thestevo Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 The BrazilMac patching should take care of the kernel change, you would have the option of replacing the kernel with one newer yet after the patching process if you so choose. The PPF is kinda like this: when you create one you take two files, technically I think it can be any two files, and it compares them. Lets say, just for the purpose of illustration, that they are analyzed in blocks. If out of blocks A, B, and C, C is the only block that is different then it adds an image of block C to the patch. When the patch is applied it directly copies blocks A and B from whatever original you tell it to start with and tacks the image of block C on the end. That is why it is essential to start with the same data when you patch. If the sizes are different or the files are different it will throw off the result of the patch. It doesn't necessarily modify or replace files, it just changes ones and zeros. If you start one zero off you have a problem. So, for instance, and this is probably an over dramatization but if this guy modified his ethernet kext and added a DEV ID to the plist then that would make the entire image larger. Everything that comes after that kext in binary data would be, say, 256 bytes farther over than it should be and would be over-written with the patch without regard to file structure or placement. The PPF program outputs changes as it is told to make as per the instructions in the patch. It doesn't know whether it produced a valid image or not. It just does what it is told to do. You could tell it to use my patch on a tiff file and it would give an output, it wouldn't be any good though. The virgin one that you got popped up with a "Still waiting for root device" error most likely. If you use -v on the virgin one that's what you'll get. It runs forever because it keeps waiting for the root device, it doesn't mean it hasn't encountered an error. If you had a corrupted download, or merely a different image, that you applied the patch to it could have screwed up any number of essential files for the boot process. Possibly even to the point that Darwin couldn't open the file, let alone find useless data. Hopefully that helps. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-525520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Nah I would have liked the waiting for root device problem. It actually got quite a way into the boot process and then the board rebooted. I guess I wait for iATKOS Would it be possible to re-patch the virgin ISO with the BrazilMac again - or is that so stupid as to be laughable? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-525525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ounas Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Got the Link from IRC, if its the same? Thanks riws Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-525967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeshifter Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 PPF-O-Matic crashes on my Mac Mini with Leopard and on my Dell laptop with 10.4.6. First I select the ISO. When I go to select the patch file it crashes. The readme says that applyppf is included with the distribution I downloaded but I can't figure out how to extract it. I can right-click and Open-With and browse but don't directly see anything. Thought I had it resolved when I hooked up my USB Mac-formatted drive to my PC running MacDrive. Applied the patch OK that way but now I can't restore that ISO file back on the Mac. I can still restore the other Brazilmac ISO I had created, so I can only assume that applying the PPF messed it up somehow. May have been due to Vista and MacDrive. I'll try applying the patch to the ISO I'm restoring right now in case the other ISO was corrupt beforehand. A handy link to a working applyppf command line app would be nice. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-526019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeshifter Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 It's definitely related to moving the drive to Vista with MacDrive and / or running the patch. The ISO file that just worked now gives the same error in Disk Utility: Restore Failure - An error (2) occurred while copying. (No such file or directory) (note: I'm using the bootable partition method rather than burning to DVD, which has worked fine with the other images I've worked with) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-526053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeshifter Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 OK, figured I'd burn it and try. Here's what I get when I boot with -v -x Darwin/x86 boot v5.0.132 3096MB memory VESA v3.0 256MB (NVIDIA) Loading Darwin/x86 Loading kernel mach_kernel Loading HFS+ file: [mach_kernel] from 4230450 Loading HFS+ file: [mach_kernel] from 4230450 _ The last line, flashing cursor, just blinks and nothing else happens. