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Does anyone have any hard evidence (and that they can post without violating a confidence) that 10.6 WILL actually support any of the 260/280/285/295 NVIDIA cards.


No NVidia 200 series support on 10.5.7. See Netkas blog.

Having a Core i7 Processor gets you nothing more than what a Core 2 Quad gets you in OSX86


Wrong. Nehalem has a different architecture from the Core 2 and it is visibly faster than any Core 2 derivatives (duo and quads.)

Although, I7 is hell of a lot more money then the Core 2 quad.


The 920 core is about the same price as Q9550 at less than $300.

Also, you have to deal with making sure your motherboard is compatible with OSX86 (if you went with Core i7), and thats ton in itself.


The new MacPro uses i7 meaning that we will see support for those Nehalem cores in 10.5.7.

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Does anyone have any hard evidence (and that they can post without violating a confidence) that 10.6 WILL actually support any of the 260/280/285/295 NVIDIA cards.

How about Snow Leopard. I keep hearing that it works, but haven't seen hard evidence since September last year.

Nehalem is better and faster, but also more expensive, because basically the new motherboards & DDR3 RAM is more expensive than the old motherboards with DDR2.

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you would just get it to detect as a single gtx 260 or with a bit of plist editing two cards at the same pcie location, unless you get the nice new gtx295 which is the two 285 together but don;t think there released yet..

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I've got the GTX295 working great on my Core i7 720 configuration.

I used iAtkos v7 with "Natit Enabler" and "GTX200 EVGA Driver".
It seems to work perfectly with QE/CE but the sleep mode doesn't wake up the screen and the vram information of the second GPU isn't correct (0 instead of 896)

if anyone has any other idea to get these things workin', i'm in touch ;)

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EVGA GTX 295 Co op Edition works! Go to the following URL. I provided the instructions. Begin reading post #235.

http://forums.macrum...020#post8199020

Thank you folks for this site.

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EVGA GTX 295 Co op Edition works! Go to the following URL. I provided the instructions. Begin reading post #235.

http://forums.macrum...020#post8199020

Thank you folks for this site.



uuuuuuuuuuuuuoooooohhhhhhhh man!!!...... i'll try this when i'll finish downloading the newest ideneb 10.5.7 dvd... then i'll report
immediately back to you... i only hope that the system will see both gpus of my asus gtx 295... :unsure:

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Yes.

The EVGA GTX 295 Co-op Edition works under Snow Leopard. It's awesome. Both 32-bit/64-bit works. Also sleeps works. This is on a Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P motherboard. I created an EFI string and inserted that into the boot plist file. In addition to this, I had to insert 0x05eb10de&0xfff8ffff into the NVDANV50Hal.kext/Contents/Info.plist file.

Run as root afterwards:
kextcache -v 1 -t -m /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/Extensions.mkext /System/Library/Extensions

## My gfx.plist file:
[codebox]<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com...yList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>PciRoot(0x1)/Pci(0x1,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x2,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)</key>
<dict>
<key>@0,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@0,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@0,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-A</string>
<key>@1,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@1,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@1,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-B</string>
<key>NVCAP</key>
<data>
BQAAAAAAAwAMAAAAAAAACwAAAAA=
</data>
<key>VRAM,totalsize</key>
<data>
AAAAOA==
</data>
<key>device_type</key>
<string>NVDA,GeForce</string>
<key>model</key>
<string>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295</string>
<key>name</key>
<string>NVDA,Parent</string>
<key>rom-revision</key>
<string>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 OpenGL Engine [EFI]</string>
</dict>
<key>PciRoot(0x1)/Pci(0x1,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)</key>
<dict>
<key>@0,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@0,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@0,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-A</string>
<key>@1,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@1,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@1,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-B</string>
<key>NVCAP</key>
<data>
BQAAAAAAAwAMAAAAAAAACwAAAAA=
</data>
<key>VRAM,totalsize</key>
<data>
AAAAOA==
</data>
<key>device_type</key>
<string>NVDA,GeForce</string>
<key>model</key>
<string>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295</string>
<key>name</key>
<string>NVDA,Parent</string>
<key>rom-revision</key>
<string>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 OpenGL Engine [EFI]</string>
</dict>
</dict>
</plist>[/codebox]

Use gfxutil to convert to hex and add to the boot plist file. Run gfxutil -f display and change the PciRoot key.

