PRSubway Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 (edited) So I installed Jas 10.4.8 8.8.1 kernel to a 20 Gb seagate i got from my school's abandoned server (Model: ST320413A 3.05) When i reboot my pc so I can choose OSX86 from the boot menu, my motherboard (MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum (PCB 1.0)) freezes after "displaying IDE connections", where it correctly displays all of my connected Hard drives (including the seagate). It just doesnt go past this. it says the "press del for setup" at the bottom like it always does on that screen, but before it goes to the setup it has to go through the RAID screen, which it never gets to because it freezes too soon. So basically I can't even access BIOS when I have this hard drive connected, thus rendering it totally useless (to my knowledge). I even took out the Seagate, put it in my external USB enclosure, and connected it to my mac running 10.3, but it wouldnt recognize the disc either. not even in disk utilities. I tried connecting the IDE cable to the seagate after windows booted, but obviously that doesnt work. I think my problem might be that I forgot to format the seagate as a primary partition (as instructed for osx86 installation). Also, theres a little text box on the actual hard drive that says "This product has been tested for compatibility in IBM Personal Computer system units. bla bla bla" So that may have something to do with it. Once again, this hard drive worked fine before I installed 10.4.8 on it (which installed fine by the way). BTW I tried flashing BIOS, didn't help. Any suggestions? Hardware once again: messed up HD: Seagate U Series 5 (Model: ST320413A 3.05) Mobo: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum (PCB 1.0) AMD 3700+ ATI x800gt Edited January 11, 2007 by PRSubway Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
powrslave Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 get a linux live cd and kill it as an apple darwin partition... then format it with your install dvd but dont touch the partition, with diskutil Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-273968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akutsito Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Cannot it be set as primary? i've got the same problem And how do i kill it? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-273970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRSubway Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 will it be a problem that when i have the broken hard drive plugged in i cant boot from cd? not to mention any thing else? im dling a live cd anyway, but im totally unfamiliar with linux. can you run me through what i'll need to do once I get it? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-274053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
linux4guru Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I notice you have the AMD processor. Do you have the correct install DVD for AMD? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-274129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRSubway Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 (edited) no i have the right dvd. my friend used it and it works for amd. Edited January 12, 2007 by PRSubway Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-274440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRSubway Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 i brought the hd to my friends house to see if his motherboard would run it. it did, but when we opened partition magic to try to format it, partition magic said it was "BAD", and every type of format failed. FAT and NTFS formatting both gave me errors. I think i just broke the hard drive somehow during osx86 installation. which sucks cause now im scared to try it on any other hard drives. we'll see... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-274603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinchampu Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 (edited) I have exactly the same problem, but using an DFI LANPARTY MB with an AMD dual core. Tried two different PATA IDE HARD DRIVES (one of them brand new from the shop), drive works perfectly before install, install OS X and then if the drive is plugged, BIOS hangs and computer cannot boot. I am totally amazed as to how the hell is OS X installation able to do "something" to the drive that render the bios unable to boot with it attached in the system. Is os x installer writing something to the disk firmware? I do not understand how is this happening. this should NOT be possible. Edited January 13, 2007 by chinchampu Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-275121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinchampu Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 To be clear, the problem is NOT that os x does not boot, the problem is that if the disk is plugged to the system, BIOS cannot boot, it does not reach the boot stage, hangs after detecting ide disks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-275126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinchampu Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Solution Found: Unplug the drive, go to your bios, go to the IDE autodetect part and tell it that you DONT have a drive in that ide port. Put os x dvd in dvd drive, boot from it, go to disk utility. In disk utility go to PARTITION, (not to erase) and then select all and create a partition, when finished in the lower part of the window in the Partition Scheme: must say "Master Boot Record" if it says GUID something then it will hang in bios. After that, you can reboot and reactivate the autodetect in bios for the drive if you want to see if it worked, but its not really needed, you can proceed with the installation wait until it finishes and when it does, reboot, enter bios, reactivate the autodetect for the drive and enjoy Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-275139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRSubway Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 i think i might be doing this a bit wrong, those directions are a bit confusing. but what i did was tell the bios to not detect my harddrive, and that worked. then i booted from osx disc, but when i view diagnostic mode, it gets stuck on the infamous "still waiting on root device". this didnt happen when I installed it on the broken hard drive the first time. Am i doing something wrong? any clearer directions? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-275173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinchampu Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Um that seems to be a different problem, you have to repartition the disk using other software if you can not get OS X DVD to boot to disk utility. Try using an USB2 enclosure and some windows software or try a linux live cd. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-275187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRSubway Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 but if i make the bios not detect my hard drive, how do i make it so that any software can see it? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-275200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinchampu Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Because modern windows (XP will do) and linux in general do not use bios to look for drives, they bypass it Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-275228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwinn555 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 (edited) Solution Found: Unplug the drive, go to your bios, go to the IDE autodetect part and tell it that you DONT have a drive in that ide port. Put os x dvd in dvd drive, boot from it, go to disk utility. In disk utility go to PARTITION, (not to erase) and then select all and create a partition, when finished in the lower part of the window in the Partition Scheme: must say "Master Boot Record" if it says GUID something then it will hang in bios. After that, you can reboot and reactivate the autodetect in bios for the drive if you want to see if it worked, but its not really needed, you can proceed with the installation wait until it finishes and when it does, reboot, enter bios, reactivate the autodetect for the drive and enjoy WOW a life saver ! Very timely topic for me. I was having the same issue after installing JaS 10.4.8 the new (and lots of odd new bugs on some machines) DVD. My clue that this was the same issue was seeing can't set "Master Boot Record" in log errors. I was able to do the partition in Disk utilities without making any changes in bios. Installed and booted fine after. A big thank you. Edited January 14, 2007 by Schwinn555 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-275589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRSubway Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 yeah i got it to work. i fixed the root device problem by plugging in the hard drive as a master on the same IDE cable as the DVD drive that the install disc was in. now i just have to work out the graphics kinks... thanks a lot for the solution. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38389-after-install-motherboard-wont-boot-osx86-hard-drive/#findComment-275981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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