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First post, hope i'm in the right place.

Ok, so i'm pretty happy at the moment. The installation on my 8710w is working after my third install.
Installed using iatkos v5i:
Stock kernel - only extra selected was nvinject and intel ahci sata.

Wired ethernet is working - intel 82566mm
Wireless i wont get working now, according to some research - intel 4965abg
Audio - soundmax chipset
Graphics - nvidia quadro fx1600m - using nvinject - CI and QE enabled

I had to hunt kexts for the audio and wired internet.

One last thing that really gets to me: My boot times are insane. It takes 5 minutes to boot. It boots fine (using -v), then quickly gets to a black screen, where it just hangs for a couple of minutes, and then continues normally. Any help would be appreciated.

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i too have had this same problem since i tried installing iatkos on my brand new compaq 8710w back in december.

anyone out there have any ideas on what could be causing this slow boot problem?

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Mine to share what customize you choose?


Either can type it or screen capture...

Thanks

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Laptop: HP Compaq 8710w, intel core 2 duo 2.6ghz, 2 gig ram, 120gb hard drive, intel 4965 wireless, intel 82566 wired ethernet, hp bluetooth module, ricoh card reader, nvidia quadro fx 1600m 512mb

i select.....
bootloader: pc efi v9
decryptors: appledecrypt
smbios: eneabler
smbios x86: smbios netkas
kernel: 9.5.0 voodoo kernel
acpi: stock acpi

also selected..
RemovePowerManagement.kext
nvkush for nvidia

i dont select any other drivers

Mine to share what customize you choose?


Either can type it or screen capture...

Thanks



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That's awesome, I just got a 8710w. Could you provide details on how you installed Audio and Ethernet? Are you using dual boot or just OSX86? Also is sleep working? Thanks. 8710w sure is an amazing laptop. I'm currently scouting for FX 3600m to install on my system.

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hi,
I was very interested when I saw this topic as I too have an 8710w
I already tried installing xxx 10.5.6 final but this has a problem with my sata disk.

I have the same questions as ttnt2k, how did you install it, I want to isntall ox86 on the 3rd primary partition, besides Vista and WIndows 7.

Tnx.

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heres some tips based on what i've done so far on my 8710w...

if using iatkos v5i then you can just select the nvkush option and that seems to work fine for the time being at least for the 1600m although it shows 256mb instead of 512mb.

if you have a problem after the install where your system can't find a keyboard or mouse or both then reinstall iatkos with the ps/2 drivers.

if you've got the integrated soundmax audio then use the attatched kext.
if you've got intel 82566mm ethernet then use the other attatched kext.

the 82566mm.rar file also has kext helper in the rar. use kexthelper to install the 82566mm.kext

personally i am still suffering from long boot times and haven't figured it out yet. if anyone has any ideas then leave a reply. thanks and hope my little bit of info helps. i might be able to help with other small problems as well.

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heres some tips based on what i've done so far on my 8710w...

if using iatkos v5i then you can just select the nvkush option and that seems to work fine for the time being at least for the 1600m although it shows 256mb instead of 512mb.

if you have a problem after the install where your system can't find a keyboard or mouse or both then reinstall iatkos with the ps/2 drivers.

if you've got the integrated soundmax audio then use the attatched kext.
if you've got intel 82566mm ethernet then use the other attatched kext.

the 82566mm.rar file also has kext helper in the rar. use kexthelper to install the 82566mm.kext

personally i am still suffering from long boot times and haven't figured it out yet. if anyone has any ideas then leave a reply. thanks and hope my little bit of info helps. i might be able to help with other small problems as well.


hello there. these two kexts i have attached solves the extremely long boot problem. now my leopard boots even faster than windows. hope this helps you because i also own a 8710w.

for me the bigger problem is enabling hardware acceleration on my quadro 1600m. except of that and wireless everything else works perfectly. so any tip on enabling CI and QE would be priceless. i am using the latest iPC release.

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hello there. these two kexts i have attached solves the extremely long boot problem. now my leopard boots even faster than windows. hope this helps you because i also own a 8710w.

for me the bigger problem is enabling hardware acceleration on my quadro 1600m. except of that and wireless everything else works perfectly. so any tip on enabling CI and QE would be priceless. i am using the latest iPC release.


Only saw the replys to my original post today. I'll give the kexts a bash. Thanks!

