chris3g Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 After spending the last few hours reading various posts and how-to's, i've put together the following list of hardware to build an osx86 machine. https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishli...istTitle=New+PC It is my understanding that with this hardware, i should be able to get just about everything working correctly, but i just want to make sure that i'm not making any big mistakes before i put the order through. So please take a look and i'd appreciate whatever feedback you can give. Thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu.Walker Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Looks very compatible and should be blazingly fast if you match FSB:RAM 1:1. Should reach 3.6GHz with better cooling, or just run the RAM at tighter settings if you don't want to push your processor and make use of the capabilities of your DDR2-800 RAM. Boot up OSX86 and post your success, problems, and experiences in the GA-965P-DS3 thread! Most likely you won't run into any problems, but for good measure, I wish you luck and a quick and easy installation! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-340174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris3g Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 thanks for the feedback and good luck wishes let me ask you this - is it a reasonable expectation to be able to use a system like this (once everything is set up and installed properly), in OSX, as a primary work computer, or do the majority of you guys have it set up as more of a "project" type thing? I'm in the (probably not uncommon) situation of needing a new OSX machine (i use windows as well but mostly osx) but not wanting to spend $3k on the mac pro while the iMac would be not be a good choice for me either. If apple had something in between i'd probably buy that , but they don't, so here i am. But i also don't want to be constantly dealing with problems and instability...i'm willing to put the time and effort in initially to get everything set up but after that i just want it to work, you know? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-340298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emig647 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Chris, I hear this more and more every day, especially here and AI. Apple not having a mid-line computer is killing a lot of potential hardware sales. After today's fiasco with the Mac Pro, I decided it's time I take matters into my own hands and build my own machine. I am going to set out to make this my primary computer... and no windows on it either. I wish you luck and am glad you were here to help all of us. Hopefully it all works for me. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-340305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris3g Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 yup same here - i was waiting for the mac pro updates to make a decision and was of course disappointed with what went down today. did you decide what board you are going with yet? That seems to be the biggest decision to make in terms of compatibility. Good luck to you too. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-340306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emig647 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Actually I'm debating between the Asus P5W DH Deluxe and the Asus P5B-E. I know that the P5W DH Deluxe works! But it's more than I want to spend. ($200). I see that hte P5B-E works with some tweaks... I'll probably go with the P5W DH since I KNOW it will work. For graphics i'm going with an eVGA 7900GS. This will be my main work computer so I figured I better go all out. I'm going to put an e6700 in it (have it laying around). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-340316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris3g Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 the p5w-dh is the other board i'm considering too. It seems as though there may be some advantages to each, i can't decide. If anyone has any thoughts on this, go ahead and post Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-340327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris3g Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 well i just ordered everything. Made a last minute switch to the P5W-DH, also got a better PS and changed to a sony DVDRW. CASE ANTEC|P180 SIL RT - Retail MB ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP GREEN - Retail Item #: N82E16813131025 Open Box: VGA SAPPHIRE 100186L X1950XT R - OEM Item #: N82E16814102067R PSU HIPER|HPU-4K580-MS 580W RT - Retail Item #: N82E16817128002 CPU INTEL|C2D E6600 2.4G 775 4M R - Retail Item #: N82E16819115003 MEM 1Gx2|CORSAIR TWIN2X2048-6400 R - Retail Item #: N82E16820145590 52IN1 CARD RDR |SABRENT CRW-UINB RT - Retail Item #: N82E16820300608 HD 320G|ST 7K 16M SATA2 ST3320620AS - OEM Item #: N82E16822148140 DVD_BUR SONY|AW-Q170A-B2 BK % - OEM Item #: N82E16827131038 hope everythign works out :x: Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-340838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-o Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Im going to attempt the same experiment as you Chris, but was wondering if this nvidia 7950GT would work with almost the same configuration that you listed above? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-341232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbrush Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 I reckon any Lite-On drive is much better than any Sony. First, Sony drives don't usually last for more than 1 or 2 years, their laser diode will just die or develop some alignment problem, and cracks (for DVD-Region reset) for Lite-on drive is much easier to find than any Sony drives. Not to mention you would havea lot less problem finding compatible CD Player for any audio CD you burn with a Lite-on drive. But then its just my experience. And you've got a great setup there, hope you'll have a smooth and sucessful installation. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-341333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris3g Posted April 6, 2007 Author Share Posted April 6, 2007 i wanted to get a pioneer but they weren't in stock...i have a 111D in another machine though so i'll just pull that out if i get any trouble from the sony. i'm trying to get together all the packages that i'll need, so far i've got Mac OS X 10.4.8 [JaS AMD-Intel-SSE2-SSE3 with PPF1 & PPF2].iso jccool package for x1950xt ALC882 AppleHDA v0.4b.mpkg for audio P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1901.ROM bios EasyBCD 1.52.exe to set up dual boot Parallels Desktop 3036, hopefully i can get that going with my windows partition Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-341378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emig647 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Yah I think you'll be fine with that set up chris. Even though macbrush hasn't had good experiences with sony burners... for a while that is what apple was using in the G5's. In the Mac Pros they are using Pioneer 111d's. I think you'll be fine even if it lasts 1-2 years... hell it was what... $35?? :-P Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-341379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emig647 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 OK!!! Bought my hardware! Case: COOLER MASTER Centurion 532 RC-532-SKN1 Black Aluminum bezel, SECC chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Power Supply: FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX500-A, 2.0 version, 2 SATA, PCI Express, 500W - Retail Ram: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3400833AS 400GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM DVD Burner: LG 18X DVD±R Super-Multi DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write Black IDE Model GSA-H42N-BK - OEM CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER RR-PCH-S9U1-GP 92mm CPU Cooler Already have these: Graphics Card: eVGA 7900gs KO HDCP 256mb CPU: intel Core2Duo e6700 Wish me luck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-341535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris3g Posted April 8, 2007 Author Share Posted April 8, 2007 i decided to order a 2nd hard drive as well, so i will put osx on one drive and windows (probably vista) on the 2nd drive. If i understand correctly, i can then simply use the p5w's f8 boot menu on startup to pick the boot disk, and not have to worry about dual-booting through the vista or darwin boot loaders? it also looks like vista will be able to read/write to the HFS+ partition using Macdrive, and osx can read/write the NTFS partition using ntfs-3g. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-342401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
z3rr0 Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Here's the PC I built a few weeks ago: ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131025 DVD_BURN SAMSUNG|SH-S182D RAM BK http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827151133 SAPPHIRE 100185L Radeon X1950XT 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102082 Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115003 Patriot eXtreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820220144 LIAN LI PC-61 USB Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811112025 PowerTek 750W F5-Series ATX12V 750W Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817713002 HITACHI Deskstar T7K500 HDT725040VLA360 (0A33439) 400GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822145134 You can indeed use F8 to choose the OS to avoid the Darwin bootloader. I have a triple boot system, with 3 separate drives: Mac OS X (10.4.9), Vista, and Ubuntu 6.10. The wireless card on the mobo works with OS X using the drivers at Realtek. It isn't seen as a true AirPort card but as an ethernet port and so requires interaction at every boot. Hey, it works. The Samsung DVD burner works really well too. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-342520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris3g Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 all my hardware is in, system is built, and everything works. Starting OS X install now! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-344280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emig647 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Let us know how it goes! My hardware will be here thursday. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-344285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris3g Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 posting this from osx86. installation went fast and smooth. installing updates/drivers/etc now Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-344290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
z3rr0 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 posting this from osx86. installation went fast and smooth. installing updates/drivers/etc now Way to go chris3g! Do keep us up to date. I LOVE my machine. I put Windows Vista on it, and downloaded S.T.A.L.K.E.R... plays as smooth as butter at 1024 X 768. Second Life is great in OS X, but play really really well in Ubuntu 6.10 with ATI's drivers. Bottom line is that since I decided to install a gigabit ethernet network, that machine has been flawless. The wireless drivers work, but they're a PITA since there they don't retain state through reboots. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-344300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris3g Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 updated to 10.4.9 updated latest kernel from irc installed video drivers for 1950xt, QE good intalled sound stuff, basic sound good (haven't tested all the inputs/outputs yet) no problems so far Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-344308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emig647 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Chris!!! I'm proud of you. Way to go!!! Can you write up a small step by step for us n00bs? When you installed what immediate actions followed? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-344333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris3g Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 yeah i can do that, it's going to be pretty basic though. I really didn't have to do much, everything just worked. Right now i'm installing vista on my 2nd drive and getting the dual-boot set up. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-344348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emig647 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 After you installed, did it tell you to restart? If so did it just take you straight to the setup for os x? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-344368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris3g Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 ok here are the steps i took boot system for the first time, entered BIOS set SATA to AHCI mode disabled jmicron controller (i'm not using it for anything) set RAM to ddr-800 (P5W-DH incorrectly identified as DDR-667, probably will depend on your ram) run ASUS bios update utlility update to 1901 bios (i just copied the bios ROM to a USB flash drive) Boot from JAS 10.4.8 SSE2+SSE3.ppf1+ppf2 DVD run disk utility, format installation drive HFS+(journaled) Do custom installation - installed the Intel package for my C2D, did NOT install other additional drivers for USB, sound, video. completed installation, system booted to desktop. intalled JAS 10.4.9 combo update package, reboot. (the zip i had included a couple of other files as well - 10.4.4 loginwindow and something else, i did not install these packages). Once restarted, your system will probably incorrectly report your CPU/FSB speed. this is corrected in the next step. installed new mach_kernel from irc #1049 (just copy to / using terminal, make backup of existing kernel first just in case), reboot, system now identifies CPU/FSB correctly. installed jcool package for ATI X1950XT, reboot, Full Res, QE, etc... now supported. installed ALC882 Apple HDA v0.4b package, reboot, audio now works. that's it for OSX! You can also install the realtek wireless driver to get the wifi working, but i haven't messed with this yet since i don't plan to use it. then i shut down, and phyiscally removed the SATA cable from the board for drive1, leaving only my 2nd drive connected. (this may be unnecessary, but i didnt want to chance the vista installation messing with the MBR on that drive) boot from vista DVD. format 2nd drive using NTFS, install vista. shut down, reconnect SATA cable for drive1. power on, select boot OS by hitting f8 immediately on startup. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-344372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emig647 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Wow thanks!!!! That is awesome... now don't disappear now that you have your hardware going, make sure you stick around :censored2: So you didn't need to use EasyBCD? You're just using the default f8 option? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/47496-hardware-list-for-new-osx86-pc/#findComment-344388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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