Good luck. I did this today to try to make this work so that I could run SL in 64-bit mode. The Netkas ATY_Init kext is currently only 32-bit. (this works for 32-bit if the EFI string doesn't work for you).

I'm attaching a picture which shows both GPUs being seen by OpenCL.

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Ok here my setup

Asus Rampage Extreme socket 775
Asus ENGTX295 (dual gpu) 1792MB , Both gpu's have the same id: 10de:05e0 (I dont have to insert the "0x05eb10de&amp;0xfff8ffff" for this card)

intel4x:~ ginobadouri$ gfxutil -f Display
DevicePath = PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x2,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)

I'm currently running OSX 10.5.8 with the EVGA GT200 drivers and ATY_Init.kext.
My bootloader is Chameleon 2 rc3

Here's my /Extra/com.apple.Boot.plist

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com...yList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>Kernel</key>
<string>mach_kernel</string>
<key>Kernel Flags</key>
<string></string>
<key>Timeout</key>
<string>5</string>
<key>device-properties</key>
<string>920400000100000002000000430200000c00000002010c00d041030a000000000101060000010
101060000000101060000020101060000007fff040022000000400031002c00640065007600690063
0065005f00740079007000650000000b000000646973706c6179220000005600520041004d002c007
4006f00740061006c00730069007a0065000000080000000000003820000000400031002c0063006f
006d00700061007400690062006c00650000000e0000004e5644412c4e564d6163140000004000300
02c006e0061006d0065000000120000004e5644412c446973706c61792d411e00000072006f006d00
2d007200650076006900730069006f006e0000002e0000004e5649444941204765466f72636520475
45820323935204f70656e474c20456e67696e65205b4546495d1c0000006400650076006900630065
005f0074007900700065000000100000004e5644412c4765466f72636514000000400031002c006e0
061006d0065000000120000004e5644412c446973706c61792d420e0000006e0061006d0065000000
0f0000004e5644412c506172656e7420000000400030002c0063006f006d007000610074006900620
06c00650000000e0000004e5644412c4e564d6163100000004e005600430041005000000018000000
05000000000003000c0000000000000b0000000022000000400030002c00640065007600690063006
5005f00740079007000650000000b000000646973706c6179100000006d006f00640065006c000000
1a0000004e5649444941204765466f7263652047545820323935430200000c00000002010c00d0410
30a000000000101060000010101060000000101060000000101060000007fff040022000000400031
002c006400650076006900630065005f00740079007000650000000b000000646973706c617922000
0005600520041004d002c0074006f00740061006c00730069007a0065000000080000000000003820
000000400031002c0063006f006d00700061007400690062006c00650000000e0000004e5644412c4
e564d616314000000400030002c006e0061006d0065000000120000004e5644412c446973706c6179
2d411e00000072006f006d002d007200650076006900730069006f006e0000002e0000004e5649444
941204765466f7263652047545820323935204f70656e474c20456e67696e65205b4546495d1c0000
006400650076006900630065005f0074007900700065000000100000004e5644412c4765466f72636
514000000400031002c006e0061006d0065000000120000004e5644412c446973706c61792d420e00
00006e0061006d00650000000f0000004e5644412c506172656e7420000000400030002c0063006f0
06d00700061007400690062006c00650000000e0000004e5644412c4e564d6163100000004e005600
43004100500000001800000005000000000003000c0000000000000b0000000022000000400030002
c006400650076006900630065005f00740079007000650000000b000000646973706c617910000000
6d006f00640065006c0000001a0000004e5649444941204765466f7263652047545820323935</string>
</dict>
</plist>

