Macshiba Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I used the Kalyway 10.5.2 Combo Update, and it's worked fine, but I haven't installed the new kernel because of not having EFI but Darwin instead. My problem is now when I plug in USB thumb drives, it not longer mounts them. But, if I reboot my machine, it will mount them at boot, but if I unmount it and try plugging it in again it won't work. I really don't know what the problem is, but I've checked Disk Utility and it doesn't see my usb thumb drive, and it seems to only work if I do a reboot with it plugged in. Does anybody know how to fix this? It worked before I did the Combo Update. I don't know if it's a kext problem or something else, but if someone could please help me I'd really appreciate it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macshiba Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Someone help me please Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-623599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
entitas Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I am also having the same problem with ToH 10.5.1 update. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-623604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macshiba Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 I guess I'm not the only one. Even though I wish someone could help. People view this and nobody has any idea what to do. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-623612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
groox Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Hi, I've got the same problem with usb after upgrading. I've got PC-EFI installed. These is what I've done to get my usb working again. Installed the combo update again and when it came to restoring my kext's I just restores dmos and applesmbios. I rebooted my machine, the first time it rebooted, I let it go and when it started again I could get into my hacintosh with usb working. I did not do the part of going into safe mode and repairing permissions. Bye Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-623798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macshiba Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 Didn't work. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-624766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahwahman89 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Have you backed up your kexts? Copied them back? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-624793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macshiba Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 I don't know what kexts I need to backup. I'm in 10.5.2 and didn't back them up, so I don't know what kext I would need to replace. The only thing I'm having problem with is USB not remounting when I'm in the OS. If I reboot, the drive will mount, but if I unmount it and then plug another usb drive in it won't mount, but it will show up in System Profiler. It says "USB MASS STORAGE DEVICE" and under that it says USB DISK, but OS X doesn't actually let me use it. I know it's not the drive because it worked before I updated to 10.5.2. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-624831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenMatrix Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I backed up all my kexts and replaced them after the update and have the same exact problem, if my USB devices are not plugged in on boot then they will not be use able until I reboot with them plugged in. They show up in my System Profiler all the time. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-624875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCopter Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 i had the same problem till installed efi mbr and the kernel update. then my usb was mounting again. i am using Zephyroth AMD 10.5.1 and my issue was exactly as you described. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-625091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macshiba Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 Well, I can't install EFI because doesn't that need a Core processor or something similar? I don't have the new kernel either because I have Darwin bootloader not EFI because I don't think EFI will work on my system. Does anybody have any other solution. Please don't just let this go unnoticed because it's a huge problem for people who can't have EFI. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-625221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenMatrix Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I'm using an EFI setup and my system still doesn't want to mount or initiate USB hardware unless it was plugged in @ boot....So I doubt it's EFI. Using MBR as well mind you. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-625534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Badger Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 From all my reading of the combo it suggests that the kexts are touched when you do the update, so restoring them won't make a difference. Have you tried installing Netkas' latest 10.5.2 Universal kernel (SSE2/3 Speedstep) to see if this solves the problem? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-625550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macshiba Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 I haven't tried that, but when I tried Kalyway's kernel for 10.5.2 I had to reload my mach_kernel because it wouldn't boot. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-625641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
entitas Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I thought that EFI should be the answer and installed EFI v8 to ToH 10.5 and after all said and done nothing is working and the system is not booting now. I think EFI does not support SSE2, am I correct ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-625802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macshiba Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 EFI is only for c2d and SSE2 I believe. I have an SSE3 P4 machine, but no c2d or cduo, therefore I don't believe I can run EFI. I think someone needs to come out with a patch. This update never once said anything about needing EFI, therefore I got screwed. Thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-626310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Salad Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 if you desperately want your USB device recognized (isnt a permanent fix will have to do it everytime)... then type these bold commands in terminal sudo su - then type your password rm -rf /System/Library/Extensions/caches then exit close terminal wait a few seconds and voila! usb device recognized! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-626408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macshiba Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 Didn't work.. All I get is this: rm: /System/Library/Extensions/caches/com.apple.kext.info: Permission denied rm: /System/Library/Extensions/caches: Directory not empty I don't know why.. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-626577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroXX Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I made a script as a work-around for this situation. Here's what you need to do: 1. Open TextEdit. 2. Copy this code, replacing the "password" with your root password. #!/bin/sh echo "password" | sudo -S rm -rf /System/Library/Extensions/Caches/ 3. Save the file, naming to whatever.command 4. Open System Preferences, Accounts. 5. Under the Login Items, add the whatever.command. That's it. The script basically deletes the Caches every time you boot up, so the problem is fixed for now. Beware, that this method exposes your password, because the file is a text file basically. So only use this method if you can prevent exploiting your password. (in example change owner to root:wheel, then change the permissions to 300) Credits go to Hyper Salad for figuring this out. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-627022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macshiba Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 I choose the file, but I tried to run it at first, and it said I didn't have permission? I'm the Administrator and I have no password as this is my own computer and nobody else uses, so I left it blank. How do I go about adding the root:wheel to the permissions? I rebooted, and it told me it couldn't run because I don't have permission, so I really don't know how to add the permissions. I tried to change them by clicking Get Info, and I also tried sudo -s and then typing chown root:wheel and the path, but it told me permission denied. EDIT: I finally got the permissions correct, and it loads and says Process Complete, but doesn't help. If I plug in a USB drive it won't mount still. I guess I'm just screwed and have no more USB thanks to this update. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-627102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRoper Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 had the exact same issue, what solved this for me was to replace the applesmbios file with a fixed one depending on your kernel. i'm using the netkas one currently I choose the file, but I tried to run it at first, and it said I didn't have permission? I'm the Administrator and I have no password as this is my own computer and nobody else uses, so I left it blank. How do I go about adding the root:wheel to the permissions? I rebooted, and it told me it couldn't run because I don't have permission, so I really don't know how to add the permissions. I tried to change them by clicking Get Info, and I also tried sudo -s and then typing chown root:wheel and the path, but it told me permission denied. EDIT: I finally got the permissions correct, and it loads and says Process Complete, but doesn't help. If I plug in a USB drive it won't mount still. I guess I'm just screwed and have no more USB thanks to this update. EDIT: Seems like i'm having USB issues still. but slightly different ... Anywhere from 10min to an hour or two and my keyboard and mouse become unresponsive. i can see activity on the desktop. but unplug and replug the mouse doens't work, then i simply have to hardboot. . / Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-627297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macshiba Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 I'm using the kernel from the iATKOS 1.0i r2 build. Anybody know which AppleSMBios file I'd need? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-628071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
entitas Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Installation of new 9.2.0 kernel from Netkas site did the favour and now I can get my USB devices to work simultaneously with Leopard. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-630141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macshiba Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 Installation of new 9.2.0 kernel from Netkas site did the favour and now I can get my USB devices to work simultaneously with Leopard. Could you explain to me the steps you did in installing the new kernel? Because I tried replacing mach_kernel with the new one, but when I boot my PC it still loads my original kernel somehow and I'm not sure how to install the new kernel. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-630629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
groox Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Hi, I don't know about the kernel , because I didn't have to replace mach_kernel file. I did replaced AppleSMBIOS from my backed up kexts after doing the upgrade to 10.5.2. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87584-usb-problems-after-1052-update/#findComment-630721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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