KirbySaysHi Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I've got that damn JMicron IDE controller, and I'm sick of it. However, I still need at least one PATA connection. Has anyone found an IDE expansion card that works reliably with Leopard? I've been searching for a day now, and occasionally I read of "lists of ones that work" but never the list itself. Does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87578-ide-pci-cards-with-leopard-any-success/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbySaysHi Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 Bump. No one? I really need this... even a place to start would be extremely helpful, I'm sure especially to all those p35-ds3x users out there with 4gb or more ram and a bunch of hard drives... maybe I'm better off building a file server computer. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87578-ide-pci-cards-with-leopard-any-success/#findComment-625117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
radov4n Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Bump. No one? I really need this... even a place to start would be extremely helpful, I'm sure especially to all those p35-ds3x users out there with 4gb or more ram and a bunch of hard drives... maybe I'm better off building a file server computer. Yeah.. as I said before man, it will be stupidly hard to find one. How about a USB<->IDE bridge? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87578-ide-pci-cards-with-leopard-any-success/#findComment-625121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbySaysHi Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 Ok. Some more research turned up these cards: For a real mac: http://www.acard.com/english/fb01-product....mp;type1_idno=3 For a pc (and cheaper): http://www.acard.com/english/fb01-product....mp;type1_idno=3 Apparently the only difference is the firmware. So my question is: which one should I get given the specs of my desktop in my signature? I could really use a knowledgeable response! EDIT: Or, I could buy another sata card.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16816132008 and two ide to sata converters: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16812206002 it's more expensive, but it's practically guaranteed to work, according to the 10.5.1 HCL. comments? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87578-ide-pci-cards-with-leopard-any-success/#findComment-625279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prspectiv2 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that no PCI cards are supported on ANY intel macs, including hackintosh. Official Apple hardware doesn't support legacy PCI, only pci express. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87578-ide-pci-cards-with-leopard-any-success/#findComment-625398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Storm Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 There will be zero support unless a driver is available on your DVD for X. I've tried lots of cards at work for just this reason and they all don't work. They had chips ranging from Silicon Image, Promise Technology. It seems very few (if any) of the PCI expansion cards use standard chipsets, but rather allot of expansion cards use chipsets that are pseudo RAID chip controllers. I would not bet the farm just yet that the PCI-E SATA controller will work. Unless you are sure that Mac OS X has drivers for that controller, or if the controller has an emulation mode that mimics standard IDE drives. USB/Firewire may be your best option at the moment untill a nice expansion card that is X friendly is available. I always get new cards at work, I'd be willing to test them out. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87578-ide-pci-cards-with-leopard-any-success/#findComment-625463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbySaysHi Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 Thanks a lot for the replies! And thanks prspectiv2 for that info, I was unaware of that. According to this post the Rosewill card comes with a kext to install... it's encouraging at least. radov4n: is there a way to do that internally? That's my main concern: I don't want external drives. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87578-ide-pci-cards-with-leopard-any-success/#findComment-625783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
radov4n Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Well if no PCI cards are supported, then why my PCI 8139d Realtek based NIC worked out of the box? Yeah, you should have internal usb plugs on your mobo; just reroute them to the USB-IDE bridge and keep it inside the box. For example one of the USB that leads to the front panel. I think some of internal HDD enclosures (those that fit in 5" bay) have USB bridges. It's a bit of an extra pain, but I have done that before and it worked alright. Let me know. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87578-ide-pci-cards-with-leopard-any-success/#findComment-626143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Storm Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Real Macintosh machines no longer support PCI devices, with only the Mac Pro systems having PCI-E expansion ability. Standard X86 hardware will support PCI for some time, but the main issue is that you need drivers. An example is the work Taruga is doing with regards to sound cards on motherboards running OS X 86. These are PCI devices but each motherboard has unique ways of implementing hardware as each vendor designs chips differently. I tried about 5 different ALC883 dumps for my board and none worked till finally I just installed Linux on the box and dumped the codec myself. So there is a prime example of how complex the chips can be. Alot of work has been done to patch OS X86 to recognize the more common PCI devices like wireless devices but even then sometimes a little "jiggery pokery" as Sylvester Mcoy used to say is required to get something working. At work I have probably 2 or 3 generic no-name PCI SATA/IDE controller boards and I will try each one and see if there are any drivers. I can also check my suppliers as they often will list what chip is used. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87578-ide-pci-cards-with-leopard-any-success/#findComment-626656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbySaysHi Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 Chaos Storm, thanks for the info and offer to try out some cards. Let me know how it goes! I've heard good things about Silicon Image chipsets... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87578-ide-pci-cards-with-leopard-any-success/#findComment-627801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbySaysHi Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 I just wanted to report back that YES, all of the hardware I posted earlier worked. For more details, read my reply to this thread: 4GB of ram random kernel panics. YES! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87578-ide-pci-cards-with-leopard-any-success/#findComment-646963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiceTry Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I just wanted to report back that YES, all of the hardware I posted earlier worked. For more details, read my reply to this thread: 4GB of ram random kernel panics.YES! I got the ACARD 6280. The BIOS now sees it and the attached disks but OS X does not. Did you have to install anything additional to get it all to work? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/87578-ide-pci-cards-with-leopard-any-success/#findComment-856174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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