Constant freezing under OS X

[Rammjet]

A wild idea - what if you uninstalled the Neo patch for a while and see if the crashes go away. You'll have some graphic problems, but the system will be usable. If the crashes go away, you can try the manual Boris method. If they don't go away, you can resinstall Neo's patch although I'm really thinking a resinstall is becoming a viable thing to try and eliminate the problem.

[bryan Rowe]

A wild idea - what if you uninstalled the Neo patch for a while and see if the crashes go away. You'll have some graphic problems, but the system will be usable. If the crashes go away, you can try the manual Boris method. If they don't go away, you can resinstall Neo's patch although I'm really thinking a resinstall is becoming a viable thing to try and eliminate the problem.

 

 

I have removed the Neo patch, we will see if anything changes. Would you want to see any logs or anything, while I wait for a possible crash?

[Rammjet]

No logs, they don't seem to record any unusual activity before the crash.

[bryan Rowe]

bryanspc:~ bryanrowe$ uptime

16:40 up 3:13, 2 users, load averages: 0.95 0.67 0.52

 

 

Looks promising... Keeping my fingers crossed, and documents saved! Just out of curiosity, what does Neo's patch do differently that may allow the Bor... patch to work correctly?

[Rammjet]

Neo's copies over an OpenGL framework from 10.4.5 and the various ATI kexts, I don't know if he uses 10.4.5, 10.4.6 or 10.4.7.

 

With Boris, you don't replace the framework and the kexts are what you installed, usually 10.4.6.

[~Neo]

Neo's copies over an OpenGL framework from 10.4.5 and the various ATI kexts, I don't know if he uses 10.4.5, 10.4.6 or 10.4.7.

 

With Boris, you don't replace the framework and the kexts are what you installed, usually 10.4.6.

 

Hey there...

the framework is from 4.5 and the kexts (only x1000) are from 10.4.7! this is why it is working with the x1900 series! i recognized some errors with the new kexts! so if im gonna make a new version of this installer i will include the old kexts!

[bryan Rowe]

So after quite some time with no crashes, I have been considering trying the Bor... method. I looked through the first few steps, and when I went to check out my files to see if they had the lines of code that needed to be changed, I found that they didnt. For example, the first few steps require changes to lines that are nowhere to be found on this:

 

 

?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple\

.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">

<plist version="1.0">

<dict>

<key>CFBundleDevelopmentRegion</key>

<string>English</string>

<key>CFBundleExecutable</key>

<string>ATINDRV</string>

<key>CFBundleGetInfoString</key>

<string>ATINDRV 1.4.26.11 (1.0f204)</string>

<key>CFBundleIdentifier</key>

<string>com.apple.kext.ATINDRV</string>

<key>CFBundleInfoDictionaryVersion</key>

<string>6.0</string>

<key>CFBundleName</key>

<string>com.apple.driver.ATINDRV</string>

<key>CFBundlePackageType</key>

<string>KEXT</string>

<key>CFBundleShortVersionString</key>

<string>1.4.26</string>

END

[Rammjet]

What iso did you use? That file is only half as long as it should be.

 

Uninstalling Neo should just copy back your original file.

[bryan Rowe]

I used the 10.4.6 HotIso to install. It passed the check that OS X runs at the beginning. These random issues are very strange, I really followed the instructions well on everything I have done so far... I see a full reinstall being needed soon if we dont figure this out, but what is to guarantee this wont be the same after that?

[bryan Rowe]

To my surprise, my keyboard was running low on battery, so when I tried to scroll through the plist file, it was acting as if that was all there was. I replaced the batteries, and fixed applied the Boris patch. I am running back at native res, and we will see if OS X can stay up. One odd thing to note, with QuartzSimple, it informs me that Quartz2D is no longer supported, while System Profiler tells me that QE is not supported as well. With the Neo patch I had both... Maybe there is a forum post about this that I need to find.

[Rammjet]

I don't know. Other people have reported similar problems and no consistent reason has emerged. Maybe the 10.4.5 framework is needed for your card.

 

If you have Pacifist, you can extract it from Neo's installer and install it in your system.

 

But it might be a good idea to save your existing framework just in case.

[Rockett]

I had this happen to me with my old motherboard - It was the SiS chipset causing the problem. Same card, different mobo, no problem.

[chincheng]

"Constant freezing under OS X"

I have the same problem also.

Can someone provide how to solve it?

 

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[bryan Rowe]

I don't know. Other people have reported similar problems and no consistent reason has emerged. Maybe the 10.4.5 framework is needed for your card.

 

If you have Pacifist, you can extract it from Neo's installer and install it in your system.

 

But it might be a good idea to save your existing framework just in case.

 

I have been looking over it, and I dont think it would be worth fiddling to get the hardware accel and risk having the system blow up again. I did read about a patch made to allow the system to realize that it is an AGP card since it is showing PCI in the system profiler. Also, since I am fairly new to macs, what is the best way to back up all this so that I can revert as easily as possible.