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-526126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ounas Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 PPF-O-Matic does not work with 10.4.9 is there a command line version. Can someone help Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-526326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestevo Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 tombo- you should be able to patch the virgin ISO, as in how Apple distributed it, and get a good result. I'm not sure where to find applyppf per se, however you can't use open with. You'll have to cd in terminal to the folder that contains the command and then do something like ./applyppf something of that sort. You could get a DOS emulator and run the Windows CLI version. You could use crossover and run the Windows GUI version. You could use ubuntu and run the Linux version. The PPF should not have messed up the file, it spits out a file like any other application. If you did something wrong in the process of patching it, it may not run... but you still should be able to copy the file to your HFS+ through MacDrive. And yes, PPF-O-Matic should work with 10.4.9. That is what I'm currently using and what I used when I created the patch, it works. There are work-arounds for certain instabilities out there, but fortunately I've never seen any in my work with the application. The end of the week still no iATKOS. I wish they would release it and fix anything in PPF later, they said they would release it... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-526477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwk_soul Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Can't you make a version of your patch for ToH RC2? Thanks in advance! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-533412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Well I finally (finally!!) got back to this with a virgin image which I applied Brazilmac to and then applied the PPF to. I booted up on my 4CoreDual-VSTA and .......... reboot!! With -v it looks like it reboots right after it tries to load the VIARhine driver. (that is to say the last thing I see on the screen is something about the VIARhine.kext loading) Any Ideas?? (Besides iAtkos and Kalyway) Tom Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-546525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestevo Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 Hello everybody, I've now tested Kalyway and iATKOS on both the ASRock 775Dual-VSTA and the E520, and I have a distinct recommendation. I believe that at this point in time that the Kalyway disc is the best one. Not only will it boot on both systems, with the Dell E520 in ICH8 and ICH8R, but it also has SSE2 support though it is rather hit or miss. However, the one gotcha is that the Kalyway won't recognize the ASRock SATA. The Uphuck DVD wouldn't even boot on the ASRock. I tried -v -legacy -cpus=1 and anything else I could think of and it wouldn't go past loading the mkext. Though, I will say that I did make a significant change of my ASRock system lately. I switched the E6300 that was in it with the D930 that was in my E520. I did so because the Dell uses DDRII, has better SATA controllers, and then allows for PCEFI (Which is AWESOME by the way). So, I can't guarantee that the switch doesn't have a part to play, but I don't think so because the kernel is the same for both and they are both dual core with 64bit. So, the deal is when I have time I will fix the Kalyway disc. I think its a good distribution, a decent amount of drivers, and seems to fit the bill for now. I have the feeling that Uphuck's experience will produce a better installation disc in time, but for now I think Kalyway is distinctly better. The only complaint that people have is that it is "ugly" because of the orange background in the finder window. However, that is easily fixed by going into the view options, setting the color to white, and then hitting use as default. That changes it back to normal. After I fixed that I saw less changed with this distro than with iATKOS, I may have missed something. For those of you pursuing my previous patch method, I don't mean to leave you hanging but it is no longer an efficient use of your time. Reasons being: NO POST PATCH! You can do a whole disc as one partition and not have to fix it afterward. You get 10.5.1, not GM. Kalyway has a few preinstalled applications. If you use an E520 you can use PCEFI, but you don't need my ASRock SATA patch to do that, its available to you right now. Using Kalyway to start from gives us a common point to patch from. It will greatly reduce the chances of problems with getting a working end result if we have a common starting point. I'm sure you can figure out where to acquire this starting point. *cough* bay *cough* For those curious, the big highlights of advantages of iATKOS over Kalyway? x3100 support, we don't use it. And NO! GMA X3100 is not the same as GMA X3000 and its not a DEV ID difference look on Wikipedia. Speedstep. Greater range of non-mobo specific patches. This should be a small ppf. I think I'll only need to be changing two files; however I haven't dug into how Kalyway handles it all. Please ask if you have any questions. And, tombo, if you can't acquire the materials for my new patch then message me personally and I'll try to assist this problem. I'd rather keep it out of the thread so as to focus on the hardware that the patch was designed for. I wish I had a 4Core because I have suspicion that the 8237S is far more different from the A than everybody else says. There shouldn't be this many issues between the two boards otherwise. Stevo Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-548181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
