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Well, last night my friend (who knows computers but isn't too comfortable with these things) asked me if I could help him do a clean install of Windows XP on his computer. I agreed, so we started by copying all his old data on his new 250GB hard drive. All went well and the data was copied within the hour, including all emails and bookmarks.

 

Then I started the Windows XP setup. First time around, just before showing me the license agreement which you can agree by pressing F8, it rebooted the system, so I just restarted the setup. Second time worked fine, except it only saw 128GB of the new hard drive. Well, I thought it might not have all required drivers, so it should work after installing them. I went ahead with the setup and all worked fine.

 

After installing the drivers for the nforce2 mainboard, xp saw the hard drive but there were no partitions on it. Turned out that the setup ERASED the partition table just before that reboot in the setup program!

 

So, I ended up spending 2 extra hours trying to recover the data with Acive@ Undelete (or something like that). So, when x86 macs are coming out, I am SO getting one to be finally DONE with Windows (well, maybe on a Virtual PC or something)...

 

What else can you call Windows than a piece of {censored} software? I am very disappointed...

 

 

Just my experience...

Alex Roman.

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well, one tragedy doesn't make windows that bad rite?

then again there's a whole lot of other tragedies that i probably don't hear except for endless BSOD that my friend is having, either due to 24hours online and all the crapware comin in or hardware problem. then again, i'm a window user and will probably shift to mac. i'm beginning to love mac since osx86 emerged.

Mac runs circles around XP and it's not crippled by all the virus, trojans, adware and spyware. Mac runs better and faster on my laptop then XP ever did.

 

I must agree with that...

 

And, no, it didn't take me this long to realize that about windows, I've been a regular linux user for the past 3-4 years....

Mac runs circles around XP and it's not crippled by all the virus, trojans, adware and spyware. Mac runs better and faster on my laptop then XP ever did.

I think shortly when Apple OSX86 captures about 5 to 10% of the market, you will see plenty of viruses, trojans and adware made for OSX86. It is all a matter of supply and demand. If one can hack OSX86 one can certainly write plenty of malware for it :huh:

Mac runs circles around XP and it's not crippled by all the virus, trojans, adware and spyware. Mac runs better and faster on my laptop then XP ever did.

 

I have to agree to a point. I also agree with Thrunner that when OSX gains a sizeable foothold on the market we'll see more malware targetting Macs. However the complexity of the layered OS and attention to detail will deter the script-kiddies for a while.

 

What I don't agree with is the title of the topic "Windows is a piece of {censored}". It's not. A piece of {censored} would be of extremely limited value (fertilizer, maybe?). :D Windows has value for millions of people. Windows, for all its faults, has introduced countless people to computers, has made it relatively easy for the uneducated to do things they never thought possible, and it supports many major institutions, systems and services. You'll find Windows behind the departures display in your local airport, running the ATM you use for your cash, in the bank's teller screen. OS/2 and *nix are there too, but Windows has a sizeable presence.

 

Windows is, when properly configured and maintained, a reasonably reliable and robust system. It's when you start building systems with odd hardware and downloading and running programs from who-knows-where - and then - continue by not maintaining it (and I'd venture that most home users don't maintain Windows to the level that a corporate user would) that you're asking for trouble. IBM for example gives a Windows-based laptop to each of its 300,000 employees and comprehensively maintains it (remotely) - you don't hear them whining about viruses, trojans and compatibility problems. Those Windows laptops are reliable and, with various hardware and software features, remarkably secure.

 

Maybe the title 'piece of {censored}' is valid when discussing vulnerability, or ease of maintenance, or wide compatibility with whatever hardware and software you throw at it. I'd say that you could apply that to most computer systems, OSX included, if you start to do odd things with them.

 

C'mon, guys, we all love OSX or we wouldn't be here. But don't lets waste forum time and storage by knocking the competition. You're preaching to the choir here! ;)

 

-s-

 

Edit - those numbers for IBM looked improbably large so I double-checked. According to http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4515101.stm (May 2005) IBM had 329,000 employees in Dec. 04. Not everyone gets a laptop - production line workers don't for example, but most employees have one.

 

Edit - OK my signature knocks Microsoft ... I put my hands up - I'm guilty too!

Mac runs circles around XP and it's not crippled by all the virus, trojans, adware and spyware. Mac runs better and faster on my laptop then XP ever did.

 

well give me one example apllications that runs faster on osx than windows

 

don't get me wrong i like osx..

 

for its stability, its user interface and looks

 

but

 

fact is.. xp is faster... sorry :)

i think it's all cosmetics between mac and win. when i first tried mac, i was then tempted to try out other apple products: ipods, ibooks, etc. i even get lesser sleeping hours now juz working around the tiger. but temptation is mother of all evil (might be another cause).

 

so i resist those temptations and when it all sank, it came down to this. i love mac..... for it's cosmetics. it's probably cool to have ipod or ibook around when you travel. people look at you differently when you carry an apple notebook.

 

i think mac is great with people who have settled down in terms of using a computer. probably just use mac for work and some mp3s or videos. but not for testing emulators, new programs, or anything that you want to install and get rid of right away.

 

but functions wise, i think it still can't beat the {censored} out of windows. sure we've all heard people talked about how unreliable a windows can be. but i've been using windows ever since i first used a computer. to work, play, get some entertainment, online, or just turned it on doing nothing. it's all there. no shortage. never had any serious problems with windows (so far). i have a ritual for using windows. to really be fun and reliable using windows, do a complete install probably once a year. or if you're a heavy hardcore user, twice a year or more. it's not that difficult to install a windows. few clicks and waits and you're there.

 

conclusion: windows is a piece of {censored}? well think again my friend. i love mac but windows is also great. better still, why not love em both. each has its own ups and downs.

Ok, this is turning into another 'my dog is better than yours' discussion. Really, you can't say that one OS is faster than another because it depends so much on your hardware, what software you've got installed and what you're doing. My G5 certainly started off faster than my XP desktop for running Photoshop but after rebuilding the XP machine and loading a pile of stuff on the G5 I'd say the positions are reversed. So much is perception too. The G5 boots to a useable state faster but can take ages opening some files right after bootup.

 

Anyway, now we've all had our say I'm closing the topic. Despite the first poster's apology, some folks have PM'd me to say they find the S word (and the subsequent equivalents) inappropriate. Hopefully we can say what we mean without resorting to questionable language.

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