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Want to put money on it? I say the first 6 months he will start a war.


You loose. Obama didn't start any wars in the first year, never mind six months.

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Don't forget the 'Useless Idiot'. That is, the one that whips pamphlets up such as the one above.


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I had never seen this before, but I find it hilarious.

More generally speaking, I don't understand the "useless idiots" who try to destroy Obama, and not a word about Bush, by far one the worst presidents you ever had.

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I had never seen this before, but I find it hilarious.

More generally speaking, I don't understand the "useless idiots" who try to destroy Obama, and not a word about Bush, by far one the worst presidents you ever had.


Me neither the reason you see not a mention of the shrub is it does not fit into the right wing neo-con religious agenda of blaming everything on Obama, obstruction of everything he tries to do and generally just turning America into a mean nasty place full of hate and division so they can take control back and continue on with what they started...

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Me neither the reason you see not a mention of the shrub is it does not fit into the right wing neo-con religious agenda of blaming everything on Obama, obstruction of everything he tries to do and generally just turning America into a mean nasty place full of hate and division so they can take control back and continue on with what they started...


It sounds right to me...
It is exactly the same what happened to Italy. We had 2 years of good, democratic government (Mr. Prodi).
The right wing was shouting all the time it was the worst government ever.
In the end they managed to cause it to fall. Then they came back to power (Mr. Berlusconi) and it is an absolute nightmare.

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It sounds right to me...
It is exactly the same what happened to Italy. We had 2 years of good, democratic government (Mr. Prodi).
The right wing was shouting all the time it was the worst government ever.
In the end they managed to cause it to fall. Then they came back to power (Mr. Berlusconi) and it is an absolute nightmare.


You have my condolences. Berlusconi is the one mainstream western politician who seems to be even worse to have in office than Bush.

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I had never seen this before, but I find it hilarious.

More generally speaking, I don't understand the "useless idiots" who try to destroy Obama, and not a word about Bush, by far one the worst presidents you ever had.


I think that if you rise above the "liberal" (US Democrat) versus "conservative" (US Republican) divide & conquer technique that the ruling elite have in place, you will find the differences are pretty trivial.

Otherwise, the Democratic party is owned by Wall St. banksters, they created Obama. On other the "side", the US oil industry created the Bush regime. The military-industrial-complex exerts significant control over both sides.

Finally, it should be noted that the pattern for Republican presidents is indeed useful idiots to believe their simple "conservative" message:

Ronald Reagan
George W. Bush
Sarah Palin


On the other hand , Democratic presidents need to be slick fraudsters to sell their more complicated "liberal" ideas:

Bill Clinton
Barack Obama

Isn't Tarpley one of those 9/11 conspiracy theorists?


Look, I actually like you... but if have not figured out that 9/11 was a false-flag operation yet, you need to stop hanging around InsanelyMac and get some help.

Start here:
http://www.ae911trut...t_selection.php

More decision making based on unsubstantiated fear. Wonderful. Just what the world needs more of.


Oh please...

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Hi bofors

You know that I like and admire you. I built 3 of my hackintoshes just by following your simple guides.

So I want to understand.

You say that "liberals" and "conservatives" are basically the same.
Problem is that from a European point of view the results of what the "liberals" do seem more palatable.

So, if both are bad, what could the solution be?

In Italy we have people (Like Mr. Beppe Grillo, http://www.beppegrillo.it/en/ ) who say that all politicians are "bad" and corrupt. Fair enough, they might even be right. But trouble is, I can't see a possible, feasible solution.

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Actually... mp3228 is right on the money. Obama is very contradictory, yet both you two don't care to do your own damn research, or you love socialism ruining everyone else's chance at the American Dream. Seriously, if you hate what America stands for so much, why don't you just move to Canada or something. Sheesh...


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Here's some interesting and highly relevant reading for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia


:) those god damn Commies' ... goin' n' taking over everything A'mirkin

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Look, I actually like you... but if have not figured out that 9/11 was a false-flag operation yet, you need to stop hanging around InsanelyMac and get some help.


Well you really should take your own advice and get some help Bofors, but for pretty much exactly the opposite reason.

