janeinja Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 hi, just installed mac os x 1.4.3 with jas patches on my amd64 3200+ (without SSE3) & ati 9800pro (QE and CI are supported). everthing works fine, the only annoying problem is that the gui is pretty slow. for example scrolling in safari. have tried camino & firefox - same problem. anybody has the same prob? i guess this not a 'feature' of mac os x Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigxcpu Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 try to use maxxuss sse2 ati driver. maybe it helps. there were some complaints around here regarding this issue (amd + ati). also, use maxxuss update 1.1 for coregraphics. should speed up things a little bit. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-49012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
habitual Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I am running 8f1111 10.4.3 on a 3-4 year old dell 4550 (SSE2 Pentium 4 2.66ghz, 1 gig ram, Ati radeon 9550) and the gui is very fast. I had a geforce card in there and it was a little slow but as soon as I put in the supported ATI card it is now very fast. Window resizing and scrolling in safari, and other apps is really smooth, actually as fast as on windows xp on the same machine. Maybe do a search for AppleTCMACPI and if you find a kext in the extensions folder delete that. Check activity monitor and see what your cpu percentage is. It should not be more than 1 -5 percent when it is idle. I am thinking that there is somethign wrong because with your hardware it shoudl be lightning fast. Also, try the maxxuss tuning package. That seemed to speed mine up a little. What is your Xbench scores? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-49078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeinja Posted January 27, 2006 Author Share Posted January 27, 2006 (edited) try to use maxxuss sse2 ati driver. maybe it helps. there were some complaints around here regarding this issue (amd + ati). also, use maxxuss update 1.1 for coregraphics. should speed up things a little bit. just did the updates. browsing still feels not as fast as i'm used to from win, but i think i gained a little speed thru the updates. minimizing windows, moving windows and so on is fast, but when it comes to scrolling .. hmm ... it just feels a lot slower than in win. my user interface score (xbench overall score is around 42) seem to reflect that: 17 points anyway mac os x is still a great system thanks a lot for your help Edited January 27, 2006 by janeinja Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-49141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigxcpu Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 it depends where you scroll. i've noticed different gui/scrolling speeds during a session, dunnot why, but i've also noticed that scrolling in web pages with a lot of <td>'s is very slow. and this is browser related, not necessary mac. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-49206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammybk Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I am in the same situation as the OP. GUI speed is incredibly slow. THere is a lag between typing and the characters showing up on the screen. All gui features seem to run slowly. All the time I am running at about 4%CPU, so that shouldn't be the problem. My cursor also disappears or stalls at random times. I have noticed it disappears whenever I begin typing. Could this be some sort of hardware conflict? I am on much the same machine as the OP: Athlon64 3000+ (socket 939, winchester, no SSE3) Radeon 9700pro 8F1111A Patched with Jas & Maxxuss patches Gigabyte K8NS939 (Nforce3) AC97 audio. Other devices not being used by MacOS: Audigy 3DFX Voodoo3 PS2 Keyboard Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-54813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I noticed this problem only when I have the laptop running on Battery, is you try this, start the computer with A/C power connected, them everything is fast, just for testing if you remove the A/C you will noticed again this problem. I'm using Dell D600 10.4.3 8f1111, works great but alwyas on A/C external I think is an issue with Power management Please check to see that is the same issue. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-54839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammybk Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I am on a desktop, not a notebook, but I will check the power management settings. I installed the Maxuss 1.1 patch and it didn't seem to help one bit. I still nbeed to wait about 20 seconds for senences I write to show up all the way. It only displays about 2 characters per second when I am typing into text boxes (in firefox). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-54846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammybk Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Okay, I feel like an idiot now. My Radeon 9700Pro drivers must not be setup correctly, because I am getting scores of 0.4 to 1.5 in the Quartz graphics section of Xbench. Everything else is coming up in the 80-180 range. Anyone know if there is a certain driver I should install for the 9700pro? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-54862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenopod Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 i had exactly this problem until i got a 9 gig 5200 hard drive and stuck osx 10.4..3 on that , now speeds are alot better in fact about 200% on my system Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-54968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbjonas Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I don't think this will solve your problem, but I am using a simple boot.plist edit to speed up my graphics a bit. It helps since I am running a Nvidia card and am stuck with VESA 3.0 You can change your graphics from 32bit to 16 bit... I think I read that it reduces the graphics processing overhead by 33%, and I for one (although I'm red/green colorblind) can't tell the difference in number of colors displayed. I just changed: <key>Graphics Mode</key> <string>1024X768X16@85</string> I used to have X32, and I hear VESA doesn't do 24 bit, so 16 it is! There's a whole thread about this on here somewhere. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-54974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammybk Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I just disabled Quartz Extreme, and it sped everything up drastically. Doesn't look quite as pretty, but I would rather have functionality than looks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-54999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I just disabled Quartz Extreme, and it sped everything up drastically. Doesn't look quite as pretty, but I would rather have functionality than looks. How do you do that? I have the same problem video is very slooooow. Thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-56657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
druida Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 How do you do that? I have the same problem video is very slooooow. Thanks Hi, only install devolvers tools after execute quartzdebug -> disable QE. PD: sorry for my bad english. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-57307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbjonas Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Developer tools once you install them you can also try messing with 'beam sync' - search the forum for that phrase. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-57324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktz Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Same problem. QE CI enable but very slow gui in software like Logic Pro etc.. 7600GT Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/7811-slow-gui/#findComment-1285486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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