The M.A.R.T. Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Identifying the problem: All goes fine untill the final installing part. Tried it with two versions. 10.4.4 and JAS 10.4.5/6 (update) Both burned on a DVD+R with 4 x speed Setup: Compaq Presario R3000 (in bios it says R3200) with AMD64 3400+ CPU if my information is right SSE2 enabled, 1,25 GB Ram, Geforce 4 64 MB. External Iomega Minimax 320 GB bootable HDD with USB2.0 connected and supported by the laptop/bios Adding -v in prompt. No substantial errors only the airport. All stuff done with HDD in FAT32 and in diskpart created partition primary id=af Installing runs fine. No errors. Only with both versions at the end of the installing process it 'hangs' in the installscript (on 6 minutes before finalizing process it's really sad, with one copy it's saying "Installing 'we stole it sucker'", the other just installscript or something like that. Not really hanging computer, because the blue spoiler is running like it's installing. But even with 6 hours after that nothing happens. Now is there any solution for this??? Thanks in advance if anyone can help me. I ran through the installation proces 5 times now and it costed me some nights sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The M.A.R.T. Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Has no one ever had this? I can't really believe it... I am about to install the JAS 10.4.5/6 again, with less installment options to see if it gets through... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The M.A.R.T. Posted November 26, 2006 Author Share Posted November 26, 2006 Well I'll just keep replying myself as no one yet answered Yesterday I tried to install JAS 10.4.6 through VMware. And it got through the whole installation proces just fine but I have no idea where it installed exactly. I mean I used the easy guide of SABR and got the external USB disc in there. Then in the screen for selecting a HDD, I would never see the drive, also not in the partition/erase area. Which I do get when I do the native install on the JAS DVD Booting up. But well. Now I know it should install at least. I just burned the DVD on 2.4 x speed instead of the initial 4 x speed. Let's see if that makes a difference... If anyone has a smart moment of what it could be it would be more then welcome to drop it overhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrax Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Sorry to see that no one answered your posts while you are trying so hard... :pirate2: I have installed osx86 on AMD Athlon-64 3200 with no problems starting 10.4.3 to 10.4.6 using JAs dvd's and Maxxuss patched kernels. Are you sure your AMD proc. doesn't have SSE3 ? Try installing again booting off the dvd and if in the setup screen start disk manager and erase and format hpfs the partition you are going to install on.. then install and reboot and see what happens ! Succes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The M.A.R.T. Posted November 26, 2006 Author Share Posted November 26, 2006 Sorry to see that no one answered your posts while you are trying so hard... :pirate2: I have installed osx86 on AMD Athlon-64 3200 with no problems starting 10.4.3 to 10.4.6 using JAs dvd's and Maxxuss patched kernels. Are you sure your AMD proc. doesn't have SSE3 ? Try installing again booting off the dvd and if in the setup screen start disk manager and erase and format hpfs the partition you are going to install on.. then install and reboot and see what happens ! Succes ! Well it's a laptop AMD64 3400+, and in the startup -v it says SSE2, no SSE3. My desktop AMD64 3000+ even not supports SSE2 I guess... But it should work even with SSE2. I have been booting off the DVD also. Including the disk manager/erase etc. Still a the end hanging... The strange thing is, in VMWare it ran, completely through the installation process. The drive was the external USB that was put in VMWare, but I have no idea were it installed the 8 GB of data, because after the installation process was done, I couldn't see anything anywhere. Maybe I go experimenting with VMWare again then if the native boot off DVD won't work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The M.A.R.T. Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 So that's it. The normal install booting of the 10.4.6 JAS DVD is the last time I did that. After hours and hours of installing, it just sits there on 7 minutes to go with the Mac OS X-Installscript to be executed... The blue line is still showing movement, but nothing is happening. I am out of clues what this could be. Have tried different versions and different options/patches. Nothing did happen. I guess I need to go the VMWare road, as I tried it and it could complete but I have no idea where it installed, because I had a virtual partition or something like that. I could not detect my drive in the installing program through VMWare, which I can with the normal boot. The question now turns into (because the normal DVD boot I am really getting sick of waiting all those hours not working in the end): how can I get my external USB 2.0 Minimax recognized and displayed through VMWare when installing OSX86? I haven't read it in the VMWare tutorials, as they all say the drive should be there/recognized. Strange thing is, it sees the mounted DVD-Rom, I made the HDD connected in VMWare and used the 'Independent/Persistant' checkbox in the advanced screen (and could see the external HDD was there with 300 GB's from the Iomega Minimax). Hope someone can help me with this problem so I can install OSX at last... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Well it's a laptop AMD64 3400+, and in the startup -v it says SSE2, no SSE3. My desktop AMD64 3000+ even not supports SSE2 I guess... The DVD has an SSE2 kernel, so it only sees your SSE2 instructions. Try running CPU-Z under Windows to see if you have SSE3 or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The M.A.R.T. Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 The DVD has an SSE2 kernel, so it only sees your SSE2 instructions. Try running CPU-Z under Windows to see if you have SSE3 or not. Well with -v in the OSX installmentscreen, I saw the line coming buy only saying SSE2, not SSE3. But I will reboot my laptop in a few minutes (it's still hanging on those 7 minutes left but I wanted to make sure it doesn't go on....). I will try CPU-Z after that to make sure it's only SSE2. But well that's not the main problem here I think. And I am totally done with the of DVD boot install. Like TOTALLY So I'll go the VMWare route now. And have seen it runs to the proces like a charm. Only problem: I have no idea were it did install. I didn't see my external USB drive, I made a partition on what I thought was the external USB drive (by some part in VMWare I can't remember at this point in time), but after the reboot it wasn't there... But I've seen the total installation proces running and ending without any problems. So if I get to the point where VMWare recognizes my external USB HDD I'm done and it will install Anyone that knows a smart trick for me to let the HDD show up through VMWare installation (and yeah I've been in disk utilities, and know that there I have to erase if there is the disk present. But the disk isn't there... yet) Thanks in advance! edit: yup like I already saw in the -v OSX installscreen: AMD Athlon 64 3400+, ClawHammer, socket 754, SSE2 new update: just whiped the external HDD again with FAT32, did the diskpart id=af stuff and now running VMWare. DAMN the HDD isn't visible again... Only seeing the VMWare CD Rom/install disc... Update nr. 3: in VMWare, when I make a Virtual Machine/Typical, I get the USB added in the virtual machine. With the Custom install it doesn't. Would that be the trick to let it see the USB HDD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The M.A.R.T. Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 Allright then I don't have exactly an idea what I am doing, but it could turn out to work. I made a New Virtual Machine in VMWare. Typical one. Made an 8 GB virtual partition on my external USB HDD. When booting the OSX ISO, it sees that partition at least. Not the complete HDD. But well it's something. Now installing in that virtual partition. I hope now it will turn out to work. I'll post here and keep updated if other persons have the same problems. If someone has the knowledge to explain if this is right, or what I should be doing on another way it's also welcome information as this is total guesswork for me at this point in time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The M.A.R.T. Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 Update of installing proces: It installed. It rebooted in VMWare. Then VM Ware says that the other OS has disabeled the CPU or something like that and it stops working. So I thought to shut down the laptop, take out the internal HDD and boot on the HDD USB with the virtual partition on it to go on with the installation proces. Then it says invalid partition table. What could I do from here on? Need to go on in VMWare or normal boot on USB? What are the possibilities to let it recognize the partition OR let VMWare go on without the system saying the CPU was shut down by the other system or something like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The M.A.R.T. Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 So I found out why things are not working in VMWare with the USB 2.0 HDD When you follow the guides, the USB HDD external is recognized as a SCSI drive. The internal DVD rom is IDE (as is the internal HDD). When running the OSX install ISO, IDE is recognized, SCSI isn't. BUT the strange thing is, the external USB is supported when you have made a virtual drive on it in VMWare before you start up the OSX with a virtual comp. You'll even see that virtual partition, even if it's on the external USB. Heck, you will even be able to install on it. But it won't be a native running OSX. It's because when activating the virtual drive/partition on the external USB HDD, VMWare makes an IDE drive of it instead SCSI. Too bad without the virtual partition/drive you won't be able to call it an IDE device. The workaround I am going to make now is copying the entire XP drive internal in the laptop to the external USB HDD and make it bootable, delete the internal HDD aftewards and then run VMWare + installing OSX on the internal drive... There you have it. If you experience similair problems this is why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidding Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 In VMWARE you have an option to use an entire hard disk or just certain partitions in the virtual machine. You can install it through the virtual machine on the real partition then use boot.ini + chain0 to boot darwin. If nothing fixes the 6 minute problem, just install it through vmware, hopefully you'll be able to boot os x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The M.A.R.T. Posted November 28, 2006 Author Share Posted November 28, 2006 In VMWARE you have an option to use an entire hard disk or just certain partitions in the virtual machine. You can install it through the virtual machine on the real partition then use boot.ini + chain0 to boot darwin. If nothing fixes the 6 minute problem, just install it through vmware, hopefully you'll be able to boot os x. I don't understand what you mean exactly. Yes I can choose for the entire USB 2.0 external HDD or a partition in the virtual machine, BUT I won't see them in the OSX install menu unless I make a virtual drive/partition on it... It's really strange. So now I try to clone the XP on the internal laptop HDD to the external USB HDD. First time got me booting from the USB HDD into XP and then failed with a blue screen. Damn I think I'm out of luck for the rest of my life on this one... Or does anyone has some nice idea's that I can still do. Man I'm so close every time and then something spoils it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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