aust68 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Hello all, I'm planning on building a PC, and I'm trying to make it as compatible as possible with OSx86, and also just trying to get everthing compatible together itself. I've never selected and put together my own computer, and before I get to ordering it, I'd like to know how compatible everything is together, and how compatible it will be with OSx86, and anything that anyone can suggest is better to get, add, or replace with what I already have. I've selected everything off of Vibe Computers. Here's what I have so far: MoBo: http://www.vibecomputers.com/index.cfm?loc...if=n&vID=203106 CPU: http://www.vibecomputers.com/index.cfm?loc...if=n&vID=478861 RAM: http://www.vibecomputers.com/index.cfm?loc...if=n&vID=458663 HDD: http://www.vibecomputers.com/index.cfm?loc...if=n&vID=356672 Case: http://www.vibecomputers.com/index.cfm?loc...if=n&vID=202991 I already have a DVD drive, so I'm alright in that area, and I currently a 160GB IDE drive that I'm wondering will be compatible with OSx86 on this set up. I'm trying to keep it relatively cheap, as I don't have all that much to spend. Also, I'm in Canada, so NewEgg isn't an option. Any help is greatly appreciated. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust68 Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 Can anyone please help me out here, I could really use it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-116368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
u1m2 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 That is a 945P chipset motherboard and currently you haven't got graphics... The processor is fine but you should consider a 920 as it is not that much more expensive, runs cooler and has twice the cache. PC5300 memory shouldn't be all that much expensive if you buy ValueRam from Kingston as well... So here is my advice 1- Buy the p5ld2-vm as it has o/b graphics compatible with OSX : GMA950 sucks but works 2- Better RAM, DDR2-667 3- 920 instead of 805 if you can afford it Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-116416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust68 Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 I swapped the MoBo, RAM, and added a case to it. I'm going to stay with the 805, for now at least. Also, will the 350W PSU be sufficient for this set up? Thanks for the help so far too. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-116501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I swapped the MoBo, RAM, and added a case to it. I'm going to stay with the 805, for now at least. Also, will the 350W PSU be sufficient for this set up? Thanks for the help so far too. According to tests, if you oc the 805, you want over 500W PSU. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-116503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
u1m2 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 exactly, the 805@anything above 3.5 GHz should draw more than 150W alone... Tomshardware's 805@4.1 consumed more than 200W which screams for decent watercooling... They're just plain stupid for saying 4.1 for 125$ which is a lie considering you should be paying around 200$ for decent watercooling anyway, they just happen to have one but what about regular users? Does anyone just happen to have a watercooling setup lying around, sure not. Just buy the 920 for 190$ and oc it to 3.7+ with stock cooling and voltage as these 65nm parts are much superior to 90nm parts concerning performance/watt ratios. Where I live there's around 60-70$ difference between the prices of the two processors maybe it's different in other parts of the globe So it's up to you, 805 is still a much better choice than Intel's single core Pentium or Celeron lineup for that matter. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-116576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust68 Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 What about the 930 at 3GHz, it is also 65nm, and is also a bit cheaper, I'm not seeing why though. I'll probably be going for the 920 now, as I don't really want to dish out the extra for the PSU and liquidcooling if I were to overclock the 805, but I would like to know the difference between the 920 and the 930. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-116631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
u1m2 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Be careful not to get a B1 stepping on those 9xx CPUs. They seem to have a problem with Speed-Step not functioning. C1 to be absolutely sure... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-116939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust68 Posted May 22, 2006 Author Share Posted May 22, 2006 How would I know if the CPU uses B1 or C1, when I don't see it mentioned anywheres on the site, or even on the Intel Specs site? Sorry if this should be obvious, but I don't see anything. Thanks so far too. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-117385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanschien Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 The only sure way is if you buy it from your local retailer. All new boxes have a window that shows the top of the actual processor. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-117391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
