUS KA8N SLI Premium 2x512 Patriot Signature series Connect3D X-800 Gto Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Kipe Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 Read around my two threads, I don't know if it can be done any other way. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_lifesaver Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I have been trying to get this to boot for the past few days but I'm still without any luck. I tried to load the bootloader from the darwin 8.0.1 cd but it keeps hanging before I get to the @ which device part with a remote debugger error. I've tried rd=disk0s1 and rd=disk0s2 neither or which would boot the operating system either. Everything seems to have installed fine but I'm running out of ideas. Does anyone know what else I could try to get this to boot? My system specs are soyo p4vte motherboard, celeron d 340 2.93ghz, nvidia geforce 4000 64mb, 512mb ultra ram, 160gb maxtor hardrive, generic usb mouse and keyboard, Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergamer Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I'm having this exact issue. Someonehelp :-( Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-64925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Kipe Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 Only think I can think of is that it hates your video card. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10265-read-booting-after-fresh-install-1044-or-1045/#findComment-65081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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