The device string was generated from your example gfx.plist

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com...yList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x2,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)</key>
<dict>
<key>@0,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@0,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@0,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-A</string>
<key>@1,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@1,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@1,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-B</string>
<key>NVCAP</key>
<data>
BQAAAAAAAwAMAAAAAAAACwAAAAA=
</data>
<key>VRAM,totalsize</key>
<data>
AAAAOA==
</data>
<key>device_type</key>
<string>NVDA,GeForce</string>
<key>model</key>
<string>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295</string>
<key>name</key>
<string>NVDA,Parent</string>
<key>rom-revision</key>
<string>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 OpenGL Engine [EFI]</string>
</dict>
<key>PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)</key>
<dict>
<key>@0,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@0,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@0,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-A</string>
<key>@1,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@1,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@1,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-B</string>
<key>NVCAP</key>
<data>
BQAAAAAAAwAMAAAAAAAACwAAAAA=
</data>
<key>VRAM,totalsize</key>
<data>
AAAAOA==
</data>
<key>device_type</key>
<string>NVDA,GeForce</string>
<key>model</key>
<string>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295</string>
<key>name</key>
<string>NVDA,Parent</string>
<key>rom-revision</key>
<string>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 OpenGL Engine [EFI]</string>
</dict>
</dict>
</plist>

The first PCIRoot key is what gfxutil -f Display shows.. The second is almost the same only I changed the last part from 0x2 to 0x0.
I don't know if this is right.. cant gfxutil give me both PCI keys?

I'm not using any smbios.plist or dsdt.aml files.

I've cloned the Snow Leopard final disc into a seperate partition and only added fakesmc.kext (for SL) into /S/L/E
Then recreated the kextcache.

When SL boots I can see fakesmc and NVDANV50Hal being loaded but when the screen inits it only gives a black screen and hangs.
The same happens for 10.5.8 when I try to boot it without ATY_Init.kext.
So there must be something wrong with my gfx.plist?

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Ok here my setup

Asus Rampage Extreme socket 775
Asus ENGTX295 (dual gpu) 1792MB , Both gpu's have the same id: 10de:05e0 (I dont have to insert the "0x05eb10de&amp;0xfff8ffff" for this card)

intel4x:~ ginobadouri$ gfxutil -f Display
DevicePath = PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x2,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)

I'm currently running OSX 10.5.8 with the EVGA GT200 drivers and ATY_Init.kext.
My bootloader is Chameleon 2 rc3


gfxutil -f display reported this for your first PciRoot entry. Okay, this one is correct.
PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x2,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)

Acquire IORegistryExplorer. Remove the GFX EFI string from your boot plist file. Put back the ATY_Init Netkas extension. Refresh the Extension.mkext file: (assuming you installed ATY_Init under /S/L/E)
sudo kextcache -v 1 -t -m /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/Extensions.mkext /System/Library/Extensions.

Boot using -x32. Run IORegistryExplorer. Select IODeviceTree from the first pull-down menu. Type display in the search field. Click on each display@0 or GFX@0 entries. Look for NVCAP and write those values somewhere. Also pay close attention to the IODeviceTree value for both displays (just below the search field). This will help determine the correct setting for the 2nd PciRoot entry in your gfx.plist file. The NVCAP value is what ATY_Init injected. You want to use and convert this for your gfx.plist NVCAP entry.

This is what I did to get my single pcb edition working. Both PciRoot and NVCAP entries must be correct. See if both NVCAP entries are the same for both GPUs. If not, you will need to adjust accordingly inside your gfx.plist file.

Good luck.

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Thanks bro it worked:)
You're the man!

I've found another gfx.plist from a french site which was closer to my system.
I used PlistEdit Pro to edit in the NVCAP and NVPM values which I got from IORegistryExplorer and ATY_Init.kext
IORegistryExplorer is a great app since it shows the correct PciRoot keys for both adapters.

