install latest MacOs version on AMD desktop PC

[Matteo Fantino]

good evening, I was reading online about hackintosh. and I saw that there are actually numerous guides that explain how to do MacOs bigsur vanilla hackintosh also on the AMD platform.

In particular, I found a video on YouTube from the beginning of the year 2022, where he installs MacOs via opencore on a desktop PC similar to mine with ryzen 9, motherboard gigabyte 570 like me.

Now my only problem remains the graphics card as he (in the video tutorial) has an AMD Radeon, while I have an Nvidia with Turing technology.

But if I can find an older graphics card compatible with MacOs do you think I should try to install MacOs bigsur? The guide is a bit long and complicated but it doesn't seem impossible to me.

[aben]

@Matteo Fantino Yes, AMD Ryzen CPUs are capable of running macOS Ventura as well, albeit with some additional patches and quirks exclusive to AMD. For the GPU, you may opt for any older GCN-1 (post TeraScale) based AMD cards, like the HD 7000 or 8000 series - these cards are all natively supported till macOS Monterey. You may consult this helpful list of supported AMD GPUs. 

 

Also, since you mentioned the use of Adobe apps…if I recall correctly, Adobe suite on macOS relies on Intel’s Memfast technology, which leads to instability and crashes on AMD CPUs due to lack of the instruction-set. Support for macOS on AMD CPUs can get quite finicky due to the lack of hardware level optimization - there will be limitations.

Edited November 30, 2022 by aben

[aben]

@deeveedee If you have nothing credible to contribute with respect to macOS on AMD platforms, then perhaps it's best you refrain from further polluting this particular thread with random commentaries about HyperVisor and "mastery" of hackintosh. Would deeply appreciate if you'd kindly take these discussions/opinions elsewhere. Thank you!

[Matteo Fantino]

8 hours ago, aben said:

@MatteoFantino Sì, le CPU AMD Ryzen sono in grado di eseguire anche macOS Ventura, anche se con alcune patch aggiuntive e stranezze esclusive di AMD. Per la GPU, puoi optare per qualsiasi vecchia scheda AMD basata su GCN-1 (post TeraScale), come la serie HD 7000 o 8000: queste schede sono tutte supportate nativamente fino a macOS Monterey. Puoi consultare questo utile elenco  di GPU AMD supportate. 

 

Inoltre, poiché hai menzionato l'uso delle app Adobe ... se non ricordo male, la suite Adobe su macOS si basa sulla tecnologia Memfast di Intel, che porta a instabilità e arresti anomali sulle CPU AMD a causa della mancanza del set di istruzioni. Il supporto per macOS su CPU AMD può diventare piuttosto complicato a causa della mancanza di ottimizzazione a livello hardware: ci saranno dei limiti.

ah I understand, so you're telling me that the Adobe suite on MacOs hackintosh with AMD CPU would give so many problems and performance that could be poor. thanks for the advice. 

[Matteo Fantino]

@Slice @aben For example, I found this GeForce 9 graphics card. But I don't know the exact model because it's not written there and I wouldn't know how to find it. Do you think it is compatible with MacOs hackintosh. And if it was compatible with which versions? Seems like a pretty old series to me. I post the photos so maybe you recognize it and you can give me some feedback.  Thanks to.

[aben]

37 minutes ago, Matteo Fantino said:

ah I understand, so you're telling me that the Adobe suite on MacOs hackintosh with AMD CPU would give so many problems and performance that could be poor. thanks for the advice. 

 
Unfortunately, yes. You can find more information regarding AMD CPU Limitations in macOS here: https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Install-Guide/macos-limits.html#cpu-support

[aben]

@Matteo Fantino I believe the correct model is GeForce 9600 GT, which is based on Tesla architecture. Last supported macOS will be High Sierra. 

[Slice]

It is 8800GT, yes, Tesla, yes High Sierra.

https://nazya.com/ebay/product/videokarta-nvidia-p393-geforce-8800gt-512-256ddr3-sdram-180103930002b00_274137236247.html

[Matteo Fantino]

ok so i can install at max High sierra. 

[deeveedee]

@Matteo Fantino Please take this with a grain of salt, since it appears that I have nothing to contribute and my hacks aren't "real hackintoshes."  I don't know if the technique will work with AMD CPU-based hacks, but there is an effort to restore NVidia GPU functionality on newer macOS versions.  The tool on which the effort is based is called the Open Core Legacy Patcher (OCLP).  It is designed to patch real Macs, but I and others have used OCLP to patch hacks (like my Dell Latitude E6410 here).  I won't pretend to know if you could be successful, but I also won't allow my own ignorance or lack of experience with AMD and OCLP to limit your potential.  It may not be easy, but if you're motivated by others who tell you it can't be done, OCLP might be something you want to try.  After you get High Sierra installed, try using OCLP to build a Big Sur installer and patch your rig for Big Sur.  It just might work.

 

EDIT: If OCLP proves to be too challenging, there is also a patcher by DosDude1 for restoring NVidia graphics functionality in Mojave and Catalina.  Before I patched my Dell Latitude E6410 for Big Sur, Monterey and Ventura, I patched it for Mojave and Catalina and it worked very well.  Many others have used the DosDude patcher for hacks and real Macs. Both OCLP and DosDude patcher will require you to venture into new and possibly unknown territory.  It all depends on whether you're up for the challenge and how discouraged you are by others who say it can't be done.

Edited November 30, 2022 by deeveedee

[Matteo Fantino]

@deeveedee I think the way you propose is an interesting one, of course I would say more of a challenge ... I'm not very good at hackintosh, but after installing High sierra I can try to follow the guide that you sent me, in order to be able to update my hack to later MacOs versions, but when you say "effort to restore Nvidia features" what exactly do you mean? that there will be the possibility to use for example my rtx a2000 gpu for hackintosh? thank you for your contribution.

[Slice]

Forget RTX2000

[deeveedee]

@Matteo Fantino OCLP will only restore NVidia functionality for GPUs that were once natively supported by macOS.  It's a good tool, but it's not a miracle worker

Edited November 30, 2022 by deeveedee

[Matteo Fantino]

7 minutes ago, deeveedee said:

@MatteoFantino OCLP ripristinerà solo la funzionalità NVidia per le GPU che una volta erano supportate nativamente da macOS. È un buon strumento, ma non fa miracoli

oh okay okay. I misunderstood. thanks, even the GPUs it supported before would be enough for me..👍🏻

[deeveedee]

Buona fortuna!  By the way, I used to live in Calabria.

[Matteo Fantino]

14 minutes ago, deeveedee said:

Buona fortuna! A proposito, vivevo in Calabria.

ah nice, I Rome .. now where do you live?

[fabiosun]

1 hour ago, Matteo Fantino said:

ah nice, I Rome .. now where do you live?

AMD and adobe suite work perfectly

If you like hackintosh you have to use also an AMD GPU in your system and you will be happy!

 

RTX card are not compatible with OSX

GTX card are compatible In a perfect way till HighSierra, but latest adobe suite could not work in it

forza Roma