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hé Sam,

 

well unfortunatly the Jas version seems to be dead,

not may people sharing this version.

 

The version that i currently own is 10.4.6.

But its only 3.33 gig, people say this version works.

Would like to know if this is going to be as good as the jass version.

Cause i want to get the max out of tiger.

 

About my motherboard,

i have made a Sandra anaysis for you

 

here it is:

 

SiSoftware Sandra

 

System

Manufacturer : MEDIONPC

Model : MS-7091

ID : B2B6BA30-11B21E3E-45640080-73694E6E

 

Mainboard

Manufacturer : MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD

MP Support : 1 Processor(s)

MPS Version : 1.40

Model : MS-7091

System BIOS : 01/27/2005-Grantsdale-6A79DM4IC-00

Chipset : Intel 915G/GV (Grantsdale)

 

System Memory Controller

Location : Mainboard

Error Correction Capability : None

Number of Memory Slots : 4

Maximum Installable Memory : 4GB

Bank0/1 - A0 : Empty

Bank2/3 - A1 : Empty

Bank4/5 - A2 : Empty

Bank6/7 - A3 : Empty

 

Chipset 1

Model : Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/GL/P/PL/GL Grantsdale Host Bridge/DRAM Controller

Bus(es) : ISA PCI PCIe IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus

Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz data rate)

Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 4x 200MHz / 2x 266MHz

Width : 64-bit

HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes

IO Queue Depth : 12 request(s)

 

Chipset 1 Hub Interface

Type : DMI

Version : 1.00

Number of Ports : 4

In/Out Width : 4-bit / 4-bit

Multiplier : 3/1x

 

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks

Bank 0 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 3.0-3-3-8 1CMD

Bank 1 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 3.0-3-3-8 1CMD

Bank 4 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 3.0-3-3-8 1CMD

Bank 5 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 3.0-3-3-8 1CMD

Channels : 2

Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)

Multiplier : 1/1x

Width : 64-bit

Memory Controller in Processor : No

Performance Acceleration Technology : No

Refresh Rate : 7.80µs

Power Save Mode : No

Fixed Hole Present : No

 

APIC 1

Version : 2.00

Multiplier : 1/2x

Maximum Interrupts : 24

IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes

Enhanced Support : Yes

 

Memory Module 1

Model : SDU06464H1B72MT-50

Serial Number : FF98A000

Type : 512MB DDR-SDRAM

Technology : 16x(32Mx8)

Speed : PC3200U 3.0-3-3-8

Version : 1.1

Date of Manufacture : zaterdag 19 februari 2005

Set Timing @ 200MHz : 3.0-3-3-8

Set Timing @ 167MHz : 2.5-3-3-7

Set Timing @ 133MHz : 2.0-2-2-5

 

Memory Module 2

Model : SDU06464H1B72MT-50

Serial Number : 96000000

Type : 512MB DDR-SDRAM

Technology : 16x(32Mx8)

Speed : PC3200U 3.0-3-3-8

Version : 1.1

Date of Manufacture : woensdag 14 november 2159

Set Timing @ 200MHz : 3.0-3-3-8

Set Timing @ 167MHz : 2.5-3-3-7

Set Timing @ 133MHz : 2.0-2-2-5

 

Environment Monitor 1

Model : Winbond W83627(T)HF ISA

Version : 8.00

Mainboard Specific Support : No

 

Temperature Sensor(s)

Board Temperature : 45.0°C / 113.0°F

CPU Temperature : 64.5°C / 148.1°F td

 

Cooling Device(s)

Auto Fan Speed Control : No

CPU Fan Speed : 2109rpm

 

Voltage Sensor(s)

CPU Voltage : 1.92V

Aux Voltage : 3.10V

+3.3V Voltage : 3.31V

+5V Voltage : 5.05V

+12V Voltage : 11.25V

-12V Voltage : -14.91V

-5V Voltage : -7.71V

Standby Voltage : 4.48V

Battery Voltage : 3.17V

 

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1

Version : 2.30

Number of Bridges : 3

PCI Bus 0 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)

PCI Bus 1 : PCIe (3/1x PCIClk)

