realtek alc880 sound does not work - help.

[slowdiver]

anyone got the realtek alc880 (or something similar) sound to work? its an intel high def. audio. two devices listed in windows.

[firedrake]

I've got a realtek HD 880 working on my Sager 9880, but it's very strange how. Basically, I set my boot drive to my windows xp drive, boot into windows XP, then RESTART, set my boot drive to OS X, and boot into OS X. Sound works after that, untill I shutdown my computer. The only reason I can think of that this would work is if the drivers for OS X don't have the proper initialization settings, so they can only use the hardware if it's been previously initialized.

[slowdiver]

good thing to hear. thank you for your information! i heared from others with alc880?

 

 

and what drivers do you (automatically/manually) load? with what values?

what kind of support is given by osx? 8 channel? digital out?

 

Thank You! Good to know theres another soul out there. i am trying on this for a week now.

[firedrake]

I believe it's actually loading the com.apple.driver.AppleAzaliaAudio driver, and it's loading it automatically. I did not have to change any settings to actually get it working.

[slowdiver]

thank you!

 

 

can you please give me the values of the azalia-driver?

 

and: is the appleac97audio.kext and the appleac97audiointelich.kext loaded, too?

 

 

i would like to get the nearest to your configuration to try out, maybe i could reproduce your problem (and your sound ).

 

 

For Sure: azaliaaudio has alc860/880-values in it. so we should get it to work stable somehow.

[firedrake]

I don't know what values you are looking for regarding the Azalia driver. And no, no AC97 files are being loaded, according to kextstat.

[slowdiver]

I've got a realtek HD 880 working on my Sager 9880, but it's very strange how.  Basically, I set my boot drive to my windows xp drive, boot into windows XP, then RESTART, set my boot drive to OS X, and boot into OS X.  Sound works after that, untill I shutdown my computer.  The only reason I can think of that this would work is if the drivers for OS X don't have the proper initialization settings, so they can only use the hardware if it's been previously initialized.

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icant reproduce it yet, how do you set your boot drive? via bios?

[firedrake]

icant reproduce it yet, how do you set your boot drive? via bios?

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Yes. I set my boot drive via Bios. I'll give you more specifics if this isn't working for you. I use a Sager 9880 laptop with a phoenix bios. My Windows XP installation is on my internal ATA through my promise controller. My OS X installation is running off of an external hard drive. Let's see... I don't know how much more is actually applicable. Ask me for other info you'd like to know.

[slowdiver]

Yes.  I set my boot drive via Bios.  I'll give you more specifics if this isn't working for you.  I use a Sager 9880 laptop with a phoenix bios.  My Windows XP installation is on my internal ATA through my promise controller.  My OS X installation is running off of an external hard drive.  Let's see... I don't know how much more is actually applicable.  Ask me for other info you'd like to know.

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{censored}, i have got one SATA: one partition osx, one xp. i have to switch between ide and raid to get to osx or to windows (another big problem i cant understand)

asked, cause i thought maybe entering the bios could destroy the effect you mentioned - sound after reboot.

 

question: do you have appleac97audio when you type in kextstat in terminal?

 

another question: if you take a look in (here via the ui:) /system/libraries/appleazaliaaudio.kext/(show package content)/content/plugins/appleazaliacontroller.kext/(pack contents)/Contents/info.plist (double click)

 

my list looks this way (altered, i played a bit with the values windows gave me, even the subsystem things):

IOKitPersonalities</key>

<dict>

<key>Intel ICH6 Azalia Audio</key>

<dict>

<key>CFBundleIdentifier</key>

<string>com.apple.driver.AppleAzaliaController</string>

<key>IOClass</key>

<string>AppleAzaliaController</string>

<key>IOPCIPrimaryMatch</key>

<string>0x26688086 0xc7801297</string> <--------

<key>IOProviderClass</key>

<string>IOPCIDevice</string>

 

what value do you have on the pointed thing?

 

and the same for /system/libraries/appleazaliaaudio.kext/(show package content)/content/info.plist:

 

Root/IokitPers../Realtek:

 

<key>Realtek ALC880/ALC860 Codec Driver</key>

<dict>

<key>CFBundleIdentifier</key>

<string>com.apple.driver.AppleAzaliaAudio</string>

<key>IOClass</key>

<string>AppleAzaliaAudioCodecALC880</string>

<key>IOHDAudioCodecVendorID</key>

<string>0x26688086 0x088010EC</string> <---------------------

<key>IOProbeScore</key>

<integer>10000</integer>

<key>IOProviderClass</key>

<string>IOHDAudioCodecDevice</string>

</dict>

 

The same: what says the string here?

 

Thank you in advance. i would like to type in the exact values you have in my machine to try your config.

[johnxstone]

Hey firedrake, if you could archive your AppleAC97Audio.kext and your AppleAzaliaAudio.kext and email them to me at john.c.stone@gmail.com, I would be happy to host them on filefront for everyone with our issue to try.

 

johnx: did you make any progress? you got an alc880, too?

[johnxstone]

Not yet .

[slowdiver]

what did you try?

[johnxstone]

what did you try?

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I tired putting my ven/dev everywhere.

[slowdiver]

more than 230 reads and noone else with an realtek alc 860/880 sound-chip? this cant be possible.

 

look at all this realtek issues here in hardware.

 

most of the used mainboards have it on them. it was said at start, that even the devel-kit has one on it?!?

[johnxstone]

more than 230 reads and noone else with an realtek alc 860/880 sound-chip? this cant be possible.

 

look at all this realtek issues here in hardware.

 

most of the used mainboards have it on them. it was said at start, that even the devel-kit has one on it?!?

