James T. Kirk© Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 First let me introduce myself. I'm a European and I am married to an American lady. Therefore I also have a American brother in law. I am a Mac user and own a 1.5 PPC based Mac mini, so I know how fun it can be working with OSX. My b.i.l., let him call Keith, was always interested in computers, tried several Linux distro's but normally uses M$ XP. His wife used to own Apple computers in the past and was always pleased with them. When they married, he was the one who bought the computers and he never thought of buying a Mac (to expensive was his thought, this was before the mini's came out) Than Apple started to move to Intel and OSX for Intel came out. Than OSX 86 for the ordinary PC appeared. As soon as I read there are downloadable iso's available, I informed him to give it a try. He is a bit paranoid though, and thinks his isp will check his larger download to see if he downloads illegal stuff. To do him a favor I searched and found 2 iso's and downloaded them using a bittorent client. One of them really booted up, the other one did not do anything it seemed, but hey, I was usually spoiled with fine working iso's which booted problemlessly does not matter what it was, Windows or Linux and never had to redo my Mac installation! Now he tells me the followng story and I'm curious if you guys ever heard of this: (After putting in the iso I downloaded, burned and brought to him all the way from Europe:) ... after the "install" which seemed to go fine the MAC OS screen started saying something like "Ha, Ha, Only I have hacked MAC OS". "I" was some hackers name and it kept repeating it and there was tons CDR and HD activity. Then on the reboot I had a black MACOS disk and a blank HD with the boot sector erased. It seemed I really had a faulty iso from somewhere and I really want him to get so far that he will buy a Mac later for himself or his wife, but it would be nice if he would have a couple of months trying out OSX and learn to know how botherless it works most of the time. I really don't know where to find a genuine one which will work on his Dell Dimension laptop, so he can fall in love with OSX... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24334-my-american-brother-in-law-doesnt-get-it-to-work/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryon Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 First I would not push him into a Mac(and it is Mac NOT MAC) secound let him use a real Mac not a Hackintosh. There is more to a Mac than just the OS. It is the hardware and software that make a real Mac a Mac. If you are as big a Mac fan as you say you are let him check OSX out on your Mac show him how to use it and let him make his own mind up if he wants one or not. XP is still a great OS with a {censored} load of software and hardware support. And it is MS or Microsoft NOT M$ all the effort to hit the $ just to slam Microsoft got old years ago and now is just stupid. It is no different that using Macinsnot or Macin{censored} Macincrap or any of the others. The hole point is that a Hackintosh will not show him a true Mac. It just might do the opposite and drive him futher away from it. Just food for thought. (After putting in the iso I downloaded, burned and brought to him all the way from Europe:) Just re-read that part after my post. Should have taken you Mac to him instead of the bad ISO. So take him to an Apple store and let him see and use one there. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24334-my-american-brother-in-law-doesnt-get-it-to-work/#findComment-168229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James T. Kirk© Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 First I would not push him into a Mac(and it is Mac NOT MAC) secound let him use a real Mac not a Hackintosh. There is more to a Mac than just the OS. It is the hardware and software that make a real Mac a Mac. If you are as big a Mac fan as you say you are let him check OSX out on your Mac show him how to use it and let him make his own mind up if he wants one or not. XP is still a great OS with a {censored} load of software and hardware support. And it is MS or Microsoft NOT M$ all the effort to hit the $ just to slam Microsoft got old years ago and now is just stupid. It is no different that using Macinsnot or Macin{censored} Macincrap or any of the others. The hole point is that a Hackintosh will not show him a true Mac. It just might do the opposite and drive him futher away from it. Just food for thought. Just re-read that part after my post. Should have taken you Mac to him instead of the bad ISO. So take him to an Apple store and let him see and use one there. Should have, would have, well, I didn't and downloaded an other version hoping and expecting this would work, but alas. I'm not wealthy enough to visit often, every 2 or 3 years if possible and he has a {censored}load of expensive pc's and laptops and I don't see him buying a expensive Macbook or MacPro, as he would not be satisfied with a an Intel mini. Moreover they don't have the money to buy something that expensive at the moment. Thanks anyway for the "upbuilding" comments, I'll look further for some people who are a little bit more helpful. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24334-my-american-brother-in-law-doesnt-get-it-to-work/#findComment-168645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryon Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I had been up way to long when I posted that. The only thing I really was trying to say was that if your brother-in-law is happy with a PC there is no reason to push him into a Mac. The reason is simple a Hackintosh will never give him what a real Mac will. However there are a few images that do work if you really what to give it a try again. Do a Pirate Bay search for MacOSX_10.4.6_GoatsecxDVD.iso will get you a ISO that does indeed work. There are plenty of HOW-TO's on this and other sites to assist. All I really ment in the other post is the trouble with the install may push him away from a Mac completelly witch of course is not what you want. Best bet get a nother ISO and test it out in vmware before you try to install it. That way if it is fake you will not loose the MBR or anything else. Good luck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24334-my-american-brother-in-law-doesnt-get-it-to-work/#findComment-168848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ѕӎѳѳ₮ңӌ Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Yeh, try the bay of pirates or demonoid. I got mine from demons, mine is a JaS distro Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24334-my-american-brother-in-law-doesnt-get-it-to-work/#findComment-169377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James T. Kirk© Posted August 19, 2006 Author Share Posted August 19, 2006 I had been up way to long when I posted that. The only thing I really was trying to say was that if your brother-in-law is happy with a PC there is no reason to push him into a Mac. The reason is simple a Hackintosh will never give him what a real Mac will. However there are a few images that do work if you really what to give it a try again. Do a Pirate Bay search for MacOSX_10.4.6_GoatsecxDVD.iso will get you a ISO that does indeed work. There are plenty of HOW-TO's on this and other sites to assist. All I really ment in the other post is the trouble with the install may push him away from a Mac completelly witch of course is not what you want. Best bet get a nother ISO and test it out in vmware before you try to install it. That way if it is fake you will not loose the MBR or anything else. Good luck Actually he is already pretty well convinced that Mac IS the better platform. His wife used to use Apple computers before they met and she cannot get used to W-XP. Since they don't have the money right now to purchase any Mac (and I don't want to advice them a cheaper 2nd hand PPC Mac, as they won't be able to see the advantages of the Intel type) they might forget about OSX in the longer run. So if there would be a possibility of getting a Dell (I think it is an Inspiron) laptop running OSX for a while, it would be a nice learning curve, getting used how to work with OSX and such. I also could give them some sound advice for beginners with my (though limited) period I use a Mac. (January). I downloaded the JaS version, but you are talking about the MacOSX_10.4.6_GoatsecxDVD.iso on Pirate Bay? I did a search but it seems to not be there? I found only MacOSXUpd10.4.7AMD when I searched with parts of the name.. (BTW I have an e-mail address here, wink, wink) If I would have these DVD's I figure there might be a way to get the Dell running with OSX with either of those iso's. Which is the easiest? I have to ask him if the Dell has a Intel (I guess) or an AMD processor. With the last iso he had such strange problems, only Ubuntu could save the MBR And for the crancky way you reacted, well, we're all human and the devil will get you when you're off guard! So you're forgive for that matter! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/24334-my-american-brother-in-law-doesnt-get-it-to-work/#findComment-170019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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