FICU Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Hi, Some time ago I put together a new computer, its specification: Mobo: MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 CPU: Core i5-12600K CPU Cooler: SilentiumPC Fortis 5 ARGB 140mm RAM: Patriot 16GB (2x8GB) 4400MHz CL19 Viper Steel GPU: Palit GeForce RTX 3060 Ti ColorPOP LHR 8GB GDDR6 Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy RX (PCI-E) PSU: XFX XTR Black Edition 750W Modular Case: SilentiumPC Regnum RG6V EVO TG ARGB OS: Windows 11 Pro x64 I plan to buy an iPhone 13 Pro soon and by the way I would like to see the operation of the Apple ecosystem. Because of this, I would like to buy a Radeon GPU for the above set to be able to run Hackintosh on the Z690 (it is a pity that there are no iGPU drivers at the moment, then there would be no problem). I would use the Nvidia GPU under Windows (Radeon would be disabled in the device manager) and the Radeon GPU under macOS (nvidia would be disabled in OpenCore). For this reason, I would like to ask you a few questions. Are we able to use the potential of the ecosystem on Hackintosh to have an additional Apple device? Does it make sense to go about it? What would I possibly have to buy for it to work? Do I remember correctly that for this to work there must be a specific type of dongle? Due to the fact that my current GPU covers the PCI-E x1 slot (which forced me to plug the sound card into the PCI-E x16), I have a limited space between the third PCI-E x16 slot and the PSU cover, only one GPU will fit there. slot. Will I find a GPU that will work under Hackintosh in reasonable money? macOS will be used for tasks such as WWW / YT / Netflix / Music, so for this type of tasks it does not need a strong GPU, for heavy tasks it will be Windows 11 on board with RTX. Personally, I was wondering about the Sapphire PULSE RADEON RX 550, 2GB GDDR5 (128 Bit) HDMI, DVI-D, DP, BOX (11268-03-20G), but I read about the presence of two different cores including the GPU (Baffin - supported and Lexa - does not support it) and I am not sure how to check it exactly (the seller has the card removed and I am not able to check by the hardware ID). Due to different BIOS settings for Windows and for macOS, how to solve the problem of other settings? The only thing that comes to mind is to save two BIOS settings (1. Windows 2. macOS) and depending on what we want to run, I would have to read the appropriate BIOS settings. Thank you in advance for your help, it's good that there is still a place where someone will selflessly help someone else in the subject of Hackintosh, which some websites will already have without the appropriate rank will melt your post (a rank for which you have to pay accordingly), it will come to the point that you will have to pay a fee for just entering the website (I don't think you need to explain who it is 😅) Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
etorix Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 1. Not sure I understand your question… MacOS does not require a dongle. 2. But it requires a supported (AMD) GPU. If 3060 covers three slots, you'll have to take the audio card out to put a second dGPU in this slot. There should be enough room for a double slot GPU; if not, you're essentially limited to the Radeon Pro WX4100, WX5100, WX7100 and W5500 (single slot). https://dortania.github.io/GPU-Buyers-Guide/buyers-guide/what-gpu-to-get.html#single-slot-gpus RX 550 is best avoided, unless you're certain it is the right kind of core. 3. Which BIOS settings? Edited March 16, 2022 by etorix 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FICU Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 57 minutes ago, etorix said: 1. Not sure I understand your question… MacOS does not require a dongle. You misunderstood me. I didn't mean the dongle as a license. As long as I remember correctly reading information about Hackintosh some time ago, it was probably about BT / WiFi dongling, but I don't remember if it has anything to do with e.g. macOS synchronization with iOS. 1 hour ago, etorix said: 2. But it requires a supported (AMD) GPU. If 3060 covers three slots, you'll have to take the audio card out to put a second dGPU in this slot. There should be enough room for a double slot GPU; if not, you're essentially limited to the Radeon Pro WX4100, WX5100, WX7100 and W5500 (single slot). https://dortania.github.io/GPU-Buyers-Guide/buyers-guide/what-gpu-to-get.html#single-slot-gpus RX 550 is best avoided, unless you're certain it is the right kind of core. Theoretically, under my current RTX which is plugged into slot no. 1 I would fit a two-slot GPU (RTX takes 2.5 