banini_jeque Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I have a question. When the dev DVD is popped into a PowerPC Mac, or PearPC, does it boot because it has a fat kernel, or because of Rosetta? If it's rosetta, I assume we can dream of running Windows apps on PPC in like Wine or something with greater speed than virtual pc. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/530-rosetta-on-ppc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesown Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 The reason that you are able to use the developer transition dvd on powerpc systems is because of the fat binaries. I am no expert on the subject, but from what I understand, a fat binary has bytecode for both x86 and powerpc. Thus meanning no emulation whatsoever is needed, as the PPC bytecode is still in the files. If your goal is to run windows apps in Mac OSX, a project exists called Darwine which presumably will provide what wine does for linux, for darwin Of course this project is presumably only going to be feasable on intel macs. Hope that helps, Mike Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/530-rosetta-on-ppc/#findComment-3245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJP Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Mac owners can only hope that Apple will make a rosetta for ppc processors to run future x86 binaries on them. When the time comes most of the applications will be compiled only for x86 so a backward rosetta would be very nice for everyone that has a ppc mac. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/530-rosetta-on-ppc/#findComment-3368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinno22 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 there's no need to. Almost all apps will be compiled in universal binary. the only time developers would only compile x86 binaries is when PPC hardware are not supported by their software or until Apple PPCs are completely phased out. Rosetta is only meant for "PPC only" compiled apps so developers could spend more time to re-code and compile their apps to universal binary during the transition. Mac owners can only hope that Apple will make a rosetta for ppc processors to run future x86 binaries on them. When the time comes most of the applications will be compiled only for x86 so a backward rosetta would be very nice for everyone that has a ppc mac. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/530-rosetta-on-ppc/#findComment-3470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
banini_jeque Posted August 19, 2005 Author Share Posted August 19, 2005 Haha, yeah, the reason I was asking was because when I try to boot from the dev DVD on my dual G4 it's incredibly slow, but I checked the kernel and it's fat so... I already knew about Darwine and all that. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/530-rosetta-on-ppc/#findComment-3513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorxd Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 As far as I know Rosetta can only emulate PPC on x86, not the opposite. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/530-rosetta-on-ppc/#findComment-6770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahsucks Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Well, they did get Darwine running with QEMU; but I imagine it wouldn't be as slick or as fast as the native Darwine we're running. That's really lucky for Apple and for us; a WINE copy is already in the making. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/530-rosetta-on-ppc/#findComment-13813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaS Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Heres something you guys could look at.I've been told this is what apple uses and calls rosseta http://www.transitive.com/products.htm#p2 If its not then excuse my post. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/530-rosetta-on-ppc/#findComment-14021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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