olmirror Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Just on quick question, did you get Kalyway to work on your dualvsta straight out of the box? I had no luck with the ATkos: reboots. As to your remark gerading the 4coredual sataII: it does seem more responsive then the previous version. The sata i a lot faster and for some reason the board seems more stable. Could be Ijust illusion though. Anyway, thanks for any input on getting the Kalyway running on our boards... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-548202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugis Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Hello everybody, I've now tested Kalyway and iATKOS on both the ASRock 775Dual-VSTA and the E520, and I have a distinct recommendation. I believe that at this point in time that the Kalyway disc is the best one. Not only will it boot on both systems, with the Dell E520 in ICH8 and ICH8R, but it also has SSE2 support though it is rather hit or miss. However, the one gotcha is that the Kalyway won't recognize the ASRock SATA. The Uphuck DVD wouldn't even boot on the ASRock. I tried -v -legacy -cpus=1 and anything else I could think of and it wouldn't go past loading the mkext. Though, I will say that I did make a significant change of my ASRock system lately. I switched the E6300 that was in it with the D930 that was in my E520. I did so because the Dell uses DDRII, has better SATA controllers, and then allows for PCEFI (Which is AWESOME by the way). So, I can't guarantee that the switch doesn't have a part to play, but I don't think so because the kernel is the same for both and they are both dual core with 64bit. So, the deal is when I have time I will fix the Kalyway disc. I think its a good distribution, a decent amount of drivers, and seems to fit the bill for now. I have the feeling that Uphuck's experience will produce a better installation disc in time, but for now I think Kalyway is distinctly better. The only complaint that people have is that it is "ugly" because of the orange background in the finder window. However, that is easily fixed by going into the view options, setting the color to white, and then hitting use as default. That changes it back to normal. After I fixed that I saw less changed with this distro than with iATKOS, I may have missed something. For those of you pursuing my previous patch method, I don't mean to leave you hanging but it is no longer an efficient use of your time. Reasons being: NO POST PATCH! You can do a whole disc as one partition and not have to fix it afterward. You get 10.5.1, not GM. Kalyway has a few preinstalled applications. If you use an E520 you can use PCEFI, but you don't need my ASRock SATA patch to do that, its available to you right now. Using Kalyway to start from gives us a common point to patch from. It will greatly reduce the chances of problems with getting a working end result if we have a common starting point. I'm sure you can figure out where to acquire this starting point. *cough* bay *cough* For those curious, the big highlights of advantages of iATKOS over Kalyway? x3100 support, we don't use it. And NO! GMA X3100 is not the same as GMA X3000 and its not a DEV ID difference look on Wikipedia. Speedstep. Greater range of non-mobo specific patches. This should be a small ppf. I think I'll only need to be changing two files; however I haven't dug into how Kalyway handles it all. Please ask if you have any questions. And, tombo, if you can't acquire the materials for my new patch then message me personally and I'll try to assist this problem. I'd rather keep it out of the thread so as to focus on the hardware that the patch was designed for. I wish I had a 4Core because I have suspicion that the 8237S is far more different from the A than everybody else says. There shouldn't be this many issues between the two boards otherwise. Stevo Hi Stevo, Thanks for all help with these Asrock VIA motherboards, Just a quick couple of questions and stuff I have managed to get past the constant reboot with the iATKOS dvd by inserting(via transmac) the hacked kernel that is mentioned in another thread(Thanks olmirror ).it installs no probs(with cpus=1 -v) Only now the installed Leopard reboots even with lots different flags tried (cpus=1 -v -l) Now i would like to ask what your ppf does with regards to an iso? As now ive managed to get the iso to install and partially boot will your ppf help with the reboots? BTW i own the 4coreDual VSTA bios 2.1 NON sata2 E2180 DDR2 and 7600GT PCIe thanks and great work done so far. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-548431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestevo Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 Olmirror, the Kalyway worked right out of the box. However there was no SATA. It booted properly and saw my PATA drive. Hugis, I have no intention releasing a patch for iATKOS and the Kalyway isn't done yet. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-548731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugis Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Cheers Stevo, Ditching iATKOS. Ill D/L kayway as you have alot more experience than me All the best for Christmas. I will to have a go with the new patch when you make it public. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-549997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Sorry for asking here I have a ASROCK 4CORE-VSTA and your 10.4.8 installer did the trick (except for PCiE that was never recognized) Now I have formatted and reinstalled using Kalyway but since your 775 installer says "for 10.4.8" I have not installed it. Do I need to patch the kalyway and reinstall everything to have your drivers to work or is there another solution that allows me to install the drivers on my installed 10.5.1? TIA Great job! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-552461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugis Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Hi stevo, I downloaded the Kalyway 10.5.1 and managed to install without any flags(-v -l etc) pata dvd to pata hdd. But when it came to installing I did not know whether to do the vanilla install, So i gave it a go but alas no boot on reboot,did you do the vanilla install? Cheers. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-552469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbif Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Hopefully I can share some info with you all that may be of use : I have the Dual775 Vsta Asrock Mobo and I recently installed the ToH 9A581 RC2 DVD of Leopard, TheStevo Dual775Vsta package for Sata, sound and Viarhine installs great and everything functions For Wifi I used the Ralink install package which works great with my Belkin F5D7050 v3 usb Great work everyone who contributes to these packages Haven't tried to update yet but I'm happy with this Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-555165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Rosbif Are you meaning you installed the package listed in the 10.4.8 thread or a different (maybe newer) one?????? Thank you Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-555905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbif Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Rosbif Are you meaning you installed the package listed in the 10.4.8 thread or a different (maybe newer) one?????? Thank you The package on the 10.4.8 thread I was quite surprised when everything worked Hope it works for you § it's great to have sound and sata.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-555920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 The package on the 10.4.8 thread I was quite surprised when everything worked Hope it works for you § it's great to have sound and sata.... WOW It worked for me too No I have to manage the PCiE problem to enable QE and res change on the video I'll take a closer look at some plist. I'll let you know! Thank You Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-556533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleisch Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Hi everyone... I'm also still using asrock 775 dual-vsta and installed kalyway without bigger problems. I also applied the patches for sata, sound and networking as done in tiger. it works, sata is there, sound as usual. Network card works aswell, but sometimes it just looses the connection to my router. it still shows up connected and all green in network settings. but i can't even get a connection to the router. I can provoke that error by starting a video conference on ichat. after a few seconds i get an error and most of the time the internet connection is gone... has anybody had similar problems? help needed cheers fleisch Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-567900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsXsO Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 hi fleisch same problems here on 4coredual-vsta with lan connection.. i used first via rhine and the i changed to a realtek 8139d but get the same problem... i changed ionetworking.kext with original one.. same result.. i tried tiger kext same problem .. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-568330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadeo Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Would be nice if you are able to make this PPF or Patch for the Kalyway 10.5.1 ISO Intel SSE2_SSE3 Iso. This would be fantastic trough i only own that iso and my Sata-HD isnt recognized trough the installation Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-569415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessant Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Hi everyone...I'm also still using asrock 775 dual-vsta and installed kalyway without bigger problems. I also applied the patches for sata, sound and networking as done in tiger. Hi fleisch, I have some questions for you regarding kalyway install on 775 dual-vsta. 1) Which bios are you using ? 2) Do you have PATA or SATA HDD ? 3) Do you have PATA or SATA DVD ? 4) Are you using EFI? (which version?) 5) Are you using MBR or GUID ? 6) How did you set bios in CPU Configuration (MAX CPU ID, ecc. ecc.) ? 7) Are you using Vanilla Kernel or SSE2 Kernel ? Sorry for all my questions but I'M GOING CRAZY with Leopard contrary to TIGER which I installed wiyhout problems... I also tried TheStevo v3 patched DVD with no success. Thanks, nessant Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/71662-thestevo-v30-patch/page/2/#findComment-569643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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