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I know exactly how you feel... We should start a users group... lol

[slowdiver]

I know exactly how you feel... We should start a users group... lol

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sure. lets make a user group. another user appeared with an alc 880... see his shuttlexpc post...

 

but how did some alc 860 users get it to work?

 

maybe all is needed is in appeazaliaaudio.kext, no ac97 needed. here the both plugins were loaded automatically after a full dvd install. but no sound. manually loading the founding kext didnt do anything. one thing: look at its entries. the dev/vendor thing seem to be sort of different. besides the ven/dev thing seems to be upside down, it seems to give the codecs name, but not giving hardware adress? i am not the hardware/programmer super guy, so someone could take a look how this 3 drivers (azalia and the both plugins) play together. on windows side, i had to install a windows update cause of the 'HD Audio bus' (What is UAA?).

 

Help someone, please?

[Pixie]

My laptop use alc860/880.

After I add device id and vendor id to "appleazaliaaudio.kext/content/info.plist", the osx seems can load driver property. It both has volume icon and HD audio output in the sound section after I restart it.

But the problem is, I cant hear anything from the spearker!

And the icon and output sometimes will disappear after restart the pc.

[slowdiver]

My laptop use alc860/880.

After I add device id and vendor id to "appleazaliaaudio.kext/content/info.plist", the osx seems can load driver property.

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that sounds good. you seem to have gotten the farthest yet.

 

a few questions to get us all to that point:

1) exactly what did you alter in the azaliaaudio plist? did you alter something in the plugin-directory?

 

the most interesting question (cause we should all have the same vendor/device..)

2) what is your vendor/device? what was there before and what did you put in after?

 

3) did you have to load the appleazalia-kext manually? what else audio-devices gives you kextstat? are the plugin-drivers loaded?

 

i am sure, if you write a how-to or something else, everybody would be *very happy* here...

 

Thank you!

[Pixie]

1. I did add my ven/dev id to plugins directory "AppleAzaliaController.kext"

2. My vendor id is 10ec and device id is 0880. Since AppleAzaliaAudio.kext has my ven/dev id in the plist, I didn't change anything there.

3.I loaded the AppleAzaliaAudio.kext manually after add id to plist, then do remove extension.kextcache, recache kextcache, restart pc. In kextstat, they loaded both AppleAzaliaAudio.kext and AppleAzaliaController.kext, no any ac97 related kexts loaded.

[slowdiver]

1. I did add my ven/dev id to plugins directory "AppleAzaliaController.kext"

2. My vendor id is 10ec and device id is 0880. Since AppleAzaliaAudio.kext has my ven/dev id in the plist, I didn't change anything there.

3.I loaded the AppleAzaliaAudio.kext manually after add id to plist, then do remove extension.kextcache, recache kextcache, restart pc. In kextstat, they loaded both AppleAzaliaAudio.kext and AppleAzaliaController.kext, no any ac97 related kexts loaded.

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thank you for your help. but no progress here. i patched appleazaliacontroller with 088010ec, but nothing happend.

 

i cant understand: in your first post you said, that you altered the audio.kext, now it was controller.kext? i had something like 26688086 in it, and this is exactly the value of a the multimedia-controller i see at bootup shortly before the system boots.

 

i have got 2 devices in windows, not only one. one with the 088010ec, one with the 26688086. seems to be exactly what is there without altering it. with alteration, without alteration: no progress.

 

what the hell? i am working on this for days now. simply a soundchip. and a natively supported, too. what is my mistake? i have got 4 devices that use the chips irq, maybe thats the problem? but i cant alter it neither by windows or bios as far as i can see.

 

how do you got this chip to work????

[Pixie]

thank you for your help. but no progress here. i patched appleazaliacontroller with 088010ec, but nothing happend.

 

i cant understand: in your first post you said, that you altered the audio.kext, now it was controller.kext? i had something like 26688086 in it, and this is exactly the value of a the multimedia-controller i see at bootup shortly before the system boots.

 

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Sorry, my first post was wrong. As I second post said, audio.kext has my dev/ven id, that's why I didnt change it.

This chip seems work, but no sound at all. I dont see any difference between working or not.

[slowdiver]

what was it at start, before altering the kext?

did you have the sound icon then? and what was diffent after you altered the value?

when you kextloaded the altered kext, did the sound icon come directly? or did you have to reboot to see it, even the kext was loaded before?

 

in windows, i have two devices. with the exact values that are there when the whole kext with its 2 plugins is not altered. so maybe we should not change values (cause they are right in principle) but do need another kext to load?

 

someone who has his alc860/880 runnig posted his kextstat. maybe there is some other device. what are your differences compared to this post - even the hex-code on the azalia-things?

 

would you please post your kextstat, too?

 

and: anyone knows how to alter the values seen on kextstat?

 

what irq does your alc run with? what other devices use this irq?

[slowdiver]

oh come on. someone got his alc860/880 to work somehow. i believe.

 

i cant believe i have to by a crappy 16bit usb-dongle with analogue output for osx if i have an *supported* alc880 here.

 

it *must* be possible to get this running.

 

lets please connect our energy. i'll write an how-to afterwards.

[sanity]

Yeah, would be nice to have sound working.

 

But for now I'm going to go pick up a USB dongle to have something.

 

And for my uses, that's all I need, but I'd still prefer to have it internal.

 

or I guess I could go with a supported PCI card, but with only 1 slot, I'd have to give up my network...... just can't win

[sanity]

But for now I'm going to go pick up a USB dongle to have something.

 

Well, I just picked up a USB Dongle from Radio Shack (or The Source or whatever they're calling it now) it works, just plugged it in, it's recognized as a C-Media USB device. So, at least I have sound until something gets worked out to support the ALC880.

 

it sounds not bad as well