SAMEH209 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Hi, this is my system : M.B:Gigabyte G41MT-S2P Rev.1.3 GPU:Ati His 4670 HD 1GB CPU:Intel Core2Duo E7500 @2.93 GHZ I Can Boot Correctly Only On Safe Mode (With -x) But If I Dont Use Safe Mode I Had A Loading Circle For 3-4 Seconds Then Empty Gray Screen And Nothing Happens! I Tried To Boot With Safe Mode And Installed m u l t i b e a s t Then Rebooted And The Same Problem Is Happening And How Can I See My NTFS Partitions On My Mac Please Help And Thank You ------------------------- Tried to install m u l t i b e a s t again and now it gives me kernel panic but boots successfully with -x Please Help Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PookyMacMan Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 My recommendation: do not use [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url]. That is a tool that only causes problems. Rather, reinstall using the all in one solution OSx86 ModCD - a guide is in my signature. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1813880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMEH209 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 Ok i will try thanks :wink2: Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1813935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMEH209 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 i tried the method in your sig. it is the same problem ! i can only boot with safe mode (-x) ! without it i have a apple logo and loading circle then empty gray screen! P.S:i installed without mach_kernel command because it gave me a black x white screen after 5 minutes (My Cpu Is Core2Duo) Please Help ! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1813966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlf Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 The Apple logo with spinning circle tells us nothing. When faced with problems, ALWAYS boot with -v so that the text of the boot is visible. Report on what it says when it hangs - give the last few lines of text or a picture. And you have to install some version of kernel or it will not boot. The kernel is the brain of the operation and without it the whole thing is brain dead. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1813978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMEH209 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 ok i will try -v and tell you And how do i install a kernel? and where to get it? Thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1813983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlf Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 P.S:i installed without mach_kernel command because it gave me a black x white screen after 5 minutes (My Cpu Is Core2Duo) ModCD would have helped you with your kernel. I believe with your processor, you would have chosen a vanilla kernel. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1813990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMEH209 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 those are the last lines : Debugger Called <Panic> Backtrace (CPU0), Frame : Return Address (And 20 lines of codes like 0xfff and these things) Backtrace Continuos BSDProcess name Corresponding to current thread :kextd MAC OS Version: 10A432 Kernel Version : Darwin Kernel Version :10,0,0 System Model Name : imac8.1 System uptime in nanoseconds = 17235756197 I hope it can be fixed ModCD would have helped you with your kernel. I believe with your processor, you would have chosen a vanilla kernel. how to select it ? (Sorry Iam new to all this ) And this is a video http://youtu.be/3Jg_rth8ATY Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1813993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlf Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 The splash screen of ModCD says that in order to use the vanilla kernel, you type "mach_kernel" (without the quotes). Since you didn't do this, I think you have a legacy kernel which is the default kernel. You said it gave you a black and white screen after 5 minutes. This isn't necessarily the fault of the kernel and I don't truly understand when and where it turned black and white. Were the graphics black and white? Or just black and white text? Or black and white splotches? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMEH209 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 i tried with "mach_kernel" but it gave me the black screen with white text then the whole screen became a mess (a thing like white x black splotches!) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlf Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 But that isn't necessarily the kernel that did that. The screen "mess" probably happened when the drivers for video kicked in. Should try again and type: -v -x mach_kernel The -v gives you white text on a black screen. That is intentional so that you can read any errors. The -x among other things will turn off the video drivers. And mach_kernel will force it to install with the vanilla kernel. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iFIRE Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 those are the last lines : Debugger Called <Panic> Backtrace (CPU0), Frame : Return Address (And 20 lines of codes like 0xfff and these things) Backtrace Continuos BSDProcess name Corresponding to current thread :kextd MAC OS Version: 10A432 Kernel Version : Darwin Kernel Version :10,0,0 System Model Name : imac8.1 System uptime in nanoseconds = 17235756197 I hope it can be fixed how to select it ? (Sorry Iam new to all this ) And this is a video http://youtu.be/3Jg_rth8ATY This is for your graphics kexts, try this: end this boot flag x -v GraphicsEnabler=No npci=0x2000 UseKernelCache=No USBFix=Yes Cpus=1 darkwake=0 PciRoot=0 boot whit -s mount / mkdir /KextOff/ cd / cd /System/Library/Extensions mv ATI*kext /KextOff sudo rm -rf /System/Library/Caches/* cd / shutdown -r now Good luck!!! :wink2: Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMEH209 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 But that isn't necessarily the kernel that did that. The screen "mess" probably happened when the drivers for video kicked in. Should try again and type: -v -x mach_kernel The -v gives you white text on a black screen. That is intentional so that you can read any errors. The -x among other things will turn off the video drivers. And mach_kernel will force it to install with the vanilla kernel. Booted Successfully But In Safe Mode And Thats The Problem! I Can Only Boot On Safe Mode ! This is for your graphics kexts, try this: end this boot flag x -v GraphicsEnabler=No npci=0x2000 UseKernelCache=No USBFix=Yes Cpus=1 darkwake=0 PciRoot=0 boot whit -s mount / mkdir /KextOff/ cd / cd /System/Library/Extensions mv ATI*kext /KextOff sudo rm -rf /System/Library/Caches/* cd / shutdown -r now Good luck!!! :wink2: Ok I Will Try Thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlf Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Booted Successfully But In Safe Mode And Thats The Problem! I Can Only Boot On Safe Mode ! But this just means you need to work on your graphics so you don't have to boot in safe mode anymore. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMEH209 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 This is for your graphics kexts, try this: end this boot flag x -v GraphicsEnabler=No npci=0x2000 UseKernelCache=No USBFix=Yes Cpus=1 darkwake=0 PciRoot=0 boot whit -s mount / mkdir /KextOff/ cd / cd /System/Library/Extensions mv ATI*kext /KextOff sudo rm -rf /System/Library/Caches/* cd / shutdown -r now Good luck!!! :wink2: After Doing The Red Part Then Booting Without Any Flags The Loading Circle Keeps Spinning Forever And Nothing Happend And When I Tried With -v The Last Lines Were : SystemShutdown False disk1: ioctl(_Iowr, 'd',lol,24) is unsupported Waiting For DSMOS ... And It Stays Forever But this just means you need to work on your graphics so you don't have to boot in safe mode anymore. So... What Should I Do ? Thank You Very Much For Your Help And Sorry For Disturbing Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlf Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Well, there were errors in the red text, so you shouldn't have done that. Booting -x does essentially the same thing but leaves the drivers in place so you can work on them. Since I can't verify what you actually did when you typed the red text, I think you are set up to reinstall. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMEH209 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 Ok I Will But What After Reinstall ?? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlf Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 You boot with -x until you solve your graphics problem. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMEH209 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 ok i successfully reinstalled but how i fix the graphics problem? is it about kexts? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlf Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 The answer could be replacing kexts or modifying kexts. Google: ATI 4670 insanelymac Go to Kexts.com and search for 4670 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMEH209 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 I Found This ATI Radeon 4670 kexts set for DVI-out But It Says That Its For DVI-Out But Iam Using VGA-Out (Because My Monitor Is A Bit Old) Will This Kext Work For Me? ---------- And I Found This [GUIDE] ATI Radeon HD46X0 But I Cant Understand Can You Please Explain It More Simply Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlf Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 You can try it, but I don't think so. I saw that too and it said that even before using it, the card must be able to work in VGA mode, But who knows, it might work. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMEH209 Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 Ok I Will Try It But What About The Second Thread? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlf Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 And I Found This [GUIDE] ATI Radeon HD46X0 But I Cant Understand Can You Please Explain It More Simply I can try, but it will take a lot of writing and hand-holding. Not sure I have that much time. The first thing to do is to look in the file /Extra/com.apple.Boot.plist or /Extra/org.chameleon.Boot.plist for something that says: <key>GraphicsEnabler</key> <string>Yes</string> Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PookyMacMan Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Indeed it is a graphics driver issue. The legacy kernel automatically blacklists (does not load) the graphics drivers, so that's why w/out mach_kernel works/ safe mode works. See if you can find the alternate ATi frame buffer around on the forum. rlf, even if he uses the legacy kernel, it will still install the mach_kernel because the patching script detects a supported CPU. So he would boot with legacy but install mach. And, no, you can't really select the legacy kernel in the installer because the one it installs does not blacklist the graphics drivers. Sameh, I'll "translate" a solution for you. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/278185-gray-empty-screen-while-booting-to-snow-leopard/#findComment-1814107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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