slots), but I am not sure about this solution and would prefer to avoid it because then RTX would have a 2-3mm gap from the fans to the backplate of the second GPU (Radeon in this case): / I suspect that this would affect GPU temperatures and there would be increases despite having a well-ventilated PC case (unless I'm wrong, please correct me). As for Radeon, thanks for the link, although I have already used the author's courtesy 🙂 Jutor I am to receive a screen from this seller with Device_ID, although as far as I know it is, unfortunately, Lexa (core clock - 1100 MHz, boost core clock - 1206 MHz, Timing memory - 7000 MHz): / 2 hours ago, etorix said: 3. Which BIOS settings? All in all, it's only now that I noticed that on the Z690, the BIOS settings for the W11 and macOS are very similar. Maybe I'll ask otherwise. Do I have to prepare the BIOS in a proper way to have DualBoot (W11 & macOS)? Does the CFG Lock option affect performance under W11? Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 CFG Lock option is just foolproof. Set it to disable and W11 will be happy as well as macOS. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
etorix Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, FICU said: You misunderstood me. I didn't mean the dongle as a license. As long as I remember correctly reading information about Hackintosh some time ago, it was probably about BT / WiFi dongling, but I don't remember if it has anything to do with e.g. macOS synchronization with iOS. Right, if you want WiFi and/or Blutooth, and then macOS functions which rely on these (Continuity, Universal Control), you need a supported PCIe card (e.g. Fenvi T919), M.2 module or USB dongle. 9 hours ago, FICU said: Theoretically, under my current RTX which is plugged into slot no. 1 I would fit a two-slot GPU (RTX takes 2.5 slots), but I am not sure about this solution and would prefer to avoid it because then RTX would have a 2-3mm gap from the fans to the backplate of the second GPU (Radeon in this case): / I suspect that this would affect GPU temperatures and there would be increases despite having a well-ventilated PC case (unless I'm wrong, please correct me). Cooling would be no worse than in a dual GPU setting… You could have the RTX in SLOT6 (numbering up from the bottom, per ATX specification), an AMD GPU (up to double-slot) in SLOT3 and audio (or WiFi) in SLOT1. But, on closer inspection, I see that SLOT3 is not bifurcated from the CPU, as I first thought, but comes from the Z690 PCH as PCIe 3.0 x4, which is not optimal for a GPU, and may not work nicely with macOS. Technically, the best solution would be to replace the RTX 3060 Ti by an AMD GPU that is suitable for both OS. But RX 6700 is not supported, so the choice is between (a) a downgrade to RX 6600 (XT), RX 5700 (XT) or lower, and (b) an upgrade to RX 6800 (XT), at an extra cost. No good solution here, I'm afraid. Edited March 17, 2022 by etorix 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FICU Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, etorix said: 10 hours ago, FICU said: You misunderstood me. I didn't mean the dongle as a license. As long as I remember correctly reading information about Hackintosh some time ago, it was probably about BT / WiFi dongling, but I don't remember if it has anything to do with e.g. macOS synchronization with iOS. Right, if you want WiFi and/or Blutooth, and then macOS functions which rely on these (Continuity, Universal Control), you need a supported PCIe card (e.g. Fenvi T919), M.2 module or USB dongle. Thanks for clearing up this point. At the moment, I do not need BT / WiFi (I do not use BT on a daily basis and I have the internet connected with a cable) but even if there is such a need, it is not a problem to add these things 🙂 1 hour ago, etorix said: 10 hours ago, FICU said: Theoretically, under my current RTX which is plugged into slot no. 1 I would fit a two-slot GPU (RTX takes 2.5 slots), but I am not sure about this solution and would prefer to avoid it because then RTX would have a 2-3mm gap from the fans to the backplate of the second GPU (Radeon in this case): / I suspect that this would affect GPU temperatures and there would be increases despite having a well-ventilated PC case (unless I'm wrong, please correct me). Cooling would be no worse than in a dual GPU setting… You could have the RTX in SLOT6 (numbering up from the bottom, per ATX specification), an AMD GPU (up to double-slot) in SLOT3 and audio (or WiFi) in SLOT1. But, on closer inspection, I see that SLOT3 is not bifurcated from the CPU, as I first thought, but comes from the Z690 PCH as PCIe 3.0 x4, which is not optimal for a