aberracus Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Hi Asus P5W owners, i need your help here please i have setted on bios the sata drives to work as ACHI, my system is connected to the INTEL ICh7 ports, but the hard disk crawl, they are SATA II... this is what system profiler says Generic AHCI (null): Vendor: Generic AHCI Speed: 3.0 Gigabit Description: AHCI Version 1.10 Supported ST3250620AS: Capacity: 232.88 GB Model: ST3250620AS Revision: 3.AAD Serial Number: 3QE08534 Native Command Queuing: Yes Queue Depth: 32 Removable Media: No Detachable Drive: No BSD Name: disk0 OS9 Drivers: No S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified Volumes: Untitled: Capacity: 66.86 GB Available: 64.4 GB Writable: No File System: NTFS BSD Name: disk0s1 Mount Point: /Volumes/Untitled MacHD: Capacity: 166.02 GB Available: 26.82 GB Writable: Yes File System: Journaled HFS+ BSD Name: disk0s2 Mount Point: / and this is my hdisks xbench results Disk Test 47.03 Sequential 90.40 Uncached Write 64.74 39.75 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 86.92 49.18 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 148.28 43.39 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 94.76 47.63 MB/sec [256K blocks] Random 31.79 Uncached Write 10.79 1.14 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 73.37 23.49 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 87.50 0.62 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 122.88 22.80 MB/sec [256K blocks]any ideas? im using 10.4.8 with 8.8.1 latest DaemonES kernel it reads generic ACHI.. is that ok? how are doing your systems? THANKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiscus Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I have the same mobo and was concerned about sata performance. On xbench i was getting around 45 - 50 for the disk test as well. I tried all the ports and a couple of different drives and the results were similar. I then tried a WD drive, all the others I had tried were Seagates and my disk performance shot right up. I've seen some posts regarding Seagate drives and bad performance under OSX/Xbench (I'm not sure if it's an Xbench bug or a big in the Seagate firmwares) but worth a shot. If you have another brand drive try it and bench it and see what you get. Worth a shot. Otherwise there aren't any updates or anything else that I know of that you can try to speed up the performance with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberracus Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 can ou post what system profiler say about your sata? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiscus Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Generic AHCI (null): Vendor: Generic AHCI Speed: 3.0 Gigabit Description: AHCI Version 1.10 Supported WDC WD740GD-00FLA0: Capacity: 69.25 GB Model: WDC WD740GD-00FLA0 Revision: 21.08U21 Serial Number: WD-WMAKE1017788 Native Command Queuing: No Removable Media: No Detachable Drive: No BSD Name: disk0 OS9 Drivers: No S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported Volumes: Macintosh HD: Capacity: 69.25 GB Available: 28.49 GB Writable: Yes File System: Journaled HFS+ BSD Name: disk0s1 Mount Point: / This is fo my main drive (which yes it is a raptor so it's going to be faster - but even on another WD it was faster than my Seagates) My Seagates just hold my backups & media content: Generic AHCI (null): Vendor: Generic AHCI Speed: 3.0 Gigabit Description: AHCI Version 1.10 Supported ST3500630AS: Capacity: 465.76 GB Model: ST3500630AS Revision: 3.AAC Serial Number: 3QG01PNL Native Command Queuing: Yes Queue Depth: 32 Removable Media: No Detachable Drive: No BSD Name: disk1 OS9 Drivers: No S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported Volumes: Movies: Capacity: 465.76 GB Available: 147.98 GB Writable: Yes File System: Journaled HFS+ BSD Name: disk1s1 Mount Point: /Volumes/Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdg Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I too have Seagates 7200.10 model drivers (320, 500 and 750) and they are reallu slow...I don't know what all the reviewers on sites like Newegg are talking about fast. However, these are very quiet (all but 750, which is terribly loud...louder than my DVR, which is loud). Yes, the WD's are immediately apparent faster...forget Xbench, which does show they are faster...in real life you can also tell. Problem is that these things vibrate really badly, and I even have dampners. They shake my whole PC case and table where the PC sits on. They also emit a constant high pitch sound...VERY annoying if PC is right next to you. I bought special heat sink/silencer case for the WD's for SilentPC.com, and they work GREAT! They take up a 5.25 slot though. However, the better Maxtor drives are the best of both worlds. They are quiet and fast...in fact the fastest and quietest. I believe the Pac Pros, which have off the charts Xbench HD scores use the Maxtor drives I am talking about. I'm not home so I don't recall the model #'s, but they are the ones that cost a little more ($20-$30 for a comparable 500 Gb SATA 3.0 Gb/s drive). I too have the Generic readout in my information pane. I see a lot of people that have Intel ICH7 readout, and I wonder how they get that to show up?