PCI Bus 2 : PCIe (3/1x PCIClk)

PCI Bus 3 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)

Number of PCIe Lanes : 17

 

LPC Hub Controller 1

Model : Intel Corporation 82801FB/FR ICH6/ICH6R LPC Interface Bridge

ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes

Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : Yes

Delayed Transaction Enabled : Yes

 

LPC Hub Controller 2

Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) 82801FB ICH6 SMBus Controller

 

USB Controller 1

Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) 82801FB ICH6 USB UHCI Controller 1

Version : 1.10

Interface : UHCI

Channels : 2

Speed : 48MHz

Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)

Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

 

USB Controller 2

Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) 82801FB ICH6 USB UHCI Controller 2

Version : 1.10

Interface : UHCI

Channels : 2

Speed : 48MHz

Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)

Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

 

USB Controller 3

Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) 82801FB ICH6 USB UHCI Controller 3

Version : 1.10

Interface : UHCI

Channels : 2

Speed : 48MHz

Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)

Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

 

USB Controller 4

Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) 82801FB ICH6 USB UHCI Controller 4

Version : 1.10

Interface : UHCI

Channels : 2

Speed : 48MHz

Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)

Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

 

USB Controller 5

Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) 82801FB ICH6 USB 2.0 EHCI Controller

Version : 2.00

Specification : 1.00

Interface : EHCI

Channels : 8

Companion Controllers : 4

Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)

Addressing Support : 64-bit

Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

 

FireWire/1394 Controller 1

Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) VT6306 VIA Fire II IEEE-1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller

Version : 1.10

Interface : OHCI

Enhanced Support : No

Channels : 64

Speed : 400MHz

 

System SMBus Controller 1

Model : Intel 801xx/63xx SMBus

Version : 0.03

Specification : 2.00

Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : Yes

Slave Device Enabled : Yes

PEC Support : Yes

Speed : 100kHz

 

Expansion Slot(s)

PCI0 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available (Intel Corporation 82915G/P/PL Grantsdale Host-PCI Express Graphics Bridge)

PCI1 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used

PCI2 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available

 

Port Connector(s)

PRIMARY IDE : None - ATA / None

SECONDARY IDE : None - ATA / None

FDD : 8251 FIFO - Floppy Disk / None

COM1 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male

COM2 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male

LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female

Keyboard : Keyboard - PS/2 / PS/2

PS/2 Mouse : Mouse - PS/2 / PS/2

USB0 : USB - None / None

USB1 : USB - None / None

 

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Hope this is usefull to you !

 

look forward hearing from you,

 

Greets

 

Madcoaster

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Hello Madcoaster!

 

 

I found this thread today, and i also have a SS3 Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz. I have a 4.6 OSX version and i'm currently downloading the Jas version. If you are interested in getting one too, you are welcome to contact me.

 

If you make some progress with your install of OS X, don't forget to write in this thread. I am also very eager to get Mac working on my laptop : )

 

Oh btw, i think my Motherboard chipset is Intel Grantsdale i915P.

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i have checked out the 3.33gig image, and many people report that it worked for them.

Alright

Now just download Daemon Tool and install it , so that u get an image loader for ur install dvd of mac 10.4.6.

Extract the rar file to obtain an image. This is the install image.

Here first we will try to install Mac OS X not on the physical partition, but in a file on any of ur existing Windows Partition.

Check whether u have an NTFS partition or not.

If yes then w'll move ahead in the install,

otherwise u'll have to make one.

 

Now Get VMWare. This software will help install OS, but will not wipe out ur Windows installation.

This VMWare can be used in both the ways to install mac os x.

Either in virtual mode(on a file and booting from windows installed, by creating a new virtual machine) or in

Native mode(on a physical partition, so that u can boot into mac os x, without getting into Windows OS) CAUTION:: USE THIS MODE ONLY IF U HAVE ANOTHER HARD DISK DRIVE OR YOU DONT WANT TO KEEP UR EXISTING WINDOWS INSTALLATION.

IN THE LATTER CASE, U'LL NEED TO BURN A DVD OF THE MAC OS INSTALLATION AND NEED A DVD DRIVE TO BOOT INTO FROM THE DISC.