GPU, and may not work nicely with macOS. Technically, the best solution would be to replace the RTX 3060 Ti by an AMD GPU that is suitable for both OS. But RX 6700 is not supported, so the choice is between (a) a downgrade to RX 6600 (XT), RX 5700 (XT) or lower, and (b) an upgrade to RX 6800 (XT), at an extra cost. No good solution here, I'm afraid. I must admit that replacing the RTX with the RX would be the fastest way to solve this problem, but the problem is that I submitted this computer exactly a month ago and now I do not have the resources to afford it: / And as if I bought a Radeon Pro WX instead of RX 5XX 4100 which is on PCI-E gen. 3 and currently I can buy it cheaper than the used MSI RX570 4GB (after converting from PLN to Euro, the WX4100 is 50 euro cheaper than the RX570). Another advantage of this card would be the fact that my girlfriend studies Interior Architecture and works with ArchiCad, AutoCad and SketchUp on a daily basis, so if my woman would like macOS, she could use this GPU to the fullest. However, before any purchase, I would prefer to get to know the opinion of someone who has a better idea of it than me 🙂 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 No matter how the card is powerful you may always find the task for it will be slow. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FICU Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Slice said: No matter how the card is powerful you may always find the task for it will be slow. Could you please explain this to me because I don't know how to understand it? Are drivers to blame for this or something else? Out of curiosity, I checked several online stores and at the moment Radeon is unavailable for me (the RTX3060 cost me after converting 767.92 Euro and the RX6800 XT currently costs 1,301.31 Euro in PL, where its MSRP was 587.23 Euro). Until the GPU breaks down, I don't see the point in overpaying just to be able to run macOS without any problems, all in all, it's more about the issues of living in Poland, stagnant earnings (although in my case it is not bad) and living expenses that grow from month to month . Is there any other solution besides replacing the GPU with the RX6800 XT? The only thing that comes to my mind is to assemble the used PC parts specifically for Hackintosh, it would look like a Mini-ITX board (Intel or Ryzen is a matter of what will be easier to adapt to macOS) and close it all in some small housing . I know that I am starting to figure it out, but I have been working on the topic of iOS / macOS for a few days and I have turned myself to try the full Apple ecosystem. If you have an idea worth thinking about, I would like to get to know it 🙂 Finally, I would like to thank you for taking your time and helping me in this matter 🙂 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
etorix Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 @Slice means you can always find a workload that exceeds what any GPU can process. Note that a Radeon Pro is not naturally "more suited" to CAD tasks. Under Windows there are different drivers for "workstation" Radeon Pro (accuracy first) and gaming Radeon (frame rate first); under macOS all drivers are of the "workstation" kind, so a WX4100 and a RX460/560 behave exactly the same. The WX4100 is a nice little card tough. If you go for making another build for macOS, Intel is easier, and "Ryzentosh" has issues with many professional applications. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FICU Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 47 minutes ago, etorix said: @Slice means you can always find a workload that exceeds what any GPU can process. Note that a Radeon Pro is not naturally "more suited" to CAD tasks. Under Windows there are different drivers for "workstation" Radeon Pro (accuracy first) and gaming Radeon (frame rate first); under macOS all drivers are of the "workstation" kind, so a WX4100 and a RX460/560 behave exactly the same. The WX4100 is a nice little card tough. If you go for making another build for macOS, Intel is easier, and "Ryzentosh" has issues with many professional applications. Thanks for explaining the words @Slice because I personally interpreted it a bit differently 😛 Of course, I fully understand it and agree with these words. As for this Radeon, I have to admit that I did not know that all the magic concerns only the drivers and not the GPU itself, it seemed to me that since the GPU is dedicated to "office work", there are differences in its design, comparing it to e.g. RX460 / 560. Thank you for clarifying this point. Personally, I don't know what to do about it, it feels like I'm standing still and