To get QE and CI working, I installed NVInject (not nvinjectgo) during the iatkos install. I then had to go and edit the kext, and replace something with 0. Trying to remember what it was. I'm checking now.

Oh, btw, does anybody's headphone jack work? My sound works, but no headphone out :-(

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Have any of you guys tried the intel 4965 driver at http://code.google.com/p/iwidarwin/ ?

I have an 8510w which is similar enough to the 8710w and I want to make sure that everything can work before I go and wipe my system.

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Have any of you guys tried the intel 4965 driver at http://code.google.com/p/iwidarwin/ ?

I have an 8510w which is similar enough to the 8710w and I want to make sure that everything can work before I go and wipe my system.


the intel 4965 currently does not work. i have tried the iwi4965 driver but it does nothing. to solve my wireless problem i picked up a netgear wg111v3 wireless usb dongle. now i have wifi and osx even reports it as an airport card.

and to zenitas thanks for the kext ill give it a whirl and see where it goes =]

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hello there. these two kexts i have attached solves the extremely long boot problem. now my leopard boots even faster than windows. hope this helps you because i also own a 8710w.

for me the bigger problem is enabling hardware acceleration on my quadro 1600m. except of that and wireless everything else works perfectly. so any tip on enabling CI and QE would be priceless. i am using the latest iPC release.



hello guys - my first post here :superman:

i also have 8710w and have successfully installed iPC 10.5.6 on it, but still have some problems. one of them is long boot time, and the other is wifi.

are there any news considering the wifi driver? i have tried one for intel chip - but it doesn't work.


also (and the reason why i am quoting) is that this kext you uploaded here doesn't work for me - it makes the machine unbootable.?? with searching for api msg. how did you get it to work?


sound and all the rest works for me :)

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How to install Mac OS X 10.5.8 Leopard and 10.6.3 Snow Leopard on hp 8710w
(maybe useful for 8510p, 8510w, 8710p, 8530p, 8530w, 8730p, 8730w ...)

This is my story, how I have migrated from Windows to Snow Leopard.
Thanks to all people, how share their knowledge and work.

Mac OS X 10.5.8 Leopard

If you want dual boot with Windows, then install Mac OS X to second partition.
Chameleon bootloader will see and boot both Windows and Mac OS X.
You can reduce Windows parititon using Acronys Disk Director.

There was 110GB Windows partition at my HDD and I have reduced it to 75GB, so I had 35GB for Leo.
Format new partition in Windows as FAT32 with no drive letter.

Use iATKOS v7 10.5.7 DVD to boot and install. It then upgrades to 10.5.8 via Apple Software Update afterwards.
Boot from DVD takes 10-15 min, just wait.
Erase new FAT32 partition as HFS+, label it "Leopard".
  • If you dont need Windows, reformat all disk as GPT (GUID Partition Table), with one partition (HFS+)
  • If you want to try Snow Leo later, create three partitions (HFS+)

  • for Snow Leopard
  • for Leopard
  • for Snow Leo Install DVD, 8GB (not needed if you have external USB drive)

Leave the installation with all the default options, with the addition of the following options:
  • Kernel - Voodoo 9.7.0
  • X86 Patches - OHR
  • Drivers - VGA - nVidia - Enablers - NVEnabler (ONLY!)
  • System - SATA/IDE - AHCI
  • System - SATA/IDE - Generic IDE
  • System - SATA/IDE - Intel SATA/IDE
  • System - Intel SpeedStep (All options)
  • System - USB
  • Sound - Voodoo HDA
  • System - Laptop Battery
  • PS/2 Mouse / Keyboard - Apple PS/2
  • Network - Wired - Intel - Intel Gigabit
  • Network - Wireless - Broadcom BCM43xx (For Bluetooth)
After the initial installation, remove the DVD from the drive and reboot the system.
System boot takes 10-15 min, just wait.

(Optional) If initial registration can't be finished and repeats at every reboot, try this:

From the Chameleon Boot-loader, press any key to enter boot options
(shows a "boot-" in the lower left of your screen) and type -s to boot to a shell.

Once you get a prompt come back, type the following:
fsck -fy
mount -uw /
touch /var/db/.AppleSetupDone followed by
reboot

Download HexHex_HP_8510w_10.5.6_Driver_Installer_v1.1.mpkg

Run and install *ONLY* the Ricoh Cardbus kext.
This will fix long boot problem.
Reboot.

