cashgrow Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Hi! I got a P4 2.8 ghz, 1 gb RAM, 7600 gs Agp running stable on the latest semthex sse2 beta 9 kernel, with qe/qc. but i think my performance should be better. getting 50.6 in xbench. photoshop, aperture, iphoto is crawling, or at least limping along.. dragging the frame in photoshop is lagging and adjusting exposure etc. in aperture takes a while before the slider or the picture updates.. am i missing something? the info in about my mac is correct.. i have overclocked the cpu from 2.8 to 3.1, is this a problem? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 i have the same score/setup, opengl 60 and quartz 37.33 The problem also seems to be the agp card which (agp) isnt supported by osx, only as 33mhz pci card. agpgart should speed it up to 8 x busspeed but then you probably loose qe/ci, i did. some people say its the combination sse3 emulation / agp, becuase we never hear complaint from agp / sse3 users. would like to test a prescott sse3 p4 see or that is true. Buts thats gone be difficult...... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-261984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomnic Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 (edited) You'll not lose QE/CI if you set the aperture to 128Mb... try!!! Edited December 26, 2006 by tomnic Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-261989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashgrow Posted December 26, 2006 Author Share Posted December 26, 2006 okey, using agpart and set the aperture in bios to 128? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-262013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashgrow Posted December 26, 2006 Author Share Posted December 26, 2006 get a black screen again with agpart, hm.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-262036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 (edited) You'll not lose QE/CI if you set the aperture to 128Mb... try!!! 1. If I read the topics about it, almost everybody seems to loose ci/qe as far I could see. 2. Why you assume I didn´t tried already? Gues what the result were ...... ok I give a hint. See my answer before and yes I have a aputure size of 128 on my 128mb card. Would love to try-test other settings but Joblo didnt post a reaction or tips when i posted my results on his site, so I gues he didnt know either. Until then bye, bye, agpgart and welcome titan. Edited December 26, 2006 by wow Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-262106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 (edited) get a black screen again with agpart, hm.... I checked my bios again for the 128mb thing to be sure. I noticed my onboard video was not disabled (took 32mb) so i disabled it and "max cppuid" was disabled, i thought i read somewhere that it is better enabled. After that i installed agpgart22 again but after reboot i had choices between a black screen a reboot screen of dead. Edited December 26, 2006 by wow Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-262219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterav Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 The performance with sse2 processor wise is fine, even beter than XP, I can render Raw photos a lot faster in osx than in XP but the overal grapich performance of OPENGL is slower than in XP, google earth is slower, games are slower, but still usable... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-262357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashgrow Posted December 26, 2006 Author Share Posted December 26, 2006 ok, so i'm not the only one getting slow feedback from PS, Aperture, iphoto and so on...? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-262395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 (edited) But the main question is still, does it get better with a real sse3 cpu. or is the agp card the real bottleneck. I have problems with firefox the screenbuild up is so slow compared with FF on my pc. Edited December 26, 2006 by wow Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-262415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomnic Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 1. If I read the topics about it, almost everybody seems to loose ci/qe as far I could see. 2. Why you assume I didn´t tried already? Gues what the result were ...... ok I give a hint. See my answer before and yes I have a aputure size of 128 on my 128mb card. Would love to try-test other settings but Joblo didnt post a reaction or tips when i posted my results on his site, so I gues he didnt know either. Until then bye, bye, agpgart and welcome titan. Well, this is my experience: with a 6800GT AGP 256 Mb GDDR3 card I've got AGP working fine (using titan), but lost QE/CI till I changed my aperture size. Try it at 64 Mb or some other settings, or try using Natit if you used Titan, AGP and QE/CI is possible, it is for me. Benching with QE/CI but without AGP acceleration I've got really low scores, way far better results using only AGP acceleration and QE/CI disabled. So, if u can, try everything you can to get agpgart working!!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-262507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashgrow Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share Posted December 27, 2006 (edited) i´ll give it one more try, with the performance loss i will continue to use vista, and that i dont want too Edited December 27, 2006 by cashgrow Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-262757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashgrow Posted December 28, 2006 Author Share Posted December 28, 2006 ok, semi success, aperture: 256 loading screen of death (or whatever...) 128 display goes in offline mode 64 same as over 32 it works but no qe/ci 16 loading screen of death... 8 same as over 4 same... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-263208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legg1 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 im running Prescott 2.4Ghz SSE/3 Cpu, with 1gig ram agp x1650pro and aperture size at 256mb. no agpgart. 72points in xBench 10.4.8 Semthex beta9 8.8.1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-263368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomnic Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 (edited) ok, semi success, aperture: 256 loading screen of death (or whatever...) 128 display goes in offline mode 64 same as over 32 it works but no qe/ci 16 loading screen of death... 8 same as over 4 same... Using 128 megabyte aperture size try the Natit installation, which chipset do you own? I've got a Via K8T880 PRO Edited December 28, 2006 by tomnic Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-263417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 i believe agpgart only works with via chipset on mobo's maybe that the problem we have intel chipsets. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-263427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjonathan Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I'm having the same problem as cashgrow. P4 3.0 Northwood, 1 GB RAM, AGP GeForce 6800 (128 mb). System runs very well (Xbench score of about 55) but lags pretty bad with programs like Photoshop and Aperture. I followed Nylock's tutorial, so I'm using Titan. QE/CI work, but I haven't fooled with the AGP settings or with AGPgart. If SSE3 would improve things quite a bit, I'd consider selling my Northwood on eBay and replacing it with a Prescott. Any updates on this? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-267173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnassen Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I have a Mac Pro which I use for both Aperure and Photoshop and let me tell you: I won´t be fast until the next Adobe suite is ready. Photoshop depends on PowerPC-emulation (Rosetta) and takes a lot more resources than any PC would at the same potential. Aperture is crawling on my Mac Pro as well, even with 3 gb RAM. I wouldn´t expect any high numbers, at any configuration at this end of the year. Apple still has a far way to go before Aperture uses the true power of any computer. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-267181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashgrow Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 (edited) Tomnic: i got a Intel 865PE Chipset, Jonassen: okey so the performance may not be so bad after all, guys? but i sure want to get the x8 gpu performance agpgart will give me if its possible in some way.. Edited January 3, 2007 by cashgrow Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-267236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjonathan Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I assumed that the centrality of the MacBook in Apple's Aperture advertising implied that the program actually ran well on the system. Good to know it's not only my system and that things might improve. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-267449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Dont expect to much from agpgart it doesnt speed iy up by 8x :-) I believe the profit was was more like 60% Also a full 1048 seems to run better then a 1047 with 1048 kernel. Soemone here had a nice speed boost after that. Hopefully tomorow i can test it myself. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/36852-sse2-performance/#findComment-267454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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