AldoWeb Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 OK Guys As I see these cards will not be supported for some time . They say It's about connectors that the internal LCD are using. But why in safe mode we can use the LVDS connector ?? And this is the question I'm always raising: Can we set up our MAC installations to use the safe mode graphics even in a normal mode(Like we do in Windows with Standard VGA drivers)? I will be happy to have the 1024 X 768 till the BIG date anyone fixes the Real ATI Drivers for mobility. And I can live without CI/QE for some time. PS: I can login now to the MAC installation (using -x on boot) but I don't have sound network and etc (I know that sound works because after installation with a scrambled screen I could hear sounds coming from my Notebook). Please tell us poor guys with ATI mobility curse how can we boot normally with safe graphics. Thanks in Advance Aldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AldoWeb Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 Still hoping for some one to reply. How can we start OSX in Full mode with Graphics as in Safe Mode. For the moment we can live without CI/QE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meaw Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 like me i have a Mobility 2400XT on acer 4920G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fburger Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'm fairly sure you can achieve this by just removing the ATIRadeonX2000.kext from your Extensions folder. Give that a try and let me know if it works for you. I'm using a mobility HD 2400 and this does the trick for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AldoWeb Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'm fairly sure you can achieve this by just removing the ATIRadeonX2000.kext from your Extensions folder.Give that a try and let me know if it works for you. I'm using a mobility HD 2400 and this does the trick for me. I tried that but then it does not boot anymore What release are you using? I'm using iATKOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dong Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Instead of removing ATIRadeonX2000.kext, you should remove any inject kexts like natit to use vesa driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AldoWeb Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 Instead of removing ATIRadeonX2000.kext, you should remove any inject kexts like natit to use vesa driver. I have a clean iATKOS install. I removed ATIR*.kext - the system failed to start I removed ATIRadeonX2000.kext where my device ID is listed - the system failed to start When i dont change anything i get {censored} on my screen It seems i don't have natit installed. What can I do please? Aldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippynho Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Aldoweb, i am in the same situacion than you, i have a Mobility Radeon HD2400, sorry for my english (I'm spanish), try this: Install Leo4All v3 and don't select any driver in graphics card, doing this, the leopard will works whit a generic driver, and you can use leopard fine, the only problem is that the Hd2400 doesn't have acceleration. I have tried to install natit and modify the Radeonx2000.kext, but the problem is that there are not driver to the MOBILITY, only for the HD2400 Normal, if you install the natit, the system will boot but it shows a black screen, no problem, if you connect a External display in the VGA Port, the system Works Fine and whit Acceleration. I Was reading and the explain to this is that the natit don't support the internal display, we need to found a way to make it works. Bye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AldoWeb Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 Aldoweb, i am in the same situacion than you, i have a Mobility Radeon HD2400, sorry for my english (I'm spanish), try this: Install Leo4All v3 and don't select any driver in graphics card, doing this, the leopard will works whit a generic driver, and you can use leopard fine, the only problem is that the Hd2400 doesn't have acceleration. I have tried to install natit and modify the Radeonx2000.kext, but the problem is that there are not driver to the MOBILITY, only for the HD2400 Normal, if you install the natit, the system will boot but it shows a black screen, no problem, if you connect a External display in the VGA Port, the system Works Fine and whit Acceleration. I Was reading and the explain to this is that the natit don't support the internal display, we need to found a way to make it works. Bye! Thanks For the info Anyway the natit driver is dead certain that should work for internal monitor too but someone should find the way to talk to it I'll try Leo4all V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippynho Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Yes, and i think that the most of the drivers of your computer will work whit Leo 4 All, for me is the best and easier way to install succesfully the leopard. I am thinking in use the Mobility Radeon HD2300 Driver, this works fine in Leopard, anyway the only real solution is wait for a modified driver... See you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AldoWeb Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 Hmm ... The Mobility X2300 is nothing like ours for several reasons. It uses ATIRadeonX1000.kext and furthermore it has a PCI ID 7XXX while we are on 94c9 which means we'll have to modify the natit drivers for Radeon 2400 HD which is on the range 94c1-4 I'm not hoping for any other to solve this (As they should have a notebook to try). We have to find any solution ourselves. What we need now is to get documented on another similar solution for LVDS connectors for internal laptop monitors. If you can point me somewhere on this forum that will be helpful. Than we should try to modify any existing driver that works for other Radeons not Mobility. But It will take me some time to understand how this drivers work . If some more experienced guy would give us some directions that would be great. PS:If we could fix this graphics thing i could turn to Mac totally Aldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyo Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Someone can it will interestingly: Ati Mobility Radeon HD 2600 (M76) based on the HD 2900 desktop (R600) architecture. Mobility HD 2400 (M74 / M72) - HD 2600 (RV630) Mobility HD 2300 (M71) - HD 2400 (RV610) Management on M76 - http://www.x.org/docs/AMD/42590_m76_rrg_1.01o.