Run Software Update and install all updates including 10.5.8
Or you can download and install 10.5.8 Update Combo
Combo update is preferred, because it will fix issues with X11, if you use it :D

Reboot from iAtkos_v7 DVD. Repeat install with same options, but deselect following:
  • Main system
  • Kernel 9.7.0 Voodoo
  • Your languages
  • Post-install
Remove the DVD from the drive and boot into the Mac OS X.

Repeat HexHex's Ricoh Cardbus kext installation.

Download Voodoo kernel 9.8.0 AnV-XNU-980-V1.7.zip

Replace kernel using manual Voodoo Kernel User Documentation
sudo -s
	 mv /legacy /legacy.970
	 cd Downloads
	 unzip AnV-XNU-980-V1.7.zip
	 cd voodoobuild-0.3.6
	 cp mach_kernel /legacy
	 chflags hidden legacy
	 reboot
Do not forget to repair permissions using Disk Utility.

Now you have Mac OS X 10.5.8 with Voodoo kernel 9.8.0.
You can apply any Apple updates.

What is working:
  • Laptop keyboard, trackpad and blue touch button
  • Full screen graphics, accelerated 1920 x 1200 x millions.
  • Ethernet
  • Bluetooth (including Dialup networking with my Nokia GPRS)
  • Firewire
  • Sound
  • USB
  • Volume controls
  • Full Power-down and Restart
What's NOT working?
  • Wifi (use Belkin USB Dongle, which works just great)
Mac OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard

After you has been excited by Leopard, now you will want to delete Windows and try Snow Leo :plane:

Download or buy Mac OS X 10.6.3 Retail DVD

On your HP notebook there is a HP_RECOVERY partition, 8GB in size. It used to restore factory pre-installed Windows.
I used it for Install DVD image. You may use external USB drive (8GB required).
Create DMG-image from that HP_RECOVERY partition and backup it.
Erase HP_RECOVERY partition with Disk Utility, filesystem HFS+, label it "Mac OS X Install DVD"
Run Disk Utility and restore Snow Leo DVD to that parition

If you have not deleted Windows during installation of iAtkos, your disk layout is MBR.
Snow Leo requires GPT (GUID). So we have to patch Snow Leo DVD, in order to install it to MBR.

Download OSInstall_1063_10D575_deviato.zip

sudo -s
	 cd Downloads
	 unzip OSInstall_1063_10D575_deviato.zip
	 cp OSInstall /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ DVD/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Frameworks/OSInstall.framework/Versions/A/
	 cp OSInstall.mpkg /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Install\ DVD/System/Installation/Packages
Erase Windows partition with Disk Utility, filesystem HFS+, label it "Snow Leopard"

Download Empire EFI 1.085

Burn iso (non-legacy) to CD with lowest speed and boot from it.
Select disk(partition) "Mac OS X Install DVD"

Install Mac OS X on partition "Snow Leopard"
Reboot

Boot from Empire EFI again
Select disk(partition) "Snow Leopard" has been installed

Don't use myHack from EmpireEFI CD.
Download new version myHack 1.0.1
Run myHack_Installer_1.0.1.mpkg, select "Snow Leopard" volume, choose following options *ONLY*:
  • core
  • Graphics Enabler
  • FakeSMC
  • IOATAFamily
  • NullCPUPowerManagement
Uncheck other options, then install

Reboot
Eject Empire EFI

In the the Chameleon bootloader select disk "Snow Leopard"

Systems boots without EmpireEFI now, but keyboard doesn't work.

Use USB-keyboard to install VoodooPS2Controller 0.98
Reboot

Download and install kexts

- Intel82566MM (works in 32 and 64 bit modes)
- VoodooHDA 0.2.61
- OpenHaltRestart 1.0.3
- SleepEnabler for 10.6.3
- VoodooBattery 1.3.3
- VoodooPowerMini 1.2.7

System is working now, but there is a problem with a stuttering audio.
Problem is in incorrect FSB speed detection by vanilla kernel.

Download 10.3.0 Legacy Kernel for INTEL/AMD by qoopz/nawcom
run kernel installer legacy_kernel-10.3.0.pkg
reboot

Now you have Mac OS X 10.6.3 with Voodoo kernel 10.3.0.
You can apply any Apple updates.