[codebox]<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com...yList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)</key>
<dict>
<key>@0,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@0,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@0,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-A</string>
<key>@1,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@1,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@1,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-B</string>
<key>@2,#adress-cells</key>
<string>0x01000000</string>
<key>@2,#size-cells</key>
<string>0x00000000</string>
<key>@2,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,sensor-parent</string>
<key>@2,device_type</key>
<string>NVDA,gpu-diode</string>
<key>@2,hwctrl-params-version</key>
<string>0x02000000</string>
<key>@2,hwsensor-params-version</key>
<string>0x02000000</string>
<key>@2,name</key>
<string>sensor-parent</string>
<key>@2,reg</key>
<string>0x02000000</string>
<key>NVCAP</key>
<data>
BQAAAAAAAwAMAAAAAAAACwAAAAA=
</data>
<key>VRAM,totalsize</key>
<data>
AAAAIA==
</data>
<key>device_type</key>
<string>NVDA,GeForce</string>
<key>model</key>
<string>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295</string>
<key>name</key>
<string>NVDA,Parent</string>
<key>rom-revision</key>
<string>62.00.6C.00.01</string>
</dict>
<key>PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Pci(0x2,0x0)/Pci(0x0,0x0)</key>
<dict>
<key>@0,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@0,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@0,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-A</string>
<key>@1,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,NVMac</string>
<key>@1,device_type</key>
<string>display</string>
<key>@1,name</key>
<string>NVDA,Display-B</string>
<key>@2,#adress-cells</key>
<string>0x01000000</string>
<key>@2,#size-cells</key>
<string>0x00000000</string>
<key>@2,compatible</key>
<string>NVDA,sensor-parent</string>
<key>@2,device_type</key>
<string>NVDA,gpu-diode</string>
<key>@2,hwctrl-params-version</key>
<string>0x02000000</string>
<key>@2,hwsensor-params-version</key>
<string>0x02000000</string>
<key>@2,name</key>
<string>sensor-parent</string>
<key>@2,reg</key>
<string>0x02000000</string>
<key>NVCAP</key>
<data>
BAAAAAAAAwAMAAAAAAAABwAAAAA=
</data>
<key>NVPM</key>
<data>
AQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA==
</data>
<key>VRAM,totalsize</key>
<data>
AAAAOA==
</data>
<key>device_type</key>
<string>NVDA,GeForce</string>
<key>model</key>
<string>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295</string>
<key>name</key>
<string>NVDA,Parent</string>
<key>rom-revision</key>
<string>62.00.6C.00.02</string>
</dict>
</dict>
</plist>[/codebox]

IORegistryExplorer shows NVCAP for both adapters but the NVPM value only shows up on the second adapter, so I removed it from the first one in my gfx.plist
All works great now and both dvi ports work.
It only reports the VideoRAM wrong. The first cards shows up with both connected displays and 896MB and the second adapter only shows 512MB without any connected displays but that's ok.

Thanks for everything!

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It only reports the VideoRAM wrong. The first cards shows up with both connected displays and 896MB and the second adapter only shows 512MB without any connected displays but that's ok.


You're almost there. You can fix your ram setting. Change the value for the first VRAM,totalsize setting from AAAAIA== to AAAAOA==. Both need to be set to AAAAOA== for your GTX 295 card (each GPU having 896 MB of ram).

Congratulations.

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You're almost there. You can fix your ram setting. Change the value for the first VRAM,totalsize setting from AAAAIA== to AAAAOA==. Both need to be set to AAAAOA== for your GTX 295 card (each GPU having 896 MB of ram).

Congratulations.


I am in exactly this same position *scratching head* I have made the changes and added AAAAOA== for both VRAM,totalsize yet SnowLeopard is reporting the second GPU as 512Mb still.

Strange. I wonder if OpenCL sees them .. Im gonna go check

-Z

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I am in exactly this same position *scratching head* I have made the changes and added AAAAOA== for both VRAM,totalsize yet SnowLeopard is reporting the second GPU as 512Mb still.


Did you remember to remove ATY_Init.kext from /S/L/E and refresh your Extensions.mkext. The presence of ATY_Init.kext will override GFX entries configured in the boot plist EFI string.

