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[jseldon]

BaselineAce, on Jun 27 2006, 10:44 PM, said:

No offense, but couldn't you practically buy a new card for that price?

Actually, you can buy a working card (out of the box) with shipping for about 40 bux on ebay   Pretty easy to swap out too.  It's all about the development however

James

[pacolov]

hi, folks!

just want to mention at this point that i'm highly interested in a bg2200 driver too and that i'm also willing to donate. didn't make os x to run on my hp nc4200 yet, because of my exams. at 7/7/06 i'll be through and will try to involve myself somewhat more into these issues. i am already using a mac mini g4 and windows on my pretty nc4200 is  not my first choice even though it runs quite well. see you in a week

[moseschrist]

nothingness, on Jun 28 2006, 02:40 PM, said:

Well I found my 10.4.3 DVD and extracted the IONetworkFamily.kext, loaded it and still no go, despite a reboot. The iwi2200 module complains of an invalid version for IONetworkFamily. I'm going to parse other network card threads to see if anyone has solved a similar issue. Keep the faith guys...

it wont work with 4.3 kext files...
the driver seems to load only on 4.6 machines...

[gengar_cm]

jseldon, on Jun 28 2006, 08:18 PM, said:

Actually, you can buy a working card (out of the box) with shipping for about 40 bux on ebay   Pretty easy to swap out too.  It's all about the development however

James

That might be the solution... Really.    However before buying a new card, I need to see that 10.4.7 also supports 855 graphics card, too.

Anyway, instead of buying new cards, could anyone write a proper driver and save whole world  

[nothingness]

moseschrist, on Jun 29 2006, 08:01 PM, said:

it wont work with 4.3 kext files...
the driver seems to load only on 4.6 machines...

Yes I gathered that... trouble is, 10.4.6 doesn't have an IONetworkingFamily.kext . Or rather, the 10.4.4 kernel doesn't, as no one has a working 10.4.6 kernel currently as far as I know, just 10.4.6 userland.

[tuxx]

Hi

i dont want to sound arrogant but acctually my driver is alot more advanced than this one.. infact this driver doesnt even really do anything.. firmware loading is NOT done at all for that matter..
all this driver does is register stub functions so that the card is detected as an airport interface and read the mac address. Nothing more :/. As said above 10.4.3 lacked the IONetworkingFamily.kext and IO8211Family.kext, so it was not possible at the time of my writing the driver for me to register it as an airport device. But acctually registering it as an airport device isnt even really a good idea at this point imho. It offers no advantage apart from it looking nice in the gui. Once the driver runs as a normal wired NIC.. one could try to get it working as an airport interface, as that alone is difficult enough.

that being said, anyone sincerely interessted in working on this should look at the driver in the thread which i started.

tuxx

[ed_co]

tuxx, on Jun 29 2006, 09:50 PM, said:

Hi

i dont want to sound arrogant but acctually my driver is alot more advanced than this one.. infact this driver doesnt even really do anything.. firmware loading is NOT done at all for that matter..
all this driver does is register stub functions so that the card is detected as an airport interface and read the mac address. Nothing more :/. As said above 10.4.3 lacked the IONetworkingFamily.kext and IO8211Family.kext, so it was not possible at the time of my writing the driver for me to register it as an airport device. But acctually registering it as an airport device isnt even really a good idea at this point imho. It offers no advantage apart from it looking nice in the gui. Once the driver runs as a normal wired NIC.. one could try to get it working as an airport interface, as that alone is difficult enough.

that being said, anyone sincerely interessted in working on this should look at the driver in the thread which i started.

tuxx

And where is the thread?
Thank you.

[woop]

why don't we just port a driver from BSD like this one:
http://damien.bergam...fr/ipw/faq.html
also, just to get it strait, has anyone succesfully created a osx86 driver for the intel 2100 or 2200?

[AP.Sampson]

woop, on Jun 29 2006, 07:54 PM, said:

why don't we just port a driver from BSD like this one:
http://damien.bergam...fr/ipw/faq.html
also, just to get it strait, has anyone succesfully created a osx86 driver for the intel 2100 or 2200?

original 2200bg thread banter

No.  I remember watching the previous [tuxx's] thread grow and then get shut down...why did it get shut down?  b/c of gremlins posting saying that they will donate and asking for updates.  People are busy, OSx86 is more of a hobby than anything else.  If you want the true experience, please go get a macbook.  They're reasonably priced and  hold their own.

As for tuxx:
I appreciate the effort you initially put in and I applaud you for how long you were able to stand the gremlins moaning about how you should just port from linux or BSD or this or that...anyway, congrats on the macbook.

PS:  I'm willing to offer my coding skills, or lack thereof, to this project.  CSci major having briefly studied OSes[*nix type stuff] and taking network programming soon. PM or email me.

[niteman1969]

Dont know if it will help but the drivers have also been ported to opensolaris
with source code available here  ......

http://www.opensolar...-0.3-src.tar.gz

I know nothing about coding drivers or anything so if it isnt useful then just ignore it...

