sadiekiller Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 M$ being a copy cat yet again??? I think so! lazy {censored}s also, compare it to Panther's System Prefs: so are they ripping off new Apple software, or old Apple software? either way they still need their own ideas!!!!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat_7 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Copying? you're not happy they stick to Apple GUI conventions, making it easier for you to recognize (as you did) the function of the window? Best, Cat_7 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-495218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticky_bit Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Office 2008 for Mac! Does the "FOR MAC" not hint at something here? I think it's brilliant. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-495229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.C. Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Seriously, they are just trying to follow conventions that have been set by Apple, rather than bring in their own Windows Conventions. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-495233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Yes, if you read over some of the posts from the Office for Mac developer blog, you'd notice that they want to keep the UI consistent with the rest of OS X, specifically Leopard. Apple has even been receiving seeds of of the new Office directly from Microsoft to help clear up any UI inconsistencies. After all, no one knows OS X's design guidelines better than Apple, right? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-496066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadiekiller Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 ah well that does make sense. i would still like them to come up with their own good design ideas for Office 2008. I still want it to be a Microsoft product that simply looks good in OSX. The argument you use implies that if I were to write a program for Vista that I wanted to look good and be user friendly, I would have to go along with their theme, regardless of weather or not it actually looked good. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-496379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aduffbrew Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 The argument you use implies that if I were to write a program for Vista that I wanted to look good and be user friendly, I would have to go along with their theme, regardless of weather or not it actually looked good. Well, kind of... If by "theme" you mean "Microsoft Windows interface conventions," yes. While I am sure there are consumers who can appreciate the creativity behind an unusual interface that doesn't conform to the operating system, I would dare guess most users would rather have a clean and consistant interface that doesn't require a high learning curve. The MacBU is just listening to consumer feedback. It seems silly to fault them for that. Especially when there are some other Office 2008 features that are a suspicious departure for Microsoft. Innovation? Imitation? Who cares? It's becoming evident both Apple and Microsoft are watching the competition very closely and it is the consumer who benefits. "Start your copiers," indeed! Dave Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-496511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDRacer48 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 M$ being a copy cat yet again??? I think so! lazy {censored}s also, compare it to Panther's System Prefs: so are they ripping off new Apple software, or old Apple software? either way they still need their own ideas!!!!! wow dude, you are against everything that makes sense. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-496515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadiekiller Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 Yeah, I suppose I was jumping a gun a bit on freaking out at Microsoft. This is probably just my view, but that was just a little too close for me to like it. Part of this also comes from my anger at Microsoft for actually dong a great job with the rest of office 2008, but not having a very nice prefs panel. Its a bed excuse I know, but I loved the new design for 2007 and expected just as much for 2008 on the mac. The MacBU is just listening to consumer feedback. It seems silly to fault them for that. Especially when there are some other Office 2008 features that are a suspicious departure for Microsoft. Innovation? Imitation? Who cares? It's becoming evident both Apple and Microsoft are watching the competition very closely and it is the consumer who benefits. "Start your copiers," indeed! I don't doubt that apple copies designs. I mean, why wouldn't you if its a good idea, but they tend to be less blatant about it and more often than not, they improve the feature, not use it line for line. If by "theme" you mean "Microsoft Windows interface conventions," yes. While I am sure there are consumers who can appreciate the creativity behind an unusual interface that doesn't conform to the operating system, I would dare guess most users would rather have a clean and consistant interface that doesn't require a high learning curve. I'm not saying it has to be completely different, but I'm not going to make it look the same. I mean, I think it would have been better to go along with the new tab style of options. Make the interface within your program consistent. I've realized by now I was being quite the "OMG MICROSOFT IS COPYING APPLE" fanboy there. I try not to let that side out too much, but Leopard resurfaced it recently. wow dude, you are against everything that makes sense. I feel like a politician... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-496599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danyel Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I feel that Panther's System Preferences is more similar to Tiger's System Preferences. Leopard's Prefs has toned down the pinstripe effect. What do you think? --danyel Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-496655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnm Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 if it was the windows version it would have been ripping off, but its the mac version so its just being consistent. Notice they did it wrong, good mac apps don't have ok/cancel in prefs because the changes are instant Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-497737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aduffbrew Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Notice they did it wrong, good mac apps don't have ok/cancel in prefs because the changes are instant Oh yeah!.... Doh! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-497970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuka Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 *slap* alot of apps use that system preferences look Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-500261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
telarmago Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 You are a complete and utter retard. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-504368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fobis Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 You are a complete and utter retard. And you are a complete and utter {censored}. Get over it. He just commented on something. Big deal. If it was a mistake, big whoop. He said he may have jumped the gun a little anyways. Read the friggin thread. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/69819-office-2008-copying-apple-yet-again/#findComment-506736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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