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I had a Fujitsu laptop and I want to install MAC OSX on it. When I first boot my laptop from DVD, my laptop get stuck as soon as the gray apple icon appears. Neither the disk nor the DVD is running. Then I reboot it, and with "-v", some information of loading "***.kext" appears and then it turns black again. (I suggest that there must be a lot of hardware and loading information but it turns out to be empty :( )

Since I've got a widescreen I have tried to make a bridge on the VGA port, between 1-6 and 2-12, which does no effect.

 

I've got the Goatsecx version and my hardware information are as follows:

(It's Fujitsu P5020 laptop)

Intel PM 1.0(with SSE2 supported)

i855GM/GME Chipset

Southbridge:82801DB(ICH4-M)

 

Who can give me some advice? Really thanks a lot! :D

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yep, I've noticed that but they are facing a problem when using the system. Also, someone has posted files here http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=757 , he seems to get the chipsets work properly.

 

But I can't even install the system, what's worse, with "-v" at the beginning of installation, nothing comes out, no information, just black, so that I don't know what to do with my laptop...

 

is there any solution to this problem? Really thanks!

immilki
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I install the VMWare, but when booting from the CD, a box bounced up telling me that it has some 'PAE' errors.

 

*** VMware Workstation internal monitor error (bug 9297) ***

The guest operating system you are running is using the Physical Address Extension (PAE) processor option.  For more information about
running PAE-enabled guest operating systems, please consult http://www.vmware.com/info?id=28

 

I have turned to the http://www.vmware.com/info?id=28, and do what it says --- adding ' paevm="true" ' to the .vmx file, but it doesn't help anything :)

 

I have also search the internet and someone suggest that we can add " /PAE" in the boot.ini, which does no good either ;)

 

Is there any way to solve this problem?

immilki
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i've tried to set the VM to both Solaris 10 Experimental, and FreeBSD, but neither of them works...sigh...

anyway the "bug 9297" comes out a few seconds later than before, which gave me the impression that it works...

 

is there any possibility to solve it? or it's due to my hardware's incompatibility?

Rammjet
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lol - I remember reading WinNT

I was laughing at all of the different answers, but I was serious about WinNT:

 

VMware would continually reboot while trying to boot the install DVD on my Conroe/965P board when VMware guest OS was set to freeBSD. I solved this by changing the guest-OS type to "Windows NT". Other guest OS settings did _not_ work.

 

* This was happening for me too, on a Conroe/965. THis fixed it and now it works like a charm. Does anyone know whether this is the cpu or chipset causing this?

 

Follow-up:

Using notepad to edit vmx file I changed the guest OS and nvram lines to read:

guestOS = "winnt"

nvram = "Windows NT.nvram"

 

Also this line should already be in vmx file

paevm = "true"

 

Works! My 10.4.3 machine I ported boots again! Now to try to get 10.4.8 to install in VMware, and from there to native.

immilki
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he he, i've tried win NT, too, but the same PAE message...

i guess that my CPU doesn't support PAE so whatever i do to convince the VM that i have a PAE supported CPU is in vain

 

thus, the only way to install is to burn a DVD. then it comes to the first problem... i can neither enter the installation nor get the error information

i've noticed that there are a lot of versions of DVDs, so i wonder if someone has the experience of getting it work with 855 chip sets and PM processor...

 

btw, the Goatsecx version i used is said to be the best version ever, but it can't work on my computer... though it can run on my friend's laptop...

bgrau
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HI Rammjet,

On my system's vmwares, with 10.4.8, latest intel semthex kernels, if i choose 2 CPUs and Solaris10, the OS crashes, however it works with FreeBSD.

For versions prior to 10.4.8, I cannot choose 2 CPUs, it always crashes no matter what I tell vmware the OS is, including WinNT...

:thumbsup_anim:

immilki
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I just guess that MAC OSX requires a PAE supported CPU, but it seems that mine doesn't...

 

is it necessary to get a PAE supported CPU?

 

if it is, then which CPUs meet the requirement? my friend's laptop has a P-M 1.6G CPU which supports PAE, but mine(P-M 1.0G) doesn't. is it possible to change these two CPUs? (we all use 855GM chipsets)

 

thanx a lot! :wallbash:

 

update:

I confirmed that the PM CPU on another laptop, Compaq X1000, doesn't support PAE, but the installation runs well... :stretcher:

so i'm totally confused... my P5020 and X1000 are using almost the same hardware --- PM processor, 855GM chipsets, same RAM, but...

maybe the only difference can be the BIOS, one is Phoenix, another is HP...

 

then why is it that one is working well, but my doesn't work? :tomato:

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bgrau
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Good questions.

U can investigate if vmware emulates PAE for the Guest OS without the Host supporting it.

I never bothered, I do not even know if my Host supports PAE or not, just that it works for me.

The only things I had to look into were SSE3/HPET/XD for CPU at one stage...

Do the reseearch :) & good luck...

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