Regards

Niteman1969

[nothingness]

tuxx, on Jun 29 2006, 09:50 PM, said:

Hi

i dont want to sound arrogant but acctually my driver is alot more advanced than this one.. infact this driver doesnt even really do anything.. firmware loading is NOT done at all for that matter..
all this driver does is register stub functions so that the card is detected as an airport interface and read the mac address. Nothing more :/. As said above 10.4.3 lacked the IONetworkingFamily.kext and IO8211Family.kext, so it was not possible at the time of my writing the driver for me to register it as an airport device. But acctually registering it as an airport device isnt even really a good idea at this point imho. It offers no advantage apart from it looking nice in the gui. Once the driver runs as a normal wired NIC.. one could try to get it working as an airport interface, as that alone is difficult enough.

that being said, anyone sincerely interessted in working on this should look at the driver in the thread which i started.

tuxx

Just trying to be clear here Tuxx: I thought you'd given aroman access to your code base and he was working from that, not going for a whole new driver? And your 20 page thread has been shut down (for a good reason too, people whining about porting linux/bsd drivers have just no idea of how a microkernel works). I'd love to give your driver a spin, although as you say the lack of ieee80211 and network family kexts in 10.4.3 when you started definitely hindered development. Now that they are present in 10.4.6 (presumably... I don't have macbook yet) will the driver be able to be completed without too much effort?

To people offering coding help, just go and get the CVS code, work on it and then submit your modifications. Then the site admins might grant you full access and things will move forward. Just making empty offers isn't enough, you need to provide fresh code from the start, which is how all Open Source projects work.

[m.musashi]

hey tuxx, didn't I tell you what was going to happen to this?
anyway, to everyone else:

1. tuxx source code is already available, check the forum

2. the io80211 kext is non worth much if you don't know how it works (i.e. only headers are available but without futher infos it's not much use); Apple is keeping the stack closed.

3. it's not enough to port the driver section (that is simple enough, I for one did it for an ethernet card in few days). You also need to write the stack or at least a good chunk of it if you want a usuable driver (including WEP, WPA and so on)! That's what I said at the beginning of this thread, but to no avail. Why don't ppl listen?

4. STOP posting about this and that driver in BSD, Linux, MYGrandmaOS. Do you think a driver writer cannot find them already???

PS: re point 3; of course, if someone has access to IO80211 Apple's stack documentation please share it. Then we'd have a driver in a couple of weeks.

[niteman1969]

m.musashi.

Forgive me if i'm wrong but i thought this was a forum where by definition
we share our thoughts and opinions and free-speech was allowed.

Who suddenly made you a moderator?

I'll re-phrase that because moderators are a lot less heavy handed.

People are excited by this project and are trying to help by pointing at other
alternative drivers and source codes.

If it doesnt help fair enough just ignore the posts.

Regards

Niteman1969

[daefiman]

People should also learn to read the thread. They can be helpful if something hasn't been posted before, but if it has, then keep shtum.

[stunned]

stop pissing around...    just code the driver    

i'm really interested in this driver too.
my hardware is very osx-compatible, but my wlan-connection with 2200bg is my need.

thank all the people out there for help porting such systems for everyone!

i'm doing alot of work in adobe's premiere... i wanna see finalcut acting, if it's okay, i'll go there and buy the real one... but i don't wanna buy the dead cat in the sack!

regards

[m.musashi]

daefiman, on Jul 2 2006, 01:08 PM, said:

People should also learn to read the thread. They can be helpful if something hasn't been posted before, but if it has, then keep shtum.

unfortunately that's too much to ask to a lot of ppl  

anyway to be back OT, if anyone "finds" some real developers info on Apple's 80211 stack please share it with the comunity.

[rc_square24]

Has anyone tried the 802.11b driver for

http://www.ioxperts....s/80211b_X.html

[vince29]

Well, have  you seen any "Intel 2200bg" in this driver HCL ?
Besides, I can't see any reference for this driver being a "universal one". And finally, it seems to be a closed source one.
But if you have some time to waste, you still can give it a try.

[Phusho]

Hm this thread is going like previous only posting stupid words and nothing more. Don't you ever got tired to mumble people !!! Stop the stupidity and just wait! There are 4 pages with stupid words and the testing is not have even begun.

[Álvaro Martins]

Jajo, on Jun 28 2006, 11:10 AM, said:

Baseline Ace,

Many of us laptop-users have builtin ipw2200-cards. I currently use a Belkin adapter that works fine, but the internal card has a better antenna and does not require a 8cm stick attached to the computer (that is very easy to break while using the computer on the field).

I am also willing to sponsor the development of this driver.

/ jajo

Another 50$.

Ill sponsor this driver too. Have the same issue 3945 abg internal.. on a samsung r65

Anyone whants to suport the developer?

Best Reg,

Al