don't know which direction to go. On the one hand, it would be more convenient to have a separate Hackintosh unit packed in a small case that would fit nicely on the desk, but it involves an additional cost for individual parts. Personally, I would prefer to use my PC, buy a Radeon GPU and for a certain period I could test the operation of the system itself and the entire ecosystem. After some time, when I had an opinion on Hackintosh, I could decide what to do next, if I did not like this system, it would be enough to put Radeon for sale and it would be settled. However, if I was convinced of it, then I could buy a housing, MOBO, CPU, RAM and PSU, I would add WX4100 to it and I would have a ready PC for macOS. Taking the opportunity that you have contributed to my topic, could I ask you to express your opinion on what you would do in my situation? I wouldn't want to spend money unnecessarily or on something that won't work with Hackintosh later. Unfortunately, my knowledge of Hackintosh stopped at the time of Socket 775 (a few, if not several years have passed since my last adventure with macOS and after such a time you can see a lot of progress in this matter). I do not hide that I greatly appreciate your help and knowledge in the subject of Hackintosh and thanks to this I know that I came to the right forum with a good group of users where help is offered out of goodness and not the desire to profit on "freshmen" and calling for a fee for a stupid write-off in the topic: -) Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
etorix Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 You're welcome, but I won't be able to answer your question. Both options are reasonable. The MSI PRO Z690-A has a "Golden Build" as a hackintosh at another forum which-shall-not-be-named-here. If you make another build with second-hand parts, a 10th generation Core on 400-series chipset (NOT 500-series!), or older, has supported iGPU and does not need a dGPU. (Graphic performance is another matter, but the iGPU would be fine for trying.) So the choice will be down to very personal factors: Parts you may already own. Whether you prefer sharing a computer of having two computers. An opportunity to get interesting parts and/or sell the RTX. And, of course, there is one last factor. Hackintoshes are coming to an end. Apple may soon discontinue the last two Intel-based Macs, and we have perhaps only two or three more years before macOS no longer supports X86. So you must factor how long you want to use a hackintosh, and whether you'd have use for the computer under Windows (or Linux…). If you end up swapping the RTX 3060 Ti for a RX 6800 XT or buying all components for new build, the cost may be close to that of a Mac mini—the current M1 mini, or perhaps, the M2 mini which is expected in a not too distant future—and the Apple Silicon Mac would be a better option in the long term. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FICU Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 14 hours ago, etorix said: You're welcome, but I won't be able to answer your question. Both options are reasonable. The MSI PRO Z690-A has a "Golden Build" as a hackintosh at another forum which-shall-not-be-named-here. If you make another build with second-hand parts, a 10th generation Core on 400-series chipset (NOT 500-series!), or older, has supported iGPU and does not need a dGPU. (Graphic performance is another matter, but the iGPU would be fine for trying.) So the choice will be down to very personal factors: Parts you may already own. Whether you prefer sharing a computer of having two computers. An opportunity to get interesting parts and/or sell the RTX. And, of course, there is one last factor. Hackintoshes are coming to an end. Apple may soon discontinue the last two Intel-based Macs, and we have perhaps only two or three more years before macOS no longer supports X86. So you must factor how long you want to use a hackintosh, and whether you'd have use for the computer under Windows (or Linux…). If you end up swapping the RTX 3060 Ti for a RX 6800 XT or buying all components for new build, the cost may be close to that of a Mac mini—the current M1 mini, or perhaps, the M2 mini which is expected in a not too distant future—and the Apple Silicon Mac would be a better option in the long term. I thought it through coolly, and you are quite right about the profitability of Hackintosh. Currently, I am checking it under VMWare and this must be enough for me, especially since the prices of the Mac Mini are not so high (new on M1). However, I also saw a lot of used Mac Mini in interesting money (comparable to the prices of the Hackintosh GPU). Is it worth pushing into older designs for e.g. i5 from 2014? How is it with their support from Apple? Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