What is working:
  • Laptop keyboard, trackpad and blue touch button
  • Full screen graphics, accelerated 1920 x 1200 x millions.
  • Ethernet
  • Bluetooth (only file exchange with my Nokia GPRS)
  • Sound
  • USB
  • Volume controls
  • Full Power-down and Restart
What's NOT working?
  • Bluetooth Dial-Up Networking using my Nokia GPRS
  • Wifi (use Belkin USB Dongle, which works just great)
  • Firewire
  • Wake from hibernate
Notes

1) Be sure that "Use secure virtual memory" is enabled. (System preferences - Security)
Otherwise you may stuck with message "Wake Kernel!" on wake after sleep.
Workaround is to delete /Volumes/Snow\ Leopard/var/vm/sleepimage from Leopard.

2) SMB connection to Samba/Windows file sharings is broken in 10.6.3.
smb://hostname/share

There are errors in console:
com.apple.launchd[1]	(com.apple.smbfs_load_kext[128]) posix_spawn("/System/Library/Extensions/smbfs.kext/Contents/Resources/load_smbfs", ...): Permission denied
Solution:
sudo -s
	 cd /System/Library/Extensions/smbfs.kext/Contents/Resources
	 chmod a+x load_smbfs

2 moderators: it may be useful to copy this post to OSx86 10.6 Snow Leopard sub-forum. I have no access to create new topic.

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successfully updated to 10.6.4, works with vanilla kernel
legacy kernel from qoopz/nawcom not needed now
don't forget delete SleepEnabler before update

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successfully updated to 10.6.4, works with vanilla kernel
legacy kernel from qoopz/nawcom not needed now
don't forget delete SleepEnabler before update



Hi,

Thanks for your good work.

How can i change back to vanilla kernel?

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vanilla kernel is /mach_kernel
legacy kernel is /legacy_kernel

set it in /Extra/com.apple.Boot.plist
<key>Kernel</key>
<string>mach_kernel</string>


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vanilla kernel is /mach_kernel
legacy kernel is /legacy_kernel

set it in /Extra/com.apple.Boot.plist

<key>Kernel</key>
<string>mach_kernel</string>


Hi,

many thanks.

How can i install the 64Bit Version on the 8710w?

Greetings from Lametta17

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32-bit
<key>Kernel Flags</key>
 <string>arch=i386</string>
64-bit
<key>Kernel Flags</key>
  <string>arch=x86_64</string>

before switching to 64-bit:
replace VoodooPS2Controller.kext with this one SL_PS2_Voodoo.zip
(supports both 32 and 64 bit)

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Hello Ludens,

I actually own a 8710w and I'm now deciding whether to buy a Macbook Pro or a PC (maybe a 8740w or a desktop with a GTX 480) to mainly use OSX. I just found your tutorial and maybe this is an off-topic but I would like to ask you some questions:

How long did that take to you?

Do you think that one can completely replace a Macbook with that installation?

Has the FX 1600M similar performance than in Windows, does it support OpenCL?

Thanks a lot!

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guys, someone tested this - iAtkos S3 10.6.3 ver.2

I`ve HP Compaq 8710p (GC103EA#ACB)


CPU Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, 2200 MHz (11 x 200) Hewlett-Packard HP Compaq 8710p (GC103EA#ACB)
Intel Crestline-PM PM965
4032 Мб (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 320M (256 Мб)
Analog Devices AD1981HD @ Intel 82801HBM ICH8M - High Definition Audio Controller

And I use this options, from this topic, but its no help me, my mac OS isnt starting after installing leopard :
for iAtkos S3 10.6.3 ver.2 and recommending you
iATKOS v7 10.5.7 DVD

Leave the installation with all the default options, with the addition of the following options:
Kernel - Voodoo 9.7.0
X86 Patches - OHR
Drivers - VGA - nVidia - Enablers - NVEnabler (ONLY!)
System - SATA/IDE - AHCI
System - SATA/IDE - Generic IDE
System - SATA/IDE - Intel SATA/IDE
System - Intel SpeedStep (All options)
System - USB
Sound - Voodoo HDA
System - Laptop Battery
PS/2 Mouse / Keyboard - Apple PS/2
Network - Wired - Intel - Intel Gigabit
Network - Wireless - Broadcom BCM43xx (For Bluetooth)



pls,help me to choose the right option for my laptop





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