 

ASSUMING THAT U DONT WANT TO INSTALL NATIVELY AND NOT ON THE PHYSICAL PARTITION VIA VMWARE.

 

1. CREATE A CUSTOM PROFILE FOR A NEW VMWare MACHINE.

By selecting FreeBSD as the Operating System to be installed.

2. Now it will ask u to provide a location for storing the file(OS image into). Specify a location having filesystem as NTFS and having space around 4gig to 6 gig.

3. next it will ask u to provide memory. IF u have 1024MB then use--> 512MB

if u have 512MB then use --> 256MB.

4. Then start this virtual machine. this machine at this very instant is empty and we will need to install the OS.

5. When the virtual system boots press Esc key. This will display u the menu to select the boot device. here select the CD-ROM.

6. Now the install will start.

7. Now open Disk Utility from the top menu bar from Utilities.

8. Now Erase the partition specified with the help of Hierarchical(Journalled) profile.

9. Now click ok and get back to setup.

10. As ur profile of processor states that u have an Intel SSE3 processor select the appropriate patches i.e. DO NOT select AMD patches and also Intel SSE2 patches as these might corrupt ur installation .Only select the patches pertaining to ur Intel SSE3 processor. Even do not select the VIA ATA hack for nForce.

11 As ur motherboard is 915, it will have graphics as GMA900, dont forget to select an option pertaining to this. (This hold the eye candy).

12 Now go ahead with the install.

13. After install is complete then reboot into the mac os and not get again into install mode.

 

NOTE: U will not see any kind of eye candy on, it might be slow.

U will not have enough space. Even most of ur hardware will not work properly as VMWare uses generic profile for hardware.

 

If u want to get the max of the Mac OS. u will need to install it natively.

this will give u most out of it .

If u have a separate HDD, i suggest u that u follow the VMWare mode of installing on physical partition by selecting the whole of physical disk.

 

Some dual booting thread for a install over a single Hard Disk exist, but im not too sure that where r they.

 

IF U Still have any problem then feel free to ask questions.

 

Bye

happy Install.

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Well then, if i want to install Native, what do i do? I have a second harddrive.

 

Okay then, from here you have two options. There's the VMWare method and the native method. VMWare is really for if you don't have a DVD drive. I highly recommend the native method. If you're ready for the native all you have to do is put the install DVD in, boot off the DVD, and start the installer.

 

 

How about this? Does this really work, and if it does, why make such complicated guides and ways of installing?

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Hé Sam,

 

thanks for the detailed explanation.

i'm going to give it a go tonight.

 

Can i assume that my motherboard is going to be ok, sinds you said that would unleach all the power of mac?

And when i'm going for the native way, do you think it will support my ATI videocard cause the powermacs work wit Nvidea.

 

 

I can't tell you enough how i appreciate your help!

 

 

Greets

 

Madcoaster

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@penan: The Guide is not too complicated.

if u examine it carefully it is a good one if u check whether ur sure to install which way i.e. either native or virtual.

 

@Madacoster: Thanks for appreciation.

I personnaly wished that such kind of guide should exist, for a newbie like u.

U did not mentioned that u had an ATI card. As of now the Graphics Card from only ATI are supported. The DVD installer that u got probably includes drivers for ATI graphics or u can find a detailed description of Catallysto in the Driver section.

Since, as of now nVidia cards r not supported by apple, currently its a no-go.

But u cant predict the future when it comes to Apple.

Im not sure that whether apple will ship its PowerMacs with nVidia card.

and those with PowerPC, its good not to include them as they r not supported.

 

 

And once again thanks for apprecialtion. My Pleasure.

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I understand the guide, but you got me worried writing

 

"NOTE: U will not see any kind of eye candy on, it might be slow.

U will not have enough space. Even most of ur hardware will not work properly as VMWare uses generic profile for hardware."

 

 

That sounds like it's not a good way of installing then?

 

 

And you wrote Nvidia cards are not supported. A have a Nvidia card. Does this mean i need a earlier version than 10.4.6?