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AldoWeb Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 following igyos logic we should fix our drivers with the X2300 Method above .. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippynho Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 No... i was reading and the HD 2300 is based on the X1300, but the HD2400 & HD2600 are based in the RV630, we had to center our attention in the HD2600, but i don't know too much about this... i'll try to install the Mobility HD 2600 Driver ( If it's working on Leopard ) and see whats happens. See ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sume5h Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 i have ati radeon mobilty HD 2300 i have installed kalway leopard 10.5.2 below are my display status only problem i have is Resolution:1024 x 768(cannot change) & mouse artifacts Display: Type:Display Bus:PCIe PCIe Lane Width:x16 VRAM (Total):256 MB Vendor: ATI (0x1002) Device ID:0x7210 Revision ID:0x00ce Displays: Resolution:1024 x 768 Depth:32-bit Color Core Image:Hardware Accelerated Main Display:Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported my system configuration is Acer Aspire 5720G Dual boot-XP64 & leopard10.5.2 Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile Intel GM965 Chipset ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300 RAM:3GB Intel HDA(Realtek ALC268 codec ) Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Wireless Card Broadcom BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AldoWeb Posted July 10, 2008 Author Share Posted July 10, 2008 No... i was reading and the HD 2300 is based on the X1300, but the HD2400 & HD2600 are based in the RV630, we had to center our attention in the HD2600, but i don't know too much about this... i'll try to install the Mobility HD 2600 Driver ( If it's working on Leopard ) and see whats happens. See ya! One question though On ati site there are no drivers for mobility series on Mac OS X I seems the IBook-s use Radeon HD-s not mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyo Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Zippynho, X2300 is based on the X1300, but HD2300 are based on the HD 2400 (RV610) sume5h, ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AldoWeb Posted July 10, 2008 Author Share Posted July 10, 2008 sume5hIf you need other resolutions check the threads on how you can achieve that by changing com.apple.Boot......Did you do anything after installing Kalway 10.5.2??Aldo Zippynho, X2300 is based on the X1300, but HD2300 are based on the HD 2400 (RV610)sume5h, ????The problem here is we're confusing Mobility X2300 with mobility 2300 HD.But If Sume5h has it working CI/QE it can be helpful knowing what he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippynho Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 sume5hIf you need other resolutions check the threads on how you can achieve that by changing com.apple.Boot......Did you do anything after installing Kalway 10.5.2??AldoThe problem here is we're confusing Mobility X2300 with mobility 2300 HD.But If Sume5h has it working CI/QE it can be helpful knowing what he did @Igyo, you are right, sorry hehe. Yesterday i was in the chat of this web and a user told me that a group are working on the mobility HD but for the time there aren't nothing to do... Off Topic: Somebody know how i have to do to install my integrated webcam?? ( It's a chicony Usb 2.0 ) Thanks for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_co Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 HD 2600 doesn't work at all (I haven't have image on the internal monitor of my hp 8510p). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark971 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 The first thing I do in safe boot is deleting all ATIR*.kext files, else it won't boot in normal mode, even by modifying device ID in it. Well, Natit.kext works fine but no QE/CI. Only 1024x768, modifyed with com.apple.Boot.plist to 1152x864. I want 1440x900 How did you do to get full QE/CI sume5h ? Just installed Kalyway 10.5.2 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AldoWeb Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 The first thing I do in safe boot is deleting all ATIR*.kext files, else it won't boot in normal mode, even by modifying device ID in it. Well, Natit.kext works fine but no QE/CI. Only 1024x768, modifyed with com.apple.Boot.plist to 1152x864. I want 1440x900 How did you do to get full QE/CI sume5h ? Just installed Kalyway 10.5.2 ? Natit.kext works fine with or without CE/QI but in external monitor it does not probe the Internal monitor. Natit.kext does not enable CE/QI. To enable that you have to modify info.plist inside ATIRadeonX2000.kext. This will work as your card was a ATI Radeon 2XXX(or even 3XXX) HD but this means that the intrnal monitor will not be probed sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMorocco Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 The Mobility 2300 HD (7210) is already listed in ATIRadeonX1000.kext. you don't have to write anything in the info.plist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark971 Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 No AldoWeb, this Natit.kext works with internal monitor OR external monitor. The GPU is recognized as ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT. Run in normal mode, here is my laptop : But QE/CI can't be enabled because ATIRadeonX2000.kext doesn't work AT ALL, I tryed at least 5 different IDs in it. Nothing to do, I just have a black screen or a black screen with colored points. Consequences : The resolution cannot be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sume5h Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 i installed kalway 10.5.2 using vanilla kernel QE/CI is working in both default sleep & vanilla kernel, i didn't check others i didn't modify/edit anything after installing kalway everything is default i will try to modify com.apple.Boot.plist to fix my resolution(link please if possible) i have Intel GM965 Chipset, maybe its using GMA x3100 display? or vesa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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