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Hi everyone,

I'm new to this forum, so I have a couple questions ...I guess like every newbie!

 

So here's the thing:

 

I want to get myself a Macbook Pro someday, but right now I don't have enough cash to buy it AND I still have my Dell notebook who's still running - it's his 2nd birthday in a few days :-)

 

Drum roll please...

 

I wanna put OSX on it but I don't really know if it is possible.

 

Tada! Big guess, heh!

 

I would like to know if by posting my detailed configuration, you guys could tell me if I can do it.

 

So, using Everest, here it is:

 

--------[ EVEREST Ultimate Edition ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Version										   EVEREST v5.50.2100
Benchmark Module								  2.5.292.0
Homepage										  http://www.lavalys.com/
Report Type									   Report Wizard [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Computer										  IASSON-PC
Generator										 Iasson
Operating System								  Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 6.1.7600 (Win7 RTM)
Date											  2010-10-19
Time											  21:00


--------[ Summary ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Computer:
  Computer Type									 PC avec processeur x86 ACPI  (Mobile)
  Operating System								  Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
  OS Service Pack								   [ TRIAL VERSION ]
  Internet Explorer								 8.0.7600.16385
  DirectX										   DirectX 11.0
  Computer Name									 IASSON-PC
  User Name										 Iasson
  Logon Domain									  [ TRIAL VERSION ]
  Date / Time									   2010-10-19 / 21:00

Motherboard:
  CPU Type										  Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T8100, 2100 MHz (10.5 x 200)
  Motherboard Name								  Dell Vostro 1310
  Motherboard Chipset							   Intel Crestline-PM PM965
  System Memory									 [ TRIAL VERSION ]
  DIMM1: Hynix HYMP125S64CP8-S6					 2 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM  (6-6-6-18 @ 400 MHz)  (5-5-5-15 @ 333 MHz)  (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz)
  DIMM3: Samsung M4 70T2864QZ3-CF7				  [ TRIAL VERSION ]
  BIOS Type										 Phoenix (10/09/08)
  Communication Port								RIM Virtual Serial Port v2 (COM3)
  Communication Port								RIM Virtual Serial Port v2 (COM4)

Display:
  Video Adapter									 NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS  (128 MB)
  Video Adapter									 NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS  (128 MB)
  3D Accelerator									nVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
  Monitor										   LG Philips LP133WX1  [13.3" LCD]

Multimedia:
  Audio Adapter									 Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801HBM ICH8M - High Definition Audio Controller

Storage:
  IDE Controller									Intel(R) ICH8M Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 2850
  IDE Controller									Intel(R) ICH8M-E/M SATA AHCI Controller
  Storage Controller								A4LI16TI IDE Controller
  Storage Controller								O2Micro Integrated MMC/SD controller
  Storage Controller								O2Micro Integrated MS/xD Controller
  Disk Drive										ST9320320AS  (320 GB, 5400 RPM, SATA-II)
  Optical Drive									 HOLIB V8X6RWTU SCSI CdRom Device
  Optical Drive									 Optiarc DVD+-RW AD-7640A ATA Device  (DVD+R9:6x, DVD-R9:6x, DVD+RW:8x/8x, DVD-RW:8x/6x, DVD-RAM:5x, DVD-ROM:8x, CD:24x/24x/24x DVD+RW/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM)
  SMART Hard Disks Status						   OK

Partitions:
  C: (NTFS)										 [ TRIAL VERSION ]
  D: (NTFS)										 10238 MB (8016 MB free)
  E: (NTFS)										 170.8 GB (14.5 GB free)
  Total Size										[ TRIAL VERSION ]

Input:
  Keyboard										  Clavier standard PS/2
  Mouse											 Dell Touchpad
  Mouse											 Souris HID

Network:
  Primary IP Address								[ TRIAL VERSION ]
  Primary MAC Address							   00-21-5C-8B-C3-AF
  Network Adapter								   Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN  (192. [ TRIAL VERSION ])
  Network Adapter								   Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
  Modem											 Modem standard

Peripherals:
  Printer										   \\ACER\Brother HL-5240 series
  Printer										   Adobe PDF
  Printer										   Fax
  Printer										   Microsoft XPS Document Writer
  Printer										   PDF-XChange 3.0
  FireWire Controller							   O2Micro OHCI Compliant IEEE1394 Host Controller
  USB1 Controller								   Intel 82801HBM ICH8M - USB Universal Host Controller
  USB1 Controller								   Intel 82801HBM ICH8M - USB Universal Host Controller
  USB1 Controller								   Intel 82801HBM ICH8M - USB Universal Host Controller
  USB1 Controller								   Intel 82801HBM ICH8M - USB Universal Host Controller
  USB1 Controller								   Intel 82801HBM ICH8M - USB Universal Host Controller
  USB2 Controller								   Intel 82801HBM ICH8M - USB2 Enhanced Host Controller
  USB2 Controller								   Intel 82801HBM ICH8M - USB2 Enhanced Host Controller
  USB Device										E-MU 0404 | USB
  USB Device										Laptop Integrated Webcam
  USB Device										Périphérique d’entrée USB
  USB Device										Périphérique USB composite
  USB Device										Périphérique USB composite
  USB Device										TouchChip Fingerprint Coprocessor
  Battery										   Adaptateur secteur Microsoft
  Battery										   Batterie à méthode de contrôle compatible ACPI Microsoft
  Battery										   Batterie composite Microsoft

DMI:
  DMI BIOS Vendor								   Dell Inc.
  DMI BIOS Version								  A13
  DMI System Manufacturer						   Dell Inc.
  DMI System Product								Vostro1310
  DMI System Version								Null
  DMI System Serial Number						  [ TRIAL VERSION ]
  DMI Motherboard Manufacturer					  Dell Inc.
  DMI Motherboard Product						   0G930C
  DMI Motherboard Version						   
  DMI Motherboard Serial Number					 [ TRIAL VERSION ]
  DMI Chassis Manufacturer						  Dell Inc.
  DMI Chassis Version							   N/A
  DMI Chassis Serial Number						 [ TRIAL VERSION ]
  DMI Chassis Asset Tag							 [ TRIAL VERSION ]
  DMI Chassis Type								  Portable

 

Thanks a lot, and let me know !

 

TMG

 

P.S. > I'm sorry about my English, I'm from France :-)

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Leo4ALL v3 - distro (dvd disk name) name that was used to install OS X

10.5.2 - OS X version. Leopard in this case

GUID - the partition scheme used to partition OS X target disk

EFI V8 - an outdated boot loader. Currently I suggest using Chameleon

default Kernel (Version?) - any comments needed? It might mean the vanilla kernel or the default kernel for this particular disk (I don't know which kernel is used in the disk)

 

Bother to use the forum search, please.

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Thanks a lot for your really quick answers. One more thing than I promise I won't bother you anymore - and use the forum search ;)

 

10.5.2 - OS X version. Leopard in this case

 

Does it mean I can only install 10.5.2 or I can try with the 10.6.4 ?

And if I can, I guess this is a good tutorial: http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/2010/04/ibo...ac-os-x-on.html, right ?

 

Thanks for your time.

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Does it mean I can only install 10.5.2 or I can try with the 10.6.4 ?
The hardware specification tells that Snow Leopard should work perfectly well. So you can try installing both Leopard (10.5.x) or Snow leopard (10.6.x). There is a slight difference in the procedure for both OSs.

 

I guess this is a good tutorial:
I can not guaranty that for 100%. I'd say it is good for reading in order to understand what it takes to install OS X on a PC and how that works. It probably be batter to search for some notebook specific guides, as there could be some specific issues to face.

Like this (read it more like general info then like a Guide), or this (pretty old though but may be useful to get idea what are alternative methods) and so on...

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Alright, I bought Snow Leopard and the PC is getting prepared for it's evolution.

 

And there's that silly question that popped out in my mind:

What's gonna happen with the keyboard ? Mac keyboard are slightly different, I wonder what will be the end result... Will it be the same keys or will i have to put a sticker on each key to relabel it ?

 

(Don't know if my question is clear though...)

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For the most part it will be the same keyboard. The keys that might differ are:

Control (CTRL), Alt, Windows Logo.

Insert key will not work. Fn key might not work. Multimedia keys (if present) might also not work.

 

Other keys should work as is. For the Ctrl, Alt, Win key you might reassign them using a build-in keyboard preferences. Also note that in order for the build-in keyboard and touchpad to work, you need to use a PS/2 driver, as OS X doesn't support PS/2 devices by default. The driver should be present on the boot disk (the disk you will use to boot the retail SL DVD).

 

Alternatively you may use an USB keyboard&mouse.

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For the most part it will be the same keyboard. The keys that might differ are:

Control (CTRL), Alt, Windows Logo.

Insert key will not work. Fn key might not work. Multimedia keys (if present) might also not work.

 

Other keys should work as is. For the Ctrl, Alt, Win key you might reassign them using a build-in keyboard preferences. Also note that in order for the build-in keyboard and touchpad to work, you need to use a PS/2 driver, as OS X doesn't support PS/2 devices by default. The driver should be present on the boot disk (the disk you will use to boot the retail SL DVD).

 

Alternatively you may use an USB keyboard&mouse.

I got an USB mouse already, I'll check if [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] has the keyboard drivers.

 

But you may have problems with your wifi card, there isnt drivers for them

Oh that sounds really bad since I'm using wifi everyday... Any workaround ?

I've heard they were in development.

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Can you explain the swapping part please ?

(I'd prefer not having to use an external usb stick)

IMHO he meant to buy another (compatible) Wi-Fi card.

 

There could be a pitfall in the BIOS. I don't know if it applies to Dell, but HP for instance have a list of supported cards build in to BIOS so you could only use the card that HP sells instead of any you like. Sure it could be "cured". So check if the above applies to the model you have.

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IMHO he meant to buy another (compatible) Wi-Fi card.

 

There could be a pitfall in the BIOS. I don't know if it applies to Dell, but HP for instance have a list of supported cards build in to BIOS so you could only use the card that HP sells instead of any you like. Sure it could be "cured". So check if the above applies to the model you have.

Let me see if I get it right; I will have to open my laptop and replace its wifi card by another mac os compatible one, but there could be a limitation in the BIOS so you can only install some models and not others.

 

So, a couple questions on that:

 

a) how do I check if there is such limitation ? (and how do I know which models will be accepted by the BIOS ?)

:( where can I find such card ? (I mean it's not like you can run to your typical hardware store and ask for it as if it was just an USB wifi stick, right ?)

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Let me see if I get it right; I will have to open my laptop and replace its wifi card by another mac os compatible one...
Exactly! Usually it is a Mini PCI-Express Wi-Fi card. It also can be half-size Mini PCI-Express card. Depends on the notebook model.

...but there could be a limitation in the BIOS so you can only install some models and not others.
Exactly!It COULD BE, but not necessary it is. A quick Google search tells nothing about such limitations on the notebook you have. So any card should work. But you should do a proper search before you buy anything.
where can I find such card
Any big computer hardware store should have them. It is not something very rear. Also you can look on Ebay for a used one. Used are usually cheaper but functions as new.

 

P.S. http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php...amp;mode=linear list of snow compatible cards.

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Exactly! Usually it is a Mini PCI-Express Wi-Fi card. It also can be half-size Mini PCI-Express card. Depends on the notebook model.

Exactly!It COULD BE, but not necessary it is. A quick Google search tells nothing about such limitations on the notebook you have. So any card should work. But you should do a proper search before you buy anything.

Any big computer hardware store should have them. It is not something very rear. Also you can look on Ebay for a used one. Used are usually cheaper but functions as new.

 

P.S. http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php...amp;mode=linear list of snow compatible cards.

Alright, great, we're getting to something :-)

 

So basically, I should order that card: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BroadCom-BCM94321MC-...2a07c00584#shId

 

And follow this manual to replace the older one with it: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/syst...ml/minicard.htm

 

Then I should be good to go for Snow Leopard.

 

Am I right ?

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...Am I right ?
Yes, like that. You can also check your local Ebay site http://www.ebay.fr/ (if I understood correctly your location - sorry if not). It should be faster and cheaper buying it locally (on the local Ebay site).

 

You can install SL without having a compatible Wi-Fi card. Install goes fine without it, as long as you have wired internet (LAN) working. Wi-Fi card can be replaced any time later.

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Yes, like that. You can also check your local Ebay site http://www.ebay.fr/ (if I understood correctly your location - sorry if not). It should be faster and cheaper buying it locally (on the local Ebay site).

 

You can install SL without having a compatible Wi-Fi card. Install goes fine without it, as long as you have wired internet (LAN) working. Wi-Fi card can be replaced any time later.

I strictly use wifi, so i'll have to wait for the card to be shipped to my place.

(I order it today, Ihope it doesn't take too long from the US to France)

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