Alessandro17 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I am not a communist, I don't think that everybody should make the same amount of money. Doctors should obviously make more than janitors, and work should be performance based, meaning you do a better job, you get paid more. But if somebody is working full-time and cant even pay the bills, theres a problem there, a problem that needs to be addressed. Exactly. I am sure the vast majority of Italians agree with you. While there are few thousands people who became filthy rich in the transition between Lire and Euro, by unreasonably increasing prices (and supported bu the government of the day), the vast majority of Italians find themselves with the same income they had in 2000, but with the cost of living doubled. Clearly surviving on a salary/wages has become extremely difficult. Now we have general election, but talking about redistribution has become a taboo. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/85828-the-robin-hood-philosophy/page/2/#findComment-624804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 the vast majority of Italians find themselves with the same income they had in 2000, but with the cost of living doubled. Clearly surviving on a salary/wages has become extremely difficult. It's similar in the US. I wouldn't say that cost of living has doubled since 2000, but in the past eight years its increased significantly and wages haven't. Thankfully our congress passed the Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007, which is raising the federal minimum wage up from $5.15. (states can decide minimum wages, many have wages higher than federal, some have wages lower. My state, Florida, has a minimum wage of $6.67) The act raises the federal minimum wage in 3 increments: to $5.85 per hour 60 days after enactment (2007-07-24), to $6.55 per hour 12 months after that (2008-07-24), and finally to $7.25 per hour 12 months after that (2009-07-24). This is very much needed in the United States, because currently minimum wages are starvation wages. The graph found here is very interesting. It clearly shows that since the 1960's, minimum wage in 2007 dollars has gone down. I looked up the minimum wage of Italy on Wikipedia, and found that there was none. Is the current system (no minimum wage) working? (If I am misunderstanding something, please correct me) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/85828-the-robin-hood-philosophy/page/2/#findComment-624823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I looked up the minimum wage of Italy on Wikipedia, and found that there was none. Is the current system (no minimum wage) working? (If I am misunderstanding something, please correct me) That is correct, there isn't any. A no minimum wages system doesn't work, IMO, as some people work for € 500 a month, or even less. One of our current candidates for premier (Mr Veltroni) says he will introduce one at around € 1000 a month (which is still very little). But even that could be a big step forward if it was done and if it worked, which I doubt, because many people work illegally. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/85828-the-robin-hood-philosophy/page/2/#findComment-624859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(MoC) Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 Yeah, I agree with Alessandro. No minimum wages mean that companies can take advantage of employees meaning basic profit from their pocket. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/85828-the-robin-hood-philosophy/page/2/#findComment-637637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killbot1000 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Yeah, I agree with Alessandro. No minimum wages mean that companies can take advantage of employees meaning basic profit from their pocket. Add Killbot1000 to the mix on agreement here. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/85828-the-robin-hood-philosophy/page/2/#findComment-638234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(MoC) Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 No thx k bai Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/85828-the-robin-hood-philosophy/page/2/#findComment-639946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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