u1m2 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 maybe you should e-mail the online retailer and ask which stepping(s) they have and if you could get one with a c1 stepping? in germany most decent online retailers for enthusiasts show the code of the cpu and sometimes they charge 1-2€s more for a better patch but then you know you get the better patch (better ocing, cooler etc...). Local dealer is the guaranteed way. btw the prices on that site is CAD right? Also for a good price/performance ratio a 400W Antec should do fine for case+psu... Sonata 450W perhaps? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-117640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust68 Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 Yes, the prices are in CAD, and I don't think I'll be too worried if I have B1 or C1 stepping, I'll try for the C1, but if I can't, it won't bother me. Thanks for everything though. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-118480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust68 Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 In the HCL for 10.4.5 it says that the ITE IDE controller isn't supported in OS X for the Asus P5LD2-VM, but would I be able to use and IDE HDD for Windows, and SATA for OS X? Or is there another MotherBoard that would be preferably chosen that is fully supported and uses an LGA775 socket? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-119641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpsolares Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 If i remeber get asus 975 chipset(the best one), DDr2-800, ati x1600 then get new fan and kits for cooling then overclocking to 4.1Ghz stable more tweaks u can get 4.3Ghz with Pentium d 805 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-119749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust68 Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 I'm going for the Intel GMA 950 onboard graphics, so I don't have to buy a GPU, and I'm not up for even bothering with buying everything extra to overclock the 805. EDIT: Is there a good Intel board that is reccommended, that is working 100% with no, or a few patches? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-119756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpsolares Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 I'm going for the Intel GMA 950 onboard graphics, so I don't have to buy a GPU, and I'm not up for even bothering with buying everything extra to overclock the 805. EDIT: Is there a good Intel board that is reccommended, that is working 100% with no, or a few patches? the 975 gos flawless and for the cooling is like $30.00 per all Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-119798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo50 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 the Intel D945GNTL is a perfect mobo for osx box. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-119886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
u1m2 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 the HCL says 945GNTL has some tweaking to do involving sigmatel audio and o/b lan, can you confirm this mobo is a safe bet in getting almost everything working? sound, lan, fw etc... thx Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-120064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust68 Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 I'm looking at the D945GNTLKR, which says everything supported on 10.4.5 except sound, and I'm guessing the patches for the other D945GNTs will work on this board. I'm thinking either this board, or the Asus P5LD2-VM. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-120155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust68 Posted May 28, 2006 Author Share Posted May 28, 2006 Ok, this should be my final two questions for this thread: 1. I'm wondering if the 350W PSU will be sufficient to run this set up, not a reccomendation for a case/psu, just need to know if it will be sufficient, and I likely won't be doing any overclocking. 2. Is it possible to use both a HDD, and an Optical Drive on the same PATA connector, or no, because I need to know how big of a SATA drive to get if I cannot do this, as I currently have a 160GB IDE that I would like to get some more use out of. Thanks for all the help. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-120815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust68 Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 Anyone? Sorry for all the double posts by the way, but I really need to know this. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-121558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpsolares Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Ok, this should be my final two questions for this thread: 1. I'm wondering if the 350W PSU will be sufficient to run this set up, not a reccomendation for a case/psu, just need to know if it will be sufficient, and I likely won't be doing any overclocking. 2. Is it possible to use both a HDD, and an Optical Drive on the same PATA connector, or no, because I need to know how big of a SATA drive to get if I cannot do this, as I currently have a 160GB IDE that I would like to get some more use out of. Thanks for all the help. 1. for overcloking says is ok the 500w, if not with the 350w. 2. U have to try and let us know .. Good luck Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-121894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust68 Posted May 30, 2006 Author Share Posted May 30, 2006 Well, I tried it out, by removing my slave optical drive and replacing it with my slave hard drive, and plugged everything back in, booted up, and I couldn't get past BIOS, or get into BIOS settings, so I rechecked everything to make sure it was hooked up properly, and tried again, same result. So just to make absolute sure, I called up Maxtor, and they said, no it would not be possible to do. So I guess question answered. Thanks by the way for the PSU information. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17881-how-compatable-is-this-set-up/#findComment-122074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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