etorix Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 The 2014 Mac mini is quite old. Apple may support it until the end of macOS on Intel… if the end is near. I still use my 2012 mini under Mojave, but I would no longer spend to get a spare one. This is good for daily use, but not representative of the experience of a current Mac for real work. In my opinion, the choice now is between jumping to Apple Silicon; or making a decent Hackintosh (up to 10th gen. for the iGPU, or 12th gen. for maximal performance) right now, and accepting to "fossilize" on it for some years (2-3 years with macOS updates, and then some more years on the "last macOS version for Intel" until it is no longer acceptable to use old versions of applications). 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FICU Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 6 hours ago, etorix said: The 2014 Mac mini is quite old. Apple may support it until the end of macOS on Intel… if the end is near. I still use my 2012 mini under Mojave, but I would no longer spend to get a spare one. This is good for daily use, but not representative of the experience of a current Mac for real work. In my opinion, the choice now is between jumping to Apple Silicon; or making a decent Hackintosh (up to 10th gen. for the iGPU, or 12th gen. for maximal performance) right now, and accepting to "fossilize" on it for some years (2-3 years with macOS updates, and then some more years on the "last macOS version for Intel" until it is no longer acceptable to use old versions of applications). Reading your answer, you probably gave me a solution 🙂 Swapping these two options, I concluded that at the moment the cheapest solution is to use my PC with 12600K, I would buy the above-mentioned WX 4100 for it and until Apple supports Intel processors, the matter would be resolved. In the meantime, if I would like working on macOS and its ecosystem, I would have some time to set aside money for, for example, a Mac Mini M1 / 16GB / 256GB SSD or the Apple Silicon you mentioned, as if it were in interesting money to take out. Buying a Mobo (chipset * 400), Intel 10 *** CPU, RAM, PSU and housing will definitely be a bigger expense compared to buying only a GPU, especially that if I would like working on macOS, this platform is also "put to death", same as with my current platform. In the end, the end result is that I would have to switch to "real macOS flesh and blood" spending more $$$ first on PC under Hackintosh and then on Mac Mini. How would you rate my thoughts? Could this be seen as approaching a solution to this problem? Does it have "arms and legs" and I won't have much difficulty setting up a Hackintosh? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
etorix Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 If you do not have some spare parts to begin a new build, then this becomes the least attractive option and your reasoning looks sound. There are detailed explanations for hackintoshing your Z690 board on another forum (no name or link allowed here, in accordance with the rules). If macOS does work with a GPU on PCH lanes (that's the only part I'm not sure about…), you only need to add a SSDT to disable the RTX under macOS. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FICU Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, etorix said: If you do not have some spare parts to begin a new build, then this becomes the least attractive option and your reasoning looks sound. There are detailed explanations for hackintoshing your Z690 board on another forum (no name or link allowed here, in accordance with the rules). If macOS does work with a GPU on PCH lanes (that's the only part I'm not sure about…), you only need to add a SSDT to disable the RTX under macOS. I have already talked to the seller of the WX4100. At my request, the seller made a 40-minute test using Furmark and sent 4 screenshots with a full test log. Everything is fine with my eye, but to be sure, could you take a look at it with your own eye? I think you have knowledge about these Radeons, and you are the owner of the higher WX series models, maybe I missed something in the logs that could indicate that there is something wrong with it. What is this "other forum", before writing this topic, I was looking for information on Hackintosh for the Z690-A on Google, I got there without any problems, but I do not take everything that is there seriously (the truth is that I did not pay them a tribute to be the "better user" for whom there is a moment to help :-D). However, since you are referring me there again, this time I will try to read it all with attention and understanding xD BTW. As for this "portal whose name must not be mentioned", the very fact of how it is presented reminds me of a scene from Harry Potter and "the name of which must not be spoken" 😄 Quote 1. Quote 2. Quote 3. Quote 4. Quote GPU-Z Sensor Log.txt Edited March 18, 2022 by FICU Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