Start here:
http://www.ae911trut...t_selection.php


Or Solaar could go here

Resources for debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

and get an education in reality and not get sucked into nutty conspiracy theories. Boy I wished I'd known about them before I started arguing with these nutters, would have saved me a lot of time.

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To be honest, I'm not sure why people take so much of their time to argue about presidents. It's not as if they hold that much power to begin with. Sure, they choose their cabinet and such, but in the end it's left up to the decisions of the Congress whether or not things happen in this Country.
That, and people are constantly afraid of one president changing everything.... Which of course is not only improbable but also impossible. That, and if anything large even STARTED to change, a revolution would break out before we let ourselves get smacked down under someone else's rule. I mean, seriously.

If there's one thing Americans are, it's stubborn. We HATE change. XD

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To be honest, I'm not sure why people take so much of their time to argue about presidents. It's not as if they hold that much power to begin with. Sure, they choose their cabinet and such, but in the end it's left up to the decisions of the Congress whether or not things happen in this Country.


Well, what you say is true on the surface, but misses a number of important points. For one thing Prez appoint Supreme Court Justices and if you think cases like "Bush v Gore" and the recent "Corporations can spend as much money as they want on political campaigns with no limits" would have been resolved the same way if Democrats had appointed justices to Scalia, Thomas, Alito and the rest of the Conservative justices posts, well I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that I can offer you a nice price on.

Also, while yes Congress does in theory have much more power than the Prez, it is a beast with several hundred heads. Most of which are often pulling in different directions. So the Prez can have a significant influence on things if the Prez is focused, determined and a sufficiently good schmoozer. It also means that quite often a Prez can set the agenda and what is getting considered.

Also never underestimate the power of the Prez to influence public opinion. Congresspeople listen to that and a sufficiently popular Prez can be quite effective at twisting arms.

That, and people are constantly afraid of one president changing everything.... Which of course is not only improbable but also impossible. That, and if anything large even STARTED to change, a revolution would break out before we let ourselves get smacked down under someone else's rule. I mean, seriously.


A lot of history can come down to having the right (or wrong) person in a spot at a particular time. One more liberal justice on the court, might well have swung the 2000 election to Gore, which could have made an immeasurable difference in subsequent events. 9/11 might never of happened or it might have been worse. Who can tell what the effects of Sadam still being in power might be or what the ultimate effects of kicking him out of power will be.

History often hangs on a very thin thread. Things are resistant to swift change, but sometimes all it takes is the lack of a nail, as the saying goes.

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Now, Obama is invading Afghanistan, and bombing Yemen. The loving liberal. hahaha.

That's already happening for a few years. Obama will need a huge extinguisher and a huge amount of competent people to tidy up this mess. That alone should boost the job market like never seen before.

Next year when Daddy Manager doesn't bring home $550,000 but only $480,000 we'll all feel the disaster striking as he'll be unable to buy his son the latest import car made in one of those evil 'socialist' countries like Sweden or Germany. Awww...

btw regarding higher taxes on large corporate. There's a fairly simple and largely proven way to get around it, at least partially. Increase your costs and decrease your profits by paying your employees in the lower income brackets higher salaries. The employee won't get necessarily taxed more if Obama keeps his statement that he won't touch income up to $250,000. That gives them more purchasing power, hence a potential boost for the economy. That has nothing to do with socialism, it's logical and worked many times before.


Look at what you wrote then, and look at today.

People are losing their homes because they can't pay their property tax, because they are out of work. Houses are for sale on every street, and all your loving liberal president has done is give more money to wall street, re-invade Afghanistan, continue the war in Iraq, and now the nut is bombing Yemen. Lets not forget, he just re-signed the dreaded patriot act back into law.

I hope you are happy.

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Now, Obama is invading Afghanistan, and bombing Yemen. The loving liberal. hahaha.


Boy you don't let facts get in the way of a good paranoid rant. We never left afghanistan, you can't invade a country you're already in.

Do you need me to make a crayon drawing of this for you? Your reading comprehension doesn't really measure up to that of a dyslexic 4 yr old.