If you want to keep ATY_Init.kext in place, change VRAM,totalsize inside ATY_Init.kext/Contents/Info.plist to AAAAOA== and refresh your Extensions.mkext.

sudo kextcache -v 1 -t -m /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/Extensions.mkext /System/Library/Extensions

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Run this command to refresh the system kext cache files under Snow Leopard:

sudo kextcache -system-caches

This will refresh the following files:

/System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/Extensions.mkext

/System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Directories/System/Library/Extensions/*
IOKitPersonalities_i386.ioplist.gz
IOKitPersonalities_x86_64.ioplist.gz
KextIdentifiers.plist.gz
KextPropertyValues_OSBundleHelper_i386.plist.gz
KextPropertyValues_OSBundleHelper_x86_64.plist.gz

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Did you remember to remove ATY_Init.kext from /S/L/E and refresh your Extensions.mkext. The presence of ATY_Init.kext will override GFX entries configured in the boot plist EFI string.

If you want to keep ATY_Init.kext in place, change VRAM,totalsize inside ATY_Init.kext/Contents/Info.plist to AAAAOA== and refresh your Extensions.mkext.

sudo kextcache -v 1 -t -m /System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kext.caches/Startup/Extensions.mkext /System/Library/Extensions



Ok, headed home from work now. Going to try this right away! I was under the impression that I needed ATY_init.kext to be able to operate at all but I've been reading a bit and I guess all it really does is allows the dual monitor stuff to work. I think I have that right ... right?

-Z

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Ok, headed home from work now. Going to try this right away! I was under the impression that I needed ATY_init.kext to be able to operate at all but I've been reading a bit and I guess all it really does is allows the dual monitor stuff to work. I think I have that right ... right?

-Z


Both displays works on my system without the Netkas ATY_Init kext. The EFI string in my boot plist is all I have configured for my graphics card.

In any event, that explains why you're still seeing 512 MB. The ATY_Init defaults to 512 MB. Folks are able to change the VRAM,totalsize in ATY_Init plist to match their setup. Refresh Extensions.mkext afterwards. You should see 896 MB for both GPUs on your GTX 295 card.

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for GTX295 Dual-PCB new version only rev.62.00.6C.00.01/02 and ID:05eb
see my post here:
http://www.darwinx86...280#comment-284

:)

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for GTX295 Dual-PCB new revision only (62.00.6C.00.01/02)
see my post here:
http://www.darwinx86...280#comment-284

:)


Thank you for the kext. I no longer need to add the 05eb entry to the NVDANV50Hal.kext plist file. Your kext works from /Extra/Extensions.mkext too.

Awesome.

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I'm having a few issues getting my Gigabyte GTX 295 (single PCB) recognised properly under SL. I have PC EFI 10.3, which apparently has a "graphics injector" option that I'm using, as the Enabler package does not seem to want to install. Likewise with the EVGA drivers, they refused to install, but I manually installed the three packages inside the single master package. I've also added my dev-id (05eb10de) to the Info.plist in NVDANV50.kext.

System Profiler recognises two video cards, one named "Display" and one named "Unknown". The unknown one correctly reports 896MB of VRAM, the display reports nothing at all. The OpenGL extension viewer only offers the Apple software renderer, making me think that drivers aren't loading correctly. Here is my kernel boot up log (I've snipped the timestamps and "localhost kernel[0]:" for brevity) that backs up this thought:

*snip*

Any ideas?

EDIT: Solved my dilemma, explained below.

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can any one explain step by step how to install an EVGA GTX 295 Coop in snow leopard?


im quite new to all this and i cant quite get my head around meroys instructions!
im not sure where id get hold of the NVDANV50Hal.kext ....

im running a retail snow install on a GA-EX58-UD5 using Digital dreamers script,
it currently shows up in system profiler as having only 32MB of VRAM, and i know that isnt right!



snow leopard with a GTX295 would be wicked :P





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