etorix Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 If the card works it's all good… Radeon Pro cards are not (ab)used by gamers and unlikely to have ever been overclocked, modded or put to mining 24/7—and the WX4100 is not powerful enough to be of interest to miners anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FICU Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, etorix said: If the card works it's all good… Radeon Pro cards are not (ab)used by gamers and unlikely to have ever been overclocked, modded or put to mining 24/7—and the WX4100 is not powerful enough to be of interest to miners anyway. In the end, I bought this GPU, nice of the seller, providing a 7-day startup warranty. When the GPU comes, I will try to fasten everything together and let me know if it worked. I still have a question about the installation itself. I currently have the following hard drives: - 1x Samsung 1TB M.2 PCIe4.0 NVMe 980 (1 partition 300GB for Windows, 2 partition 631GB for games, programs and personal files), - 1x Samsung 500GB 870 EVO SATA (only 1 partition as an additional disk for games) - 1x WDC 1000GB HDD (1 partition as old photo / video / music storage) - 1x New Samsung 500GB 870 EVO SATA (not connected, delivered to me yesterday) Does Hackintosh have any "special requirements" for the disk (Of course I only mean SSD, not HDD)? My guess is that for Hackintosh it would be good to use the M.2 NVMe SSD due to the transfers that such a disk can achieve, but having a new, unused SATA SSD disk, I could use it for Hackintosh without spending unnecessary money. I have important files and documents on my disks that I would not like to lose. Can I disconnect the drives during the installation to be sure? Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
etorix Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 MacOS is actually picky with NVMe drives and, among others, Monterey does not like booting on Samsung NVMe drives. At all. There has been a report of Monterey wearing out a brand new 980 in a matter of weeks. There is a mitigation strategy (setting TRIM timeout to the maximum value, and living with slow boot) but it is best not to use affected drives as macOS boot drives. WD 750/850 are the current NVMe recommendation for Monterey. I use Toshiba/Kioxia drives (consumer XG5/XG6 and data centre XD5), but have still to test these with Monterey. SATA drives are all fine: Use the 870 EVO. And, most importantly, it's fine to keep the 980 as Windows drive for dual boot—macOS won't touch it! For multi-boot, it is good practice to physically remove the drives of other OSes while installing, out of safety, although issues reportedly arise the other way around: Linux or Windows grab the first EFI partition they find and put their stuff in there, breaking macOS boot. If you spend some time unplugging drives, I'd suggest to take out the RTX as well, install macOS with the WX4100 in the CPU PCIe slot first and then proceed to move the card to the PCH slot, adjust if needed and set up the dual boot. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FICU Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 11:43 AM, etorix said: MacOS is actually picky with NVMe drives and, among others, Monterey does not like booting on Samsung NVMe drives. At all. There has been a report of Monterey wearing out a brand new 980 in a matter of weeks. There is a mitigation strategy (setting TRIM timeout to the maximum value, and living with slow boot) but it is best not to use affected drives as macOS boot drives. WD 750/850 are the current NVMe recommendation for Monterey. I use Toshiba/Kioxia drives (consumer XG5/XG6 and data centre XD5), but have still to test these with Monterey. SATA drives are all fine: Use the 870 EVO. And, most importantly, it's fine to keep the 980 as Windows drive for dual boot—macOS won't touch it! For multi-boot, it is good practice to physically remove the drives of other OSes while installing, out of safety, although issues reportedly arise the other way around: Linux or Windows grab the first EFI partition they find and put their stuff in there, breaking macOS boot. If you spend some time unplugging