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberracus Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 Thats our problem we are using generic achi drivers, its a problem with our ioatafamily.kext, i will remake my second hard disk partition so i can put there a test osx and test with it, i have testeded those seagate inwinxp and they are fast, Wd is also good but noisy, and maxtor is the RMA king i will not go with them at gunpoint. Anyway i will post any notices about the kext.... Any other Asus owner have a clue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean.alcocer Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I am in the same problem, but the most wear is that my pata 7200, seagate 1200 is more quickly than my sansung 200gb ahci. Seagate is at 50MB/s, Samsung is at 20. So the final cut is recapuring video again and again. someone can do something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rparker Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 The Seagate 7200.10 drives have problems in all MAC's, including genuine ones. I just put in a WD drive and performance went back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberracus Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 i am runnin g a WD and a Samsung disk so no , the problem is not the Hard disk, check in ypour profiler in SATA do you have Generic ACHI? if so then u are working at half speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolio2004 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 This is what my profiler says: Serial-ATA-Bus: SAMSUNG HD400LJ: Kapazität: 372.61 GB Modell: SAMSUNG HD400LJ Version: ZZ100-14 Seriennummer: S0H2J1FL700373 Wechselmedien: Nein Absteckbares Laufwerk: Nein BSD-Name: disk2 Protokoll: ata Einheiten-Nummer: 0 Socket-Typ: Serial-ATA OS 9 Treiber: Nein S.M.A.R.T.-Status: Überprüft Volumes: XP-SP2: Kapazität: 98.19 GB Verfügbar: 6.07 GB Beschreibbar: Nein Dateisystem: NTFS BSD-Name: disk2s1 Mount-Point: /Volumes/XP-SP2 JaS10.4.7: Kapazität: 191.99 GB Verfügbar: 172.41 GB Beschreibbar: Ja Dateisystem: Journaled HFS+ BSD-Name: disk2s2 Mount-Point: / JaS10.4.8.SE: Kapazität: 82.42 GB Verfügbar: 5.35 GB Beschreibbar: Ja Dateisystem: Journaled HFS+ BSD-Name: disk2s5 Mount-Point: /Volumes/JaS10.4.8.SE WDC WD2500YD-01NVB1: Kapazität: 233.76 GB Modell: WDC WD2500YD-01NVB1 Version: 10.02E01 Seriennummer: WD-WCANK3420584 Wechselmedien: Nein Absteckbares Laufwerk: Nein BSD-Name: disk1 Protokoll: ata Einheiten-Nummer: 1 Socket-Typ: Serial-ATA OS 9 Treiber: Nein S.M.A.R.T.-Status: Überprüft Volumes: sata1-osx: Kapazität: 116.88 GB Beschreibbar: Ja Dateisystem: Journaled HFS+ BSD-Name: disk1s1 Mount-Point: sata2data-osx: Kapazität: 116.88 GB Verfügbar: 9.41 GB Beschreibbar: Ja Dateisystem: Journaled HFS+ BSD-Name: disk1s2 Mount-Point: /Volumes/sata2data-osx Serial-ATA-Bus: Config Disk: Kapazität: 320 KB Modell: Config Disk Version: RGL10364 Seriennummer: 0000000__________0_A Wechselmedien: Nein Absteckbares Laufwerk: Nein BSD-Name: disk4 Protokoll: ata Einheiten-Nummer: 0 Socket-Typ: Serial-ATA OS 9 Treiber: Nein S.M.A.R.T.-Status: Nicht unterstützt ST3400832AS: Kapazität: 372.61 GB Modell: ST3400832AS Version: 3.06 Seriennummer: 5NF1JWN8 Wechselmedien: Nein Absteckbares Laufwerk: Nein BSD-Name: disk5 Protokoll: ata Einheiten-Nummer: 1 Socket-Typ: Serial-ATA OS 9 Treiber: Nein S.M.A.R.T.-Status: Überprüft Volumes: Server10.4.8_1: Kapazität: 186.31 GB Verfügbar: 156.34 GB Beschreibbar: Ja Dateisystem: Journaled HFS+ BSD-Name: disk5s1 Mount-Point: /Volumes/Server10.4.8_1 Server10.4.8_2: Kapazität: 186.31 GB Verfügbar: 152.85 GB Beschreibbar: Ja Dateisystem: Journaled HFS+ BSD-Name: disk5s2 Mount-Point: /Volumes/Server10.4.8_2 These are the xbench results: Results 47.36 System Info Xbench Version 1.3 System Version 10.4.8 (8L2127) Physical RAM 4096 MB Model ADP2,1 Drive Type SAMSUNG HD400LJ Disk Test 47.36 Sequential 113.15 Uncached Write 135.90 83.44 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 122.09 69.08 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 81.49 23.85 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 132.78 66.73 MB/sec [256K blocks] Random 29.95 Uncached Write 9.70 1.03 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 97.22 31.12 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 80.35 0.57 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 129.54 24.04 MB/sec [256K blocks] Results 49.82 System Info Xbench Version 1.3 System Version 10.4.8 (8L2127) Physical RAM 4096 MB Model ADP2,1 Drive Type ST3400832AS Disk Test 49.82 Sequential 99.78 Uncached Write 69.46 42.65 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 118.61 67.11 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 103.05 30.16 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 132.32 66.50 MB/sec [256K blocks] Random 33.20 Uncached Write 11.11 1.18 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 73.26 23.45 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 99.59 0.71 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 147.22 27.32 MB/sec [256K blocks] Results 58.05 System Info Xbench Version 1.3 System Version 10.4.8 (8L2127) Physical RAM 4096 MB Model ADP2,1 Drive Type WDC WD2500YD-01NVB1 Disk Test 58.05 Sequential 70.88 Uncached Write 55.47 34.06 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 70.10 39.66 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 88.06 25.77 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 78.22 39.31 MB/sec [256K blocks] Random 49.16 Uncached Write 18.20 1.93 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 127.44 40.80 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 100.74 0.71 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 115.70 21.47 MB/sec [256K blocks] Western is the fastest!! Coolio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberracus Posted February 22, 2007 Author Share Posted February 22, 2007 (edited) Coolio can you update us your configuration wich version of OSX are u suing? your IDE settings in bios are ACHI ? do you have an alert when u start your computer? A Vaio? it uses the asus mobo? btw i have now a test partiotion BUT i cant get the ich7-r drivers to work im still with generic ACHI Edited February 22, 2007 by aberracus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolio2004 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 I use ata no ACHI. VAIO is my Sony Centrino Notebook. Coolio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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