As far as bombing Yemen goes, given that it's one of the main places Al'Quaeda is holed up these days, he'd be derelict in his duties if he wasn't going after them and it's happening with the cooperation and support of both the Saudis and Yemeni governments.

People are losing their homes because they can't pay their property tax, because they are out of work.


At least get your basic economics right, people are loosing their houses because they can't pay their mortgages, not property taxes. Property taxes even in the highest tax states are still far less than the mortgages. ARMs and other balloon payments are far more responsible for this.

Obviously the jobs situation isn't helping things, you did get that right at least.

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Boy you don't let facts get in the way of a good paranoid rant. We never left afghanistan, you can't invade a country you're already in.

Do you need me to make a crayon drawing of this for you? Your reading comprehension doesn't really measure up to that of a dyslexic 4 yr old.

As far as bombing Yemen goes, given that it's one of the main places Al'Quaeda is holed up these days, he'd be derelict in his duties if he wasn't going after them and it's happening with the cooperation and support of both the Saudis and Yemeni governments.



At least get your basic economics right, people are loosing their houses because they can't pay their mortgages, not property taxes. Property taxes even in the highest tax states are still far less than the mortgages. ARMs and other balloon payments are far more responsible for this.

Obviously the jobs situation isn't helping things, you did get that right at least.


Your Obamagod lied. He is still in Iraq, and was bombing Yemen 2 weeks before your underwear bomber showed up.

How does it feel to be pro-war?

You loose. Obama didn't start any wars in the first year, never mind six months.


Lets review.

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Your Obamagod lied. He is still in Iraq, and was bombing Yemen 2 weeks before your underwear bomber showed up.

How does it feel to be pro-war?


You really don't understand the english language do you. Al Qaeda was and has been in Yemen for years, but facts and paying attention to things are not your strong point. I've come across flat worms with a better grasp of the situation. They're also in Somalia and Pakistan. In fact they are in many places where there is

1) A weak or non-existent government
2) Societal chaos
3) Muslim fundamentalists - You know intolerant fanatics AKA People like you.

As far as Obama lying goes, what date did he state we'd be out of Iraq by again? He didn't because he's not stupid. He's a smart guy and knows enough to avoid giving a hard and fast date, because situations change and it's always good to leave yourself wiggle room.

The word you'd be looking for if you actually understood english is "prevaricate"

Lets review.


And the war he's started is? Sorry to break it to you, but bombing some Al Qaeda sympathizers in Yemen doesn't constitute a war.

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Now, years later, how many wars has he started during his term? Why are we still not out of Iraq & Afghanistan?

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I couldn't find any crayon drawings suitable to explain things. But try these pictures.

Now, years later, how many wars has he started during his term?


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Why are we still not out of Iraq & Afghanistan?


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I'd have asked why you seem to think anyone around here worships Obama (he's a big improvement over the shrub, but Obamagod???). However your complete and utter inability to comprehend the written english language, means that it would be a pointless endeavor to do so.

What is it with you truthers? How can you possibly be this incapable of comprehending simple sentences?

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I couldn't find any crayon drawings suitable to explain things. But try these pictures.









I'd have asked why you seem to think anyone around here worships Obama (he's a big improvement over the shrub, but Obamagod???). However your complete and utter inability to comprehend the written english language, means that it would be a pointless endeavor to do so.

What is it with you truthers? How can you possibly be this incapable of comprehending simple sentences?




Are you going to answer my question?

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Are you going to answer my question?


Er. Pawn to King's three? Or is that Knight to Queen's 47. Oh right this isn't a sea mail correspondence chess game.

It took you five months to think of this?

Spoiler


Do you think you'll ever actually answer any of mine or that you would actually pay attention if I did? Can you even say what question I've failed to answer is?

Ah, I must admit though, your posts always do always bring a smile to my face. They're so delightfully irrational and nonsensical.

Well let me know when you get around to answering in 6 months or so.

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I was just wondering what you think of your friend Obama now? You were so eager to get your warmonger buddy elected.

You loose. Obama didn't start any wars in the first year, never mind six months.


YOU lost.





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