A question about Tiger Installation...

[A modder]

First off I would like to say I am pretty new to the OSx86 Project so

go easy on me!

 

However I have tried out a hacked MacOS X (10.4.6) on my machine and

it worked very well and now I would like to purchase a copy of

Mac OS Tiger (or Leopard) so I can register it without getting in trouble.

Now (my first question) are all Mac OS X discs normal DVD's or Mac DVD's?

And if Mac OS X comes on normal DVD's can I patch them myself or do

I have to own a Mac OS Dev kit to do so? Thanks for reading.

 

KOMET

[Rufus T. Firefly]

You could patch a retail dvd but this method can be confusing for newbies

 

Retail DVD of OS X do not run on PC's

 

Stick with hacked DVD's. There is no reason to register

[A modder]

Ok, I understood that you can not run a retail DVD on a PC

but is it possible to use the Internet without the OS registering

itself? I mean I'm fine using it offline but can you point me in the

direction of a tutorial explaining how to patch a retail disc (I'm

just curious).

 

Thanks for responding though.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I'm using OS X right now and it does not register itself

[limini]

Ok, I understood that you can not run a retail DVD on a PC

but is it possible to use the Internet without the OS registering

itself?

I understand your anxiety but the reality is that Apple knows very well what goes on here and the fact that they haven't intevened so far implies that they are letting it happen. Some reasons:

 

- It's still somewhat difficult to install OSX on non-Apple hardware and that's a big detractor for most people; only a comparative few have the knowledge, time, resources and patience to do this.

- Apple keeps referring to themselves as a hardware company and letting people "play" with their os seems to be a winning strategy: like many others here, I bought my first Mac after spending time dicking with a hackintosh. I wouldn't have had the opportunity otherwise.

- What keeps most of us using OSX after the thrill of installing it in the first place says much about how well it's put together.

- Many of us are likely in a position of advising less saavy friends and relatives about their computer purchases. I've found myself suggesting to many to get a Mac, considering how less susceptible it is to viruses and spyware and many stupid os cockups.

 

I'm not saying that Apple won't one day put their foot down, but I think that for now they must appreciate that the benefits this community brings to their cause far outweighs any of the negative effects. Besides, the Apple and PC hardware convergence that has allowed this is relatively recent and nothing says they won't diverge in the future, taking any who want to keep working with OSX (or its future equivalent) with them.

 

So you can avoid the internet if you want. But I don't think anyone else here does. And as mentioned, OSX doesn't register itself like the OS from that other OS company...

[A modder]

I understand your anxiety but the reality is that Apple knows very well what goes on here and the fact that they haven't intevened so far implies that they are letting it happen. Some reasons:

 

- It's still somewhat difficult to install OSX on non-Apple hardware and that's a big detractor for most people; only a comparative few have the knowledge, time, resources and patience to do this.

- Apple keeps referring to themselves as a hardware company and letting people "play" with their os seems to be a winning strategy: like many others here, I bought my first Mac after spending time dicking with a hackintosh. I wouldn't have had the opportunity otherwise.

- What keeps most of us using OSX after the thrill of installing it in the first place says much about how well it's put together.

- Many of us are likely in a position of advising less saavy friends and relatives about their computer purchases. I've found myself suggesting to many to get a Mac, considering how less susceptible it is to viruses and spyware and many stupid os cockups.

 

I'm not saying that Apple won't one day put their foot down, but I think that for now they must appreciate that the benefits this community brings to their cause far outweighs any of the negative effects. Besides, the Apple and PC hardware convergence that has allowed this is relatively recent and nothing says they won't diverge in the future, taking any who want to keep working with OSX (or its future equivalent) with them.

 

So you can avoid the internet if you want. But I don't think anyone else here does. And as mentioned, OSX doesn't register itself like the OS from that other OS company...

 

OK, thanks for giving me a better perspective on this. I know that some of the most simple

things that I can do on any other OS may not be avaliable to me on a Hackintosh but I was

just curios about it. All of these little things can be very hard to come by, even with the

help of Google and the OSx86 Wiki. I also have to agree with you about this community

bringing more popularity to Mac software, I mean just look at the iPod Touch and iPhone

hacking community! People are now buying iPods just to hack them! What I just do not understand is why don't they just allow any normal user to go out, buy a copy of Mac OS

and let them legally install it on a non Apple labeled product? But whatever that should belong in another thread.

 

Anyways, thanks for answering my question and lol @ the other OS!

[Rufus T. Firefly]

One theory about opening up OS X is that: if Apple were to allow OS X to run on PC's it could enevitably turn into what Windows is; which is a platform that caters to viruses and hardware issues.

 

Although there is a flip side to this, it could possibly make Apple even richer.

 

It's a complicated issue. Then there is the issue that OS X is basically a form of Linux which is open source but Apple wrapped it up and is selling it as their own

[A modder]

One theory about opening up OS X is that: if Apple were to allow OS X to run on PC's it could enevitably turn into what Windows is; which is a platform that caters to viruses and hardware issues.

 

Although there is a flip side to this, it could possibly make Apple even richer.

 

It's a complicated issue. Then there is the issue that OS X is basically a form of Linux which is open source but Apple wrapped it up and is selling it as their own

 

Yes, although Mac OS X is not exactly Linux, its based off Unix (I think) along with Linux, although if you ask me Apple's answer to being open is Darwin. Well then again I can't really

say that because I know very little about Darwin besides it being an open version of OS X.

But if Mac OS X became open I doubt it would become a malware infested Hellhole like Windows (not saying Windows is horrible but it has its weaknesses). Nontheless I would think it would become sort of a mix between Windows and Linux; it would be nice and open and would be great for developers AND your everyday user.

But who can say?