drives, I'd suggest to take out the RTX as well, install macOS with the WX4100 in the CPU PCIe slot first and then proceed to move the card to the PCH slot, adjust if needed and set up the dual boot. Ok, thank you very much for your help 🙂 As soon as I get the GPU I will start installing the Hackintosh. After all, I will let you know on this topic, unless something will not work, then I will ask you for help 😛 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BALDY_MAN Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I used ADATA MVMe Drives old gpu 7970 works( after adding efi to gpu bios) have just updated to AMD Radeon RX6800xt. works well Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2778672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FICU Posted April 8, 2022 Author Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) After almost a month, I was only able to start trying to install Hackintosh. I installed macOS 12 in a virtual machine (I will immediately warn you against the fact that I received the original bootable flash drive from a friend who has an iMac, but seeing a problem with starting the installation, I decided to check if the image is correct and run it on a virtual machine. For the lack of this information I received a ban on one "portal"), then created a bootable USB along with the EFI and despite many attempts and attempts to fix the problem with running the installation. Thinking that the fault is in the flash drive, I copied the partitions from bootable USB to Samsung SSD, but unnecessarily (the only plus at the moment is reading speed). I am powerless and I would like to ask you for help. Could you please take a look at my EFI and see where the problem is? In addition, I upload the log and my DSDT, although it is rather unnecessary. I created SSDT to disable iGPU and nVidia dGPU, additionally in Config I added the path to Radeon. I disabled Secure Boot, VT-d, CFG Lock, dTPM 2.0, XMP 3600Mhz CL15 in the BIOS. I also tried a lot of boot-args but it didn't do much either. Thank you in advance for your help EFI.7z Logs.7z SysReport.7z Edited April 9, 2022 by FICU Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2779570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
etorix Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 It's recommended to delete your serial numbers before posting! ACPI contains folder contains SSDT-PLUG-ALT-6P, which defines only 6 P cores, but config.plist expects SSDT-PLUG-ALT-E-12600K. Using the standard SSDT-PLUG-ALT would be the best choice. If you don't want to use E-cores, disable them in BIOS and disable ProvideCurrentCpuInfo. The MCHC part of SSDT-SBUS-MCHC is redundant with the ACPI rename MC->MCHC, but this should not prevent booting. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2779585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FICU Posted April 9, 2022 Author Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, etorix said: It's recommended to delete your serial numbers before posting! ACPI contains folder contains SSDT-PLUG-ALT-6P, which defines only 6 P cores, but config.plist expects SSDT-PLUG-ALT-E-12600K. Using the standard SSDT-PLUG-ALT would be the best choice. If you don't want to use E-cores, disable them in BIOS and disable ProvideCurrentCpuInfo. The MCHC part of SSDT-SBUS-MCHC is redundant with the ACPI rename MC->MCHC, but this should not prevent booting. Thank you for your answer. Sorry for SN, i forgot to delete them. The SSDT-PLUG-ALT-6P is my mistake, yesterday before writing the post I made a quick order in the folder and accidentally deleted the wrong SSDT. Previously, I tried to use SSDT-PLUG-ALT-6P, SSDT-PLUG-ALT-12600k and SSDT-PLUG-ALT itself, but the effect was the same. In this case I will try to use SSDT-SBUS-MCHC without the part containing MCHC, or remove from ACPI -> Patch the option changing MC_ to MCHC Edited April 9, 2022 by FICU Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2779639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FICU Posted April 10, 2022 Author Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) After many tries I got stuck on [EB|#LOG:EXITBS:START]. I tried everything from the OC guide, but nothing helps to start the installation, I keep getting a crossed circle with the Apple website address. Could someone have a look at my config with the log? EFI.raropencore-2022-04-10-135330.txt Edited April 10, 2022 by FICU Quote Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/351118-z690-gpu-selection-for-hackintosh/#findComment-2779722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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