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Hé,

 

no problem Sam,

 

im just glad to have someone who is willing to help me.

And your guide is very clear and easy.

 

Just the way i want to start out, later on i will go further trying to make

every thing work on my new mac. :-)

 

But i have to admit that i am still a little bit sceptical, if Tiger is going to run like it woul run on a native Macintoch and if i wil get the same performance.

 

I guess we shall see !

 

just one thing i don't seem to understand is :

 

7. Now open Disk Utility from the top menu bar from Utilities.

8. Now Erase the partition specified with the help of Hierarchical(Journalled) profile.

9. Now click ok and get back to setup.

 

Greets

 

Madcoaster

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And you wrote Nvidia cards are not supported. A have a Nvidia card. Does this mean i need a earlier version than 10.4.6?

 

nVidia r initially not targetted by their macs by apple.

Going to previous versions of Mac OS will not help a bit.

As i too have nVidia Graphics card, some work is underway by some developers.

u can find more information on MacVidia Project

 

Its safe to install via vmware natively, bcoz ull not need physical disc, nor a dvd drive, u r safe from DVD errors. Installation will proceed smoothly and fast and u can safely hit cancel in the disk check mode.

Above all ur sure that ull not mess up with install and not wipe off ur complete hard disk. As ur in windows.

 

Eye Candy for nVidia till date----> Full screen video only with real one player or QuickTime both Universal and only one window

 

I am confused >_>

Which is the best way to install, if i want the best performance, I have Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz with Nvidia Geforce. And wich is the best version to use? Thanks.

 

If u have a second HDD, its a definite go for installing native on its first partition.

Make it around 20Gig, so that it provides u ample space for installing new softwares.

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Right, and were do i find such a guide? And what do i need to do to get it work with my Nvidia Geforce card?

Here u go

Go to macvidia website

 

MacVidia - Official Forums & User Talk > Macvidia NVDriver General Discussion > MacVidia Driver Board

Follow the guide by coolbits

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just one thing i don't seem to understand is :

 

7. Now open Disk Utility from the top menu bar from Utilities.

8. Now Erase the partition specified with the help of Hierarchical(Journalled) profile.

9. Now click ok and get back to setup.

 

Greets

 

Madcoaster

 

When u start install, some screen of text moves down and then u get into graphical mode of install.

this install will install mac on a partition that is native to it.

As Apple uses HFS+ file system, u should select a primary partition (in case of virtual install, select the HDD alocatiion on the left side). This step will create a partition for installing mac os x. This is just a partition manager of any other operating system.

In this case unless u create a partition to install mac os x, it will not show any to install, and then ull think what to do, hence follow the above step.

When u create & erase a partition click on the ---> red cross on the left at the top(sorry i forgot to mention instead of OK)

Hope this helps

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Native is real simple.

 

1. Boot off DVD

 

2. Use disk utility to format your second hard drive

 

3. Run the installer

 

 

So this will work for my Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz, 2 harddrive Nvidia Geforce computer? Just pop in the DVD and go? This sounds really weird considering it's something made by Apple. How do i get dual boot then, so i can choose OS when starting computer? And will it work when i have a Nvidia card?

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So this will work for my Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz, 2 harddrive Nvidia Geforce computer? Just pop in the DVD and go? This sounds really weird considering it's something made by Apple. How do i get dual boot then, so i can choose OS when starting computer? And will it work when i have a Nvidia card?

 

a chain0 file that u'll need its hardly 1K it is present somewhere in the install DVD, u'll need to copy this file in c: drive of windows and that u'll need to add entry in ur boot.ini file as

C:\chain0="Mac OS X"

 

where C: is drive where you have copied the chain0 file.

 

hé sam,

 

what do you mean by; there on with callysto?

As my native language is not english, sometimes its confusion.

 

do you mean that its not fully operational yet ?

 

greets

 

madcoaser

 

Callisto is a driver suite for Radeon Graphic cards.

just checkout the driver thread in the osx86project forums.

Basically u'll be able to install Mac OS X without any drivers,

u'll can load them later. Since i dont have an ATI card, i cant tell u much about it.

 

Hope This helps

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