XtreX Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 I'd be really thankful if someone with some knowledge about kexts could explain why some kexts only work in /S/L/E/ and not if loaded by a bootloader e.g. from an EFI Partition. It shouldn't be about dependencies because they should all be satisfied as soon as the system loads the rest of the kext from the system drive or am I wrong about this? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
XtreX Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 Has this question been asked a million times before? Then at least tell me that... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1255941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob766 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Has this question been asked a million times before? Then at least tell me that... well....... sadly the osx86 community has fallen pretty hard, edit- funny while i was typing this i noticed taruga is looking at this topic. the kexts have dependencies that are needed to load them, and the boot on root string will cause them to boot before their dependencies and therefore not work. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1255943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XtreX Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 well....... sadly the osx86 community has fallen pretty hard,edit- funny while i was typing this i noticed taruga is looking at this topic. the kexts have dependencies that are needed to load them, and the boot on root string will cause them to boot before their dependencies and therefore not work. Thx for the answer! So one had to put all the dependencies on the efi partition too? Would that work? I'd really like the idea of having an untouched system partition without any added or modified kexts, plists et cetera... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1255952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob766 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Thx for the answer! So one had to put all the dependencies on the efi partition too? Would that work? I'd really like the idea of having an untouched system partition without any added or modified kexts, plists et cetera... It will work until apple releases an update of the kexts, then it will cause a problem Taruga should know about this and the OSvKernlib.kext lol Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1255954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XtreX Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 It will work until apple releases an update of the kexts, then it will cause a problem Hmm , that's not exactly the idea of the whole efi partition thing... Is this just with some SL kexts, or was this problem already there with leopard? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1255959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob766 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Hmm , that's not exactly the idea of the whole efi partition thing... Is this just with some SL kexts, or was this problem already there with leopard? leopard. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1255964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorcho Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 It's good to minimize hackintosh stuff in S/L/E, but keeping a 'virgin' partition? That adds so little to the setup. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1255976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob766 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 It's good to minimize hackintosh stuff in S/L/E, but keeping a 'virgin' partition? That adds so little to the setup. the goal is not to have to replace any retail kexts with you own, but have them load over from extra/extensions/ so that system updates don't crash. any third party kexts should have no issues being loaded in S/L/E Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1255990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XtreX Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 leopard. Well then... I'll get used to it. Thanks for clearing that up. the goal is not to have to replace any retail kexts with you own, but have them load over from extra/extensions/so that system updates don't crash. any third party kexts should have no issues being loaded in S/L/E Thanks again. Thats what I thougth. I just have skge and VoodooHDA in S/L/E so I should be fine with any upcoming updates... What about fakesmc. Is it update-proof? I remember having read something in netkas' blog that dsmos will have to be updated as soon as 10.6.1 is out to work with it... Is this also the case with fakesmc? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1255992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormegil Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 create your mkext in single user mode -s: kextcache -v 1 -t -l -m /Extra/Extensions.mkext /Extra/Extensions /System/Library/Extensions This way all your dependencies will be included. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1257183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poofyhairguy Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Well then... I'll get used to it. Thanks for clearing that up. Thanks again. Thats what I thougth. I just have skge and VoodooHDA in S/L/E so I should be fine with any upcoming updates... What about fakesmc. Is it update-proof? I remember having read something in netkas' blog that dsmos will have to be updated as soon as 10.6.1 is out to work with it... Is this also the case with fakesmc? If you have been hackintoshing for a while, then you know by now that us hackintoshers will never get to some magic point where we can just put together a system that is guaranteed update proof. On my Leopard system I used a Boot123 USB drive that got me through a few point revisions, but even it failed my by 10.5.8. Apple will always throw us some loop that makes upgrading hard without a patch, or a new dsdt, or a new dsmos, or a new bootloader. Personally I never upgrade until I look here on the forum and see what breaks..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1257271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_webi Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I'd be really thankful if someone with some knowledge about kexts could explain why some kexts only work in /S/L/E/ and not if loaded by a bootloader e.g. from an EFI Partition. It shouldn't be about dependencies because they should all be satisfied as soon as the system loads the rest of the kext from the system drive or am I wrong about this? use Kext Utility ... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1257320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacProUser83 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Here is a little script I made to create my mkext for both i386 and x86_64. Edit it to fit your /E/E location. I'll be modifying it to make it more automatic this is just a quick draft. mkextcreatorV0.2.sh.zip mkextcreator.sh.zip Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1257457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodom Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Here is a little script I made to create my mkext for both i386 and x86_64. Edit it to fit your /E/E location. I'll be modifying it to make it more automatic this is just a quick draft. mkextcreatorV0.2.sh.zip mkextcreator.sh.zip Good Attempt but this will still not work for Raid Helper Partitions Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/184793-why-do-some-kexts-